Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 07:14
Nopefightfan95 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 06:01 Dave will definitely do well out of boxing - he said that the Webb fight paid of his mortgage
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Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 07:16
I dont think theres anyway appleby got 100k for the commonwealth fight
Ive heard of ppl getting 6/8k for a commonwealth fight (at flyweight)
Ive heard of ppl getting 6/8k for a commonwealth fight (at flyweight)
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 07:17
Defo not.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 07:14Nopefightfan95 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 06:01 Dave will definitely do well out of boxing - he said that the Webb fight paid of his mortgage
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 08:10
This sort of post really fcks me off tbh. Did you actually bother to read the rest of the thread before you wrote something so stupid?fightfan95 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 06:01 Dave will definitely do well out of boxing - he said that the Webb fight paid of his mortgage, as I understand he doesn't gamble any longer and his sister is in control and helps him.
When he retires, I'm sure he will be a regular on Sky shows.
This was just a few posts before yours.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 08:47
hahahahaCrease wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 10:24 Allen wouldn't be a millionaire as of yet, but he's certainly on the way to becoming one, particularly if he keeps winning, staying popular and getting the nice purses in.
I'd say that he's on around 80-150k per fight... Isn't that the norm for the British level?
I remember Deeck Chisora was offered 250 grand to fight AJ when he was British Heavyweight Champion, but they always seem to pay over-the-odds for AJ's opponents.
I remember reading something that Matt Legg said (an early AJ opponent on the Froch/Groves II undercard... He said that he was able to "pay out" the rest of his mortgage with the money he was offered for the AJ bout.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 08:56
Technically Allen could be putting a deposit down on a second house theretobyh5 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 08:10This sort of post really fcks me off tbh. Did you actually bother to read the rest of the thread before you wrote something so stupid?fightfan95 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 06:01 Dave will definitely do well out of boxing - he said that the Webb fight paid of his mortgage, as I understand he doesn't gamble any longer and his sister is in control and helps him.
When he retires, I'm sure he will be a regular on Sky shows.
This was just a few posts before yours.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 14:49
The Appleby figure is correct.
Hayemaker paid it, when they where paying big money for everything.
They thought Appleby was going to be a superstar.
It was a British title fight.
Hayemaker paid it, when they where paying big money for everything.
They thought Appleby was going to be a superstar.
It was a British title fight.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 15:14
Allen's the first to admit he's boxed for peanuts before, the Ortiz fight being case in point but he says he's much wiser now and is baffled on how naïve he was in taking fights earlier in his career, he says Eddie offered him 100k I think it was to fight Kuzmin recently or less money for an easier fight and he ended up taking the easier option in Nebo
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 02:06
It was the main event on a setanta card, they were really pushing him so not to hard to believePredatorHayds wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 14:49 The Appleby figure is correct.
Hayemaker paid it, when they where paying big money for everything.
They thought Appleby was going to be a superstar.
It was a British title fight.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 04:18
Alright mate calm down. I did read the post and I actually follow Dave on twitter so I've seen that as well. I only posted it because I heard him talking about paying of his mortgage in a video. In future I won't post without evidence.tobyh5 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 08:10This sort of post really fcks me off tbh. Did you actually bother to read the rest of the thread before you wrote something so stupid?fightfan95 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 06:01 Dave will definitely do well out of boxing - he said that the Webb fight paid of his mortgage, as I understand he doesn't gamble any longer and his sister is in control and helps him.
When he retires, I'm sure he will be a regular on Sky shows.
This was just a few posts before yours.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 04:28
fightfan95 wrote: ↑17 Oct 2018, 04:18Alright mate calm down. I did read the post and I actually follow Dave on twitter so I've seen that as well. I only posted it because I heard him talking about paying of his mortgage in a video. In future I won't post without evidence.tobyh5 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 08:10This sort of post really fcks me off tbh. Did you actually bother to read the rest of the thread before you wrote something so stupid?fightfan95 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 06:01 Dave will definitely do well out of boxing - he said that the Webb fight paid of his mortgage, as I understand he doesn't gamble any longer and his sister is in control and helps him.
When he retires, I'm sure he will be a regular on Sky shows.
This was just a few posts before yours.
With seven quoted sources please
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 15:24
He was paid less than £10k to fight Ortiz apparently,emallini wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 08:47hahahahaCrease wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 10:24 Allen wouldn't be a millionaire as of yet, but he's certainly on the way to becoming one, particularly if he keeps winning, staying popular and getting the nice purses in.
I'd say that he's on around 80-150k per fight... Isn't that the norm for the British level?
I remember Deeck Chisora was offered 250 grand to fight AJ when he was British Heavyweight Champion, but they always seem to pay over-the-odds for AJ's opponents.
I remember reading something that Matt Legg said (an early AJ opponent on the Froch/Groves II undercard... He said that he was able to "pay out" the rest of his mortgage with the money he was offered for the AJ bout.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 15:37
I’m all for fighters earning well but Allen is already earning more money than some who have far more talent, ability and application.
He should be getting decent money but I’ve no idea how he manages to have the likes of even Lucas Browne discussing him as an opponent.
He should be getting decent money but I’ve no idea how he manages to have the likes of even Lucas Browne discussing him as an opponent.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 16:50
Browne just fought Julius Long and is now fighting some Samoan bloke called Junior Pati with a 12-22 record.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 15:37 I’m all for fighters earning well but Allen is already earning more money than some who have far more talent, ability and application.
He should be getting decent money but I’ve no idea how he manages to have the likes of even Lucas Browne discussing him as an opponent.
The only thing strange if Allen should be his opponent afterwards, would be that it's such a big step up for Browne.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 01:32
What I meant is, it’s strange to hear Browne, who has achieved a fair bit, calling out Dave Allen, who hasn’t really beaten anyone. His best result is a draw with Thomas, who Joyce destroyed 5 minutes in to his pro career!Gnome wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 16:50Browne just fought Julius Long and is now fighting some Samoan bloke called Junior Pati with a 12-22 record.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 15:37 I’m all for fighters earning well but Allen is already earning more money than some who have far more talent, ability and application.
He should be getting decent money but I’ve no idea how he manages to have the likes of even Lucas Browne discussing him as an opponent.
The only thing strange if Allen should be his opponent afterwards, would be that it's such a big step up for Browne.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 01:54
dave allen is probably an english level fighter in terms of where he can actually win. he does have a freak chin though and hence has given some rounds to even top 5 world ranked (or about that) fighters. he is defo punching way above his weight in terms of the promotional support he gets relative to his accomplishments and abiltiy.
maybe more fighters should study his approach/personality rather then going with the overdone BEEEEEEEEEEEEEF/sh!t talking angle
i guess going with 'beef' is just so easy though. any idiot can blab
maybe more fighters should study his approach/personality rather then going with the overdone BEEEEEEEEEEEEEF/sh!t talking angle
i guess going with 'beef' is just so easy though. any idiot can blab
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 03:45
Browne didn’t call him out.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 01:32What I meant is, it’s strange to hear Browne, who has achieved a fair bit, calling out Dave Allen, who hasn’t really beaten anyone. His best result is a draw with Thomas, who Joyce destroyed 5 minutes in to his pro career!Gnome wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 16:50Browne just fought Julius Long and is now fighting some Samoan bloke called Junior Pati with a 12-22 record.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 15:37 I’m all for fighters earning well but Allen is already earning more money than some who have far more talent, ability and application.
He should be getting decent money but I’ve no idea how he manages to have the likes of even Lucas Browne discussing him as an opponent.
The only thing strange if Allen should be his opponent afterwards, would be that it's such a big step up for Browne.
Dave Allen said ‘how about it?’ And Browne said ‘yeah okay mate’.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 07:13
Fair play to Allen - he is getting opportunities and publicity far beyond his talent.
I think he needs to reign it in though - he is starting to get a bit giddy.
The next time he faces somebody of English level or above he is getting beat.
When he realises that he isn't going to win a title he will cash in, he will end up losing his final 10 fights. The problem will be that he likes to have this macho image of being able to take a shot etc, which wont do him any favours.
I think he needs to reign it in though - he is starting to get a bit giddy.
The next time he faces somebody of English level or above he is getting beat.
When he realises that he isn't going to win a title he will cash in, he will end up losing his final 10 fights. The problem will be that he likes to have this macho image of being able to take a shot etc, which wont do him any favours.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 07:49
I would be surprised if he doesn't pick up a title belt of some description.bripez wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:13 Fair play to Allen - he is getting opportunities and publicity far beyond his talent.
I think he needs to reign it in though - he is starting to get a bit giddy.
The next time he faces somebody of English level or above he is getting beat.
When he realises that he isn't going to win a title he will cash in, he will end up losing his final 10 fights. The problem will be that he likes to have this macho image of being able to take a shot etc, which wont do him any favours.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 07:54
I tend to agree - he is after being gifted the Commonwealth title.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:49I would be surprised if he doesn't pick up a title belt of some description.bripez wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:13 Fair play to Allen - he is getting opportunities and publicity far beyond his talent.
I think he needs to reign it in though - he is starting to get a bit giddy.
The next time he faces somebody of English level or above he is getting beat.
When he realises that he isn't going to win a title he will cash in, he will end up losing his final 10 fights. The problem will be that he likes to have this macho image of being able to take a shot etc, which wont do him any favours.
He has become popular on Twitter, but I am not sure how that translates to ticket sales etc.?
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 08:53
His dad was a good fighter, although it is hard to connect father and son because the original Dave Allen was only a light-welterweight and a tense, bitter fellow who I once saw trounce Lloyd Christie at the National Sporting Club and who subsequently earned a two-page feature in Boxing News in which he bemoaned the lack of opportunities for fighters in the North.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 10:17
I said something similar on this thread or maybe another. He is a likeable enough young man but so far he has been ‘the opponent’ or a supporting act for a bigger show rather than someone who is shifting tickets. His last contest where ticket sales might have mattered was at Walsall Town Hall on the undercard of Langford v Welborn which I believe only holds 900 for boxing anyway.bripez wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:54I tend to agree - he is after being gifted the Commonwealth title.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:49I would be surprised if he doesn't pick up a title belt of some description.bripez wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:13 Fair play to Allen - he is getting opportunities and publicity far beyond his talent.
I think he needs to reign it in though - he is starting to get a bit giddy.
The next time he faces somebody of English level or above he is getting beat.
When he realises that he isn't going to win a title he will cash in, he will end up losing his final 10 fights. The problem will be that he likes to have this macho image of being able to take a shot etc, which wont do him any favours.
He has become popular on Twitter, but I am not sure how that translates to ticket sales etc.?
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 16:35
fornicate money Dave's the man.
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 17:43
He sold a good few for Brook-Spence.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 10:17I said something similar on this thread or maybe another. He is a likeable enough young man but so far he has been ‘the opponent’ or a supporting act for a bigger show rather than someone who is shifting tickets. His last contest where ticket sales might have mattered was at Walsall Town Hall on the undercard of Langford v Welborn which I believe only holds 900 for boxing anyway.bripez wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:54I tend to agree - he is after being gifted the Commonwealth title.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 07:49
I would be surprised if he doesn't pick up a title belt of some description.
He has become popular on Twitter, but I am not sure how that translates to ticket sales etc.?
Re: Dave Allen - fulltime?
Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 20:08
How many?mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 17:43He sold a good few for Brook-Spence.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 10:17I said something similar on this thread or maybe another. He is a likeable enough young man but so far he has been ‘the opponent’ or a supporting act for a bigger show rather than someone who is shifting tickets. His last contest where ticket sales might have mattered was at Walsall Town Hall on the undercard of Langford v Welborn which I believe only holds 900 for boxing anyway.