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skanksta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 13:58 It's hard to imagine the new trainer is anything more than a paid 'yes man'.
There's not even any proof that he's competent is there ?

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 14:03

skanksta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 13:58 It's hard to imagine the new trainer is anything more than a paid 'yes man'.
There's not even any proof that he's competent is there ?

Considering Fury lost 130+ pounds as fast as he did and easily beat two stiffs, is at the very least the sure telltale sign that his new trainer is competent (at least in terms of conditioning), and Fury (like Ali) doesn't need much (if any) pointers on what to do in that ring because he's his own style. Why fix what isn't broke?

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 14:03

skanksta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 13:58 It's hard to imagine the new trainer is anything more than a paid 'yes man'.
There's not even any proof that he's competent is there ?

Considering Fury lost 130+ pounds as fast as he did and easily beat two stiffs, is at the very least the sure telltale sign that his new trainer is competent (at least in terms of conditioning), and Fury (like Ali) doesn't need much (if any) pointers on what to do in that ring because he's his own style. Why fix what isn't broke?

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 14:21 There is a rumor..... though unsubstantiated.... that while Tyson was in the midst of depression, and having potential divorce talks with his wife.... that Hughie Fury became the shoulder to cry on for Paris, and that (allegedly) is the reason for the continental shift in the family.

I don't know if I believe it, considering Tyson did show up in support of Hughie in his title bid against Parker--- then again--- Tyson was very complimentary, friendly, etc with Parker during that time which made people think Tyson was actually supporting him rather than his cousin, etc.

These things get thrown around and probably have no truth to it--- it could very well be that Peter simply "washed his hands" of his own nephew because he felt Tyson wasted his time with the Klitschko rematch going down the tubes, the failed drug test, the cocaine habit, the massive weight gain, not taking things seriously as he should have, etc.

coneye wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 19:36 I don't know anything , i'm just like the rest of you an internet gossip , who gossips to pass the time ,, but for my two pennyworth , i think the writing was on the wall when his dad got out of jail , Peter had trained Tyson up to world champ level , the dad got out of jail and straight away got involved , he became very vocal out of the gym , loved the limelight and kugan interviews , my son this , my son that , he was becoming a bigger star than Tyson , god knows what he was like in the gym ,

Peter on the other hand is very astute , a good trainer does'nt rant and rave with bulging eyes, trying to convince the world he's a big bad man , and is used to being captain of the ship , along comes his brother who wants joint captaincy , it was never ever gonna work ,,, Think about it would any of you as a trainer, coach a lad ,and then when they were succesful let the father take over , , I know myself on many many occasions , i have told fathers , keep your nose out , or take your boy elsewhere , and were not even talking world champion level , my guess is Peter done the job , then along comes his brother sticking his nose in , at the same time , Tyson is enjoying his wealth , snorting coke , going on booze binges , pulling out of fights ,definetly not acting like a seasoned profesional world champ athlete , , more like a football yob ,

And Peter just said fook it i'm out of here , i'm gonna train my own son to do what Tyson has done , and guess what , i think in another 4-5 years Hughie probably will be world champ , i think Hughie is just turning out to be a slow maturer , give him time , and he'll develop some spite to go with his good skills . and whats more a few losses along the way will not hurt him

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 01:34 Amazingly, I agree with Coneye. Big John will have been involved.

astradamus wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 10:12 I believe them working together with David Haye was the final blow for Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury hates Haye and rightfully so, Haye wasted several years of his carreer with just talks and bullshit, like Wilder wasted Povetkin his carreer with just talks, lies and bullshit.

bigjack wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 12:10

astradamus wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 10:12 I believe them working together with David Haye was the final blow for Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury hates Haye and rightfully so, Haye wasted several years of his carreer with just talks and bullshit, like Wilder wasted Povetkin his carreer with just talks, lies and bullshit.

Let it go man,let it go

astradamus wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 10:12 I believe them working together with David Haye was the final blow for Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury hates Haye and rightfully so, Haye wasted several years of his carreer with just talks and bullshit, like Wilder wasted Povetkin his carreer with just talks, lies and bullshit.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 14:03 Fury (like Ali)

samwbr wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 12:36 Family business and no one elses I reckon.

Coco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 14:55 Is the story about John Fury and Frank Grant true?

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 14:26 Even Angelo Dundee said he didn't teach Ali anything. He simply just made sure he trained. If Fury loses because of technical flaws, conditioning issues, etc. its effectively all on him--- period--- but then again maybe losing would be the best thing for him because one can argue Ali proved just how "great" he actually was after losing to Frazier and having to rebuild his style.

Coco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 14:55 Is the story about John Fury and Frank Grant true?

coneye wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 17:48

Coco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 14:55 Is the story about John Fury and Frank Grant true?

Being nosey ,,, please enlighten

Coco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 17:59

coneye wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 17:48

Coco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 14:55 Is the story about John Fury and Frank Grant true?

Being nosey ,,, please enlighten

Fury turned up looking for sparring, looking to beat up on smaller guys. Grant jumped in, he didn't care for no one, ended up hammering Fury and Fury jumped out.
Then he starts saying that he wasn't fit/injured etc and could hammer Grant on the cobbles if he wanted
So they went outside in the pouring rain but by the time Grant got his top off Fury had legged it to the car and sped away complaining he had just had a baby