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Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 21:49
by Mexi-Box
jamamb wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 21:47
Cent0089 wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 16:17 Is this better fight than against Lemieux or not?
i think there both mismatches

but id be slightly more interested in fielding, if simply to see a guy so much taller get chopped down by a much shorter guy, for some reason i tend to enjoy those :OhYes:
This term gets thrown around here too much. Ridiculous statement.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 21:54
by jamamb
lmao, lemieux could hardly win a round or even land a punch vs ggg or bjs , and canelo is better then both.

fielding just isnt near canelos level either. hes simply bigger.

im not talking ranking btw. sure, lem is a top 10 guy probably, its not like theyd be reaching down for some scrub, but as far as what happens in the ring, canelo will have it pretty much all his own way vs both these guys, so when im trying to decide who is the fight id rather see, 'competivness' isnt really a factor

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 01:01
by candyslim
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 16:22 At super middleweight?
The plan is an eventual showdown with Joshua ;-)

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 02:25
by DrDuke
Probably GGG-Charlo will happen next too. Those two were the most approachable options for Canelo. The winner will be very likely to challenge him. So are we expecting Canelo-GGG 3 somewhen about May 2019?

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 04:40
by candyslim
What is the fukcing point?
GGG cannot knock out Canelo.
He cannot get the decision in Vegas.
Golden Boy won't permit the fight to take place anywhere else.
What's the plan. Keep fighting golovkin until Canelo eventually gets a win on merit?
This could take a while.

Never mind I'm sure he can beat Fielding without a hint of controversy.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 07:01
by Perseus
candyslim wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 04:40 What is the fukcing point?
GGG cannot knock out Canelo.
He cannot get the decision in Vegas.
Golden Boy won't permit the fight to take place anywhere else.
What's the plan. Keep fighting golovkin until Canelo eventually gets a win on merit?
This could take a while.

Never mind I'm sure he can beat Fielding without a hint of controversy.
What's the point?
How about putting together a good fight?
We know when Canelo and GGG are in the ring together fans are getting treated to a high level, very entertaining fight.
A great fight with controversy is still a great fight.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 10:12
by candyslim
Call me old fashioned by I'm much more entertained if the result isn't a foregone conclusion.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 13:49
by SenorPipino
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 17:40
SenorPipino wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 17:33
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 17:29

Canelo’s pay needs PPV money. Not subscription money.

ESPN and Showtime have PPV platform.

Is ESPN's app any more lucrative than DAZN in terms of what it pays the fighters?

I still think some long-term DAZN negotiations have been made between Hearn and GBP.

Hearn agreed to sacrifice Fielding and his belt in exchange for future Canelo appearances.
I dint mean ESPN+ app. I meant they working on a PPV platform.
I hadn't heard about legit PPV for ESPN.

They tried it some years back with Margarito vs Cintron. Promises of more to come but it never materialized.

Be interesting to see if anyone ties up Canelo to a long term deal or he and GBP negotiate fight to fight.

Incidentally Canelo opens a 1-16 favorite over the Rock.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 16:07
by Mexi-Box
jamamb wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 21:54 lmao, lemieux could hardly win a round or even land a punch vs ggg or bjs , and canelo is better then both.

fielding just isnt near canelos level either. hes simply bigger.

im not talking ranking btw. sure, lem is a top 10 guy probably, its not like theyd be reaching down for some scrub, but as far as what happens in the ring, canelo will have it pretty much all his own way vs both these guys, so when im trying to decide who is the fight id rather see, 'competivness' isnt really a factor
When has he shown that? Majority had GGG winning both fights, and he's not set foot in the ring against BJS. Lemieux has the power to KO anyone and is ranked in the top 10. It's a great fight.

By the way, if it was such an easy fight, why did Canelo move up to fight a domestic-level guy like Fielding?

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 17:11
by boxing_rocks
Lemieux would be a riskier fight plus after getting Fielding's paper belt, Canelo will call himself a "3-division world champion". Two very good reasons to pick Rocky over David.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 20:17
by jamamb
lol canelo just beat a guy who totally clowned lemieux. lem barely landed a single punch vs ggg and bjs, and canelo is defensively better then ggg vs a great chin himself

just totally different levels, lem would get clowned

and lol, 'why is he moving up to ....'

um, okay bruh, he just beat a guy who utterly tooled and ko'd lemieux. why the f@ck would he be avoiding lem :lol:

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 20:24
by brilo33
boxing_rocks wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 17:11 Lemieux would be a riskier fight plus after getting Fielding's paper belt, Canelo will call himself a "3-division world champion". Two very good reasons to pick Rocky over David.
saul would batter lemieux like Kirkland , he is king of the middleweight with out a shadow ,

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 20:50
by lazboy
Canelo would ko Lemieux round 5 and completely dominant every other round.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 21:59
by adislav123
brilo33 wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 20:24
boxing_rocks wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 17:11 Lemieux would be a riskier fight plus after getting Fielding's paper belt, Canelo will call himself a "3-division world champion". Two very good reasons to pick Rocky over David.
saul would batter lemieux like Kirkland , he is king of the middleweight with out a shadow ,
"King of the middleweights"!? Did you miss out on his last 2 fights? Jacobs, Saunders, Charlo would beat him in a fairly judged fight, Derev, Sulecki & a few others would give him a tough fight, Lemieux would probably knock him out if he fights him like he fought GGG.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 22:00
by jamamb
ya, lol, the evidence is that lem would ko canelo :lol:

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 22:01
by adislav123
lazboy wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 20:50 Canelo would ko Lemieux round 5 and completely dominant every other round.
What leads you to that conclusion? He didn't manage to rattle ggg even once in 24 rounds!

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 22:03
by adislav123
jamamb wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 22:00 ya, lol, the evidence is that lem would ko canelo :lol:
😂🤣😂🤣😭😭😭🤧😂🤣😂

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 22:04
by Wascallywabby
Nobody has shook GGG so that point doesn't mean much. Not even Jacobs

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 22:38
by boxing_rocks
adislav123 wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 22:01
lazboy wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 20:50 Canelo would ko Lemieux round 5 and completely dominant every other round.
What leads you to that conclusion? He didn't manage to rattle ggg even once in 24 rounds!
Canelo doesn't have Golovkin's jab which was the main tool keeping Lemieux away. Canelo would be outboxing Lemieux, but with David, it can be just about one punch.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 23:10
by jamamb
lol canelo is plenty good defensively to avoid any lucky shot and his chin is excellent too

ggg is far more skilled then lemieux and he really struggled to land flush power shots in 2 fightss vs canelo, it was mainly jabs

lem got totally humilated in his 2 top level fights and didnt land a single notable punch, canelo is a far better fighter and would batter him. the idea that canelos avoiding him when canelo just beat ggg (who humiliated lem) is hilarious. even if you still cling to the idea that ggg beat canelo its obvious canelo is way better then lem

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 23:57
by caldo2025
Canelo’s a joke and so is the WBC and that Mexican cartel boss telling GGG he needs to fight Charlo in eliminator. Lol.

But he has no problem with Canelo fighting Rocky Dennis to make money off yet another Mexican holiday. Does anyone work in Mexico with all of these holidays? No wonder the country is a toilet bowl economy.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 03:27
by Mexi-Box
jamamb wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 23:10 lol canelo is plenty good defensively to avoid any lucky shot and his chin is excellent too

ggg is far more skilled then lemieux and he really struggled to land flush power shots in 2 fightss vs canelo, it was mainly jabs

lem got totally humilated in his 2 top level fights and didnt land a single notable punch, canelo is a far better fighter and would batter him. the idea that canelos avoiding him when canelo just beat ggg (who humiliated lem) is hilarious. even if you still cling to the idea that ggg beat canelo its obvious canelo is way better then lem
Canelo's chin is good but Lemieux is a bigger puncher than GGG. Canelo also doesn't have GGG's movement or piston-like jab.

GGG didn't struggle to land at all. He was outjabbing Canelo like he did Lemieux. It was quite a site to see, especially when people said GGG's only chance was to pressure and not box. GGG outfought Canelo in the first fight and outboxed Canelo in the second fight.

Your fanboying for Canelo is pretty awful by the way.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 03:43
by candyslim
Lemieux is a big hitter but it doesn't matter how hard you hit if you can't land. His power didn't bother BJS in the slightest because Lem couldn't get near him. BJS is probably more elusive than Canelo but Canelo is skilled enough that Lem's power advantage shouldn't be too much of a concern to him.

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 04:40
by jamamb
ggg is easier to hit then canelo and lem couldnt touch him, it would be a serious outclassing

Re: canelo vs rocky fielding

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 04:44
by Mexi-Box
jamamb wrote: 07 Oct 2018, 04:40 ggg is easier to hit then canelo and lem couldnt touch him, it would be a serious outclassing
Surprised you're saying that considering Canelo was having a tough time getting past that jab.