Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

[apollo creed]

I wonder what flaws Garcia sees in Spence's game ? It's not like Errol is Berto or Khan. That dude is strong/tough and he has some solid boxing skills.

He's not Berto or Khan but it could be the same flaws Canelo saw in GGG or Hopkins saw in Pavlik. Spence is really big and strong but Mikey will be faster and can throw straight punches up the middle and catch Spence while Spence is throwing strong stiff hooks to the body. Mikey has the best accurate 1-2 straight in the game.

No just no.

[IKSRTFO]

I wonder what flaws Garcia sees in Spence's game ? It's not like Errol is Berto or Khan. That dude is strong/tough and he has some solid boxing skills.

He's not Berto or Khan but it could be the same flaws Canelo saw in GGG or Hopkins saw in Pavlik. Spence is really big and strong but Mikey will be faster and can throw straight punches up the middle and catch Spence while Spence is throwing strong stiff hooks to the body. Mikey has the best accurate 1-2 straight in the game.

No just no.

Yes, Spence bread and butter is his hooks and they're not as fast nor as short as prime De La Loya or even prime Trinidad.

[Ruthless-RKO]

March 16 at AT&T Stadium

[Ruthless-RKO]

According to a report by the Los Angeles Times, the proposed showdown between Mikey Garcia and Errol Spence is heading to a date of March 16 - at the AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

It's being reported that site deal has been reached between the venue and Premier Boxing Champions. Showtime Pay-Per-View is expected to carry the bout.

The two fighters have proved to be solid draws.

For his July unification with Robert Easter in July, Garcia brought in 12,560 fans to Staples Center in Los Amgeles. And Spence’s most recent bout sold out the Star, which holds 12,000, in Texas.

While the site has been finalized, there are still certain terms that have to be hammered down between the fighters.

[TempleSlave]

Equally slim chances of winning as vs Loma, with much higher pay day - simples. Boxers have quite limited number of (really) big money fights throughout their careers so he’s just trying to make the most of it.

[oogiebe]

I'm surprised to see Mikey wanting this fight. I believe that Spence is too big and too strong for him. Interested to see how this unfolds.

[SenorPipino]

Mikey Garcia believes in himself as a fighter, regardless of how big the obstacle.

He apparently sees beyond what the average fan sees--a big discrepancy in size in strength.

Good for him. It looks like Garcia will take the ultimate challenge.

He might not win, but I have a hunch that he won't embarrass himself, and will actually gain increased respect from boxing fans.

[Breaducce]

Mikey has no shot at winning against a bigger stronger fighter that is also EXTREMELY skilled. Mikey has no shot at beating Errol because he although he is incredibly technical and fundamentally sound he is also very basic in terms of his offensive and defensive tool box. Errol will have no problem running Mikey into his hooks to the head and body and his straight left hand. I was wondering what Errol could gain from beating Mikey given the size discrepancy and I think I've go it. This fight will showcase just how skillful of a boxer Errol is. A lot of people are going to be surprised to see that Mikey is not going to have a very significant speed advantage against Errol and the fight will show people how fast and skillful Errol really his, on top of his size, punching power and athleticism.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think you're underestimating Garcia.

He's an extremely smart boxer.

[jamamb]

I think you're underestimating Garcia.

He's an extremely smart boxer.

what do you rate his chances? 60-40? 70'30? Etc

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think you're underestimating Garcia.

He's an extremely smart boxer.

what do you rate his chances? 60-40? 70'30? Etc

70-30..

If Garcia was a natural WW, I would give it a 50-50..

Thing is, Garcia isn't expected to win this, but it's still a question mark of a fight. What ifs? who knows? Still an intreaging fight.

[jamamb]

mikey is good, but hes not some masterful boxer. hes not particularly fast either. he got bullied late to the body by broner and i thought lost 4 rounds to lipinits. imo 140 was already pushing it a bit.

i think 30 percent to beat spence is very generous, personally i think best case is maybe mikey takes some early rounds if spence doesnt really do much early, but cant see mikey winning. just too physically overwhelmed, and spence is hardly some totally unskilled fighter whose useless aside from being strong

[IKSRTFO]

Mikey has no shot at winning against a bigger stronger fighter that is also EXTREMELY skilled. Mikey has no shot at beating Errol because he although he is incredibly technical and fundamentally sound he is also very basic in terms of his offensive and defensive tool box. Errol will have no problem running Mikey into his hooks to the head and body and his straight left hand. I was wondering what Errol could gain from beating Mikey given the size discrepancy and I think I've go it. This fight will showcase just how skillful of a boxer Errol is. A lot of people are going to be surprised to see that Mikey is not going to have a very significant speed advantage against Errol and the fight will show people how fast and skillful Errol really his, on top of his size, punching power and athleticism.

Mikey has a shot. Errol relies slower hooks to the body just like Antonio Margarito sacrificing his reach and defense to do so. Mikey is the best 1 2 puncher in the game right up the middle.

[IKSRTFO]

mikey is good, but hes not some masterful boxer. hes not particularly fast either. he got bullied late to the body by broner and i thought lost 4 rounds to lipinits. imo 140 was already pushing it a bit.

i think 30 percent to beat spence is very generous, personally i think best case is maybe mikey takes some early rounds if spence doesnt really do much early, but cant see mikey winning. just too physically overwhelmed, and spence is hardly some totally unskilled fighter whose useless aside from being strong

Spence isn't very fast neither especially when he goes into brawl mode. And with all of Broner's flaws, he has better handspeed than Spence does.

[Breaducce]

Mikey has no shot at winning against a bigger stronger fighter that is also EXTREMELY skilled. Mikey has no shot at beating Errol because he although he is incredibly technical and fundamentally sound he is also very basic in terms of his offensive and defensive tool box. Errol will have no problem running Mikey into his hooks to the head and body and his straight left hand. I was wondering what Errol could gain from beating Mikey given the size discrepancy and I think I've go it. This fight will showcase just how skillful of a boxer Errol is. A lot of people are going to be surprised to see that Mikey is not going to have a very significant speed advantage against Errol and the fight will show people how fast and skillful Errol really his, on top of his size, punching power and athleticism.

Mikey has a shot. Errol relies slower hooks to the body just like Antonio Margarito sacrificing his reach and defense to do so. Mikey is the best 1 2 puncher in the game right up the middle.

I have to disagree because first off. Errol's punches in general are not slow at all they are very sharp, accurate and well timed. Also, Errol has a great quick accurate straight left hand in his arsenal and a educated piston of a right jab to set it up so this notion that Mikey is going to punch through wide punches is just not the case. Again Errol is a very crisp compact puncher by nature with straights, hooks, and uppercuts, he can punch wide when needed but he is very good at keeping everything sharp and straight to the target. Also Errol is going to have the length and reach advantage so you better believe that Errol's jab and straight left hand is going to be punishing Mikey early and often. And I don't agree that Mikey even has the best 1 2 in the game, Crawford has as good if not better one to then Garcia, Garcia just does not have as much versatility as crawford and is more reliant on his one two game, but this does not mean his 1 2 is the best in boxing. It is a great 1 2 though. That also reminds me that another advantage that Errol will have is that he has more tools and punch variety from an offensive stand point then Garcia has. Garcia is a great fighter and one of my favorites in the game, but the more I think about it the more I just don't see how anyone is giving Garcia a shot in this fight. Lipinets and Easter gave Gacia some trouble at spots during his fights as did Broner. Errol stops Lipinets and Easter in minimum 6, 7 rounds and already knocked Broner senseless in sparring. I welcome that fight as a fan of both fighters and of guys pushing their limits but make no mistake about it Garcia is going to get hurt bad unless Spence lands a quick KO punch, or the referee, his corner or doctor saves him.

[StrapMeUp]

Negotiations are progressing for Errol Spence Jr. and Mikey Garcia to meet in a welterweight title fight early next year.

A source has confirmed to BS.com that Spence likely will defend his IBF 147-pound championship against Garcia at some point in February. Showtime would distribute their pay-per-view event, and February 16 and February 23 are two potential dates for Spence-Garcia to take place.

RingTV.com first reported Thursday that a Spence-Garcia deal is nearing completion. Assuming a deal is completed, Spence-Garcia won’t be officially announced until Showtime’s first pay-per-view show of the new year – headlined by Manny Pacquiao versus Adrien Broner on January 19 in Las Vegas – is made official.

If Spence (24-0, 21 KOs) and Garcia (39-0, 30 KOs) come to an agreement, Garcia won’t make a mandatory defense of his IBF lightweight title in his next fight against Ghana’s Richard Commey (27-2, 24 KOs). ESPN.com reported earlier this month that representatives for Garcia and Commey came to an agreement for their mandated championship match.

Moving up two weight classes to challenge Spence obviously would earn Garcia much more than he’ll make for facing Commey. The undefeated four-division champion still would be a huge underdog against Spence, which is why most boxing fans would prefer to see Garcia go up against Vasiliy Lomachenko (11-1, 9 KOs) in a lightweight title unification fight.

Shades of Grandpa Garcia-Corrales II

[StrapMeUp]

Negotiations are progressing for Errol Spence Jr. and Mikey Garcia to meet in a welterweight title fight early next year.

A source has confirmed to BS.com that Spence likely will defend his IBF 147-pound championship against Garcia at some point in February. Showtime would distribute their pay-per-view event, and February 16 and February 23 are two potential dates for Spence-Garcia to take place.

RingTV.com first reported Thursday that a Spence-Garcia deal is nearing completion. Assuming a deal is completed, Spence-Garcia won’t be officially announced until Showtime’s first pay-per-view show of the new year – headlined by Manny Pacquiao versus Adrien Broner on January 19 in Las Vegas – is made official.

If Spence (24-0, 21 KOs) and Garcia (39-0, 30 KOs) come to an agreement, Garcia won’t make a mandatory defense of his IBF lightweight title in his next fight against Ghana’s Richard Commey (27-2, 24 KOs). ESPN.com reported earlier this month that representatives for Garcia and Commey came to an agreement for their mandated championship match.

Moving up two weight classes to challenge Spence obviously would earn Garcia much more than he’ll make for facing Commey. The undefeated four-division champion still would be a huge underdog against Spence, which is why most boxing fans would prefer to see Garcia go up against Vasiliy Lomachenko (11-1, 9 KOs) in a lightweight title unification fight.

Shades of Grandpa Garcia-Corrales II

[IKSRTFO]

Mikey has no shot at winning against a bigger stronger fighter that is also EXTREMELY skilled. Mikey has no shot at beating Errol because he although he is incredibly technical and fundamentally sound he is also very basic in terms of his offensive and defensive tool box. Errol will have no problem running Mikey into his hooks to the head and body and his straight left hand. I was wondering what Errol could gain from beating Mikey given the size discrepancy and I think I've go it. This fight will showcase just how skillful of a boxer Errol is. A lot of people are going to be surprised to see that Mikey is not going to have a very significant speed advantage against Errol and the fight will show people how fast and skillful Errol really his, on top of his size, punching power and athleticism.

Mikey has a shot. Errol relies slower hooks to the body just like Antonio Margarito sacrificing his reach and defense to do so. Mikey is the best 1 2 puncher in the game right up the middle.

I have to disagree because first off. Errol's punches in general are not slow at all they are very sharp, accurate and well timed. Also, Errol has a great quick accurate straight left hand in his arsenal and a educated piston of a right jab to set it up so this notion that Mikey is going to punch through wide punches is just not the case. Again Errol is a very crisp compact puncher by nature with straights, hooks, and uppercuts, he can punch wide when needed but he is very good at keeping everything sharp and straight to the target. Also Errol is going to have the length and reach advantage so you better believe that Errol's jab and straight left hand is going to be punishing Mikey early and often. And I don't agree that Mikey even has the best 1 2 in the game, Crawford has as good if not better one to then Garcia, Garcia just does not have as much versatility as crawford and is more reliant on his one two game, but this does not mean his 1 2 is the best in boxing. It is a great 1 2 though. That also reminds me that another advantage that Errol will have is that he has more tools and punch variety from an offensive stand point then Garcia has. Garcia is a great fighter and one of my favorites in the game, but the more I think about it the more I just don't see how anyone is giving Garcia a shot in this fight. Lipinets and Easter gave Gacia some trouble at spots during his fights as did Broner. Errol stops Lipinets and Easter in minimum 6, 7 rounds and already knocked Broner senseless in sparring. I welcome that fight as a fan of both fighters and of guys pushing their limits but make no mistake about it Garcia is going to get hurt bad unless Spence lands a quick KO punch, or the referee, his corner or doctor saves him.

Compared to the two fighters you mentioned in this paragraph, Garcia and Crawford, Spence is clearly the slowest of the three and doesn't move as well as the other two. Mikey is more slick than Spence is. You can see that comparison just looking at their fights on YouTube.

[Breaducce]

Mikey has a shot. Errol relies slower hooks to the body just like Antonio Margarito sacrificing his reach and defense to do so. Mikey is the best 1 2 puncher in the game right up the middle.

I have to disagree because first off. Errol's punches in general are not slow at all they are very sharp, accurate and well timed. Also, Errol has a great quick accurate straight left hand in his arsenal and a educated piston of a right jab to set it up so this notion that Mikey is going to punch through wide punches is just not the case. Again Errol is a very crisp compact puncher by nature with straights, hooks, and uppercuts, he can punch wide when needed but he is very good at keeping everything sharp and straight to the target. Also Errol is going to have the length and reach advantage so you better believe that Errol's jab and straight left hand is going to be punishing Mikey early and often. And I don't agree that Mikey even has the best 1 2 in the game, Crawford has as good if not better one to then Garcia, Garcia just does not have as much versatility as crawford and is more reliant on his one two game, but this does not mean his 1 2 is the best in boxing. It is a great 1 2 though. That also reminds me that another advantage that Errol will have is that he has more tools and punch variety from an offensive stand point then Garcia has. Garcia is a great fighter and one of my favorites in the game, but the more I think about it the more I just don't see how anyone is giving Garcia a shot in this fight. Lipinets and Easter gave Gacia some trouble at spots during his fights as did Broner. Errol stops Lipinets and Easter in minimum 6, 7 rounds and already knocked Broner senseless in sparring. I welcome that fight as a fan of both fighters and of guys pushing their limits but make no mistake about it Garcia is going to get hurt bad unless Spence lands a quick KO punch, or the referee, his corner or doctor saves him.

Compared to the two fighters you mentioned in this paragraph, Garcia and Crawford, Spence is clearly the slowest of the three and doesn't move as well as the other two. Mikey is more slick than Spence is. You can see that comparison just looking at their fights on YouTube.

Yes his punches are slower then both fighters which makes sense because they are naturally smaller, BUT and this is a big but the discrepancy is not CLOSE to as big as many people are thinking given the size difference. That's what confused me about your Margarito comparison, hooks or not all equal and Errol is a FARR quicker, sharper and more accurate puncher then Margirito. Margarito overwhelmed you with punch output, Errol does this with punch accuracy. I don't think Mikey is slicker or more skillful then Spence at all. I agree that Crawford is a better mover then Spence but Mikey is not Crawford and he does not have the quickest feet. Errol fights a more offensive pressure style then Mikey and by nature of that he is in range to get hit much more then Mikey and despite this takes minimal punches in his fights and shows great defense. Oh and just an FYI I'ma fan of both fighters and I've watched all of Mikey's and Errol's professional fights which is what I am basing my assessment on.

[Impractical Poster]

strange fight

It is, but I like it.

[Impractical Poster]

Mikey has no shot at winning against a bigger stronger fighter that is also EXTREMELY skilled. Mikey has no shot at beating Errol because he although he is incredibly technical and fundamentally sound he is also very basic in terms of his offensive and defensive tool box. Errol will have no problem running Mikey into his hooks to the head and body and his straight left hand. I was wondering what Errol could gain from beating Mikey given the size discrepancy and I think I've go it. This fight will showcase just how skillful of a boxer Errol is. A lot of people are going to be surprised to see that Mikey is not going to have a very significant speed advantage against Errol and the fight will show people how fast and skillful Errol really his, on top of his size, punching power and athleticism.

Mikey and his team/family know boxing better than 99.9999% of the universe. If they want this fight, they know they have a good shot at winning.

[Breaducce]

Mikey has no shot at winning against a bigger stronger fighter that is also EXTREMELY skilled. Mikey has no shot at beating Errol because he although he is incredibly technical and fundamentally sound he is also very basic in terms of his offensive and defensive tool box. Errol will have no problem running Mikey into his hooks to the head and body and his straight left hand. I was wondering what Errol could gain from beating Mikey given the size discrepancy and I think I've go it. This fight will showcase just how skillful of a boxer Errol is. A lot of people are going to be surprised to see that Mikey is not going to have a very significant speed advantage against Errol and the fight will show people how fast and skillful Errol really his, on top of his size, punching power and athleticism.

Mikey and his team/family know boxing better than 99.9999% of the universe. If they want this fight, they know they have a good shot at winning.

Mikey's team family may think they have a shot the question is are they right. Dom Ingle thought Kell Brook had a chance vs Golovkin but how did that work out for Kell Brook. To win this fight Mikey is going to have to win a decision, now what are the chances of him not taking brutal damage against a much bigger, stronger, more offensively diverse, boxer like spence. Mikey is not crawford and does not have the quickest feet. Honestly this fight makes sense for Mikey because it can make him big money and if he loses against spence the loma fight will still on the table because it will be seen as him losing to a boxer with a size advantage.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Spence-Garcia To Be Announced As FOX PPV March 16

The Errol Spence Jr.-Mikey Garcia fight will be announced Tuesday as part of the FOX-Premier Boxing Champions press conference in Los Angeles.

Spence-Garcia was targeted as a pay-per-view event since it gained traction this summer as a realistic possibility. Showtime was expected to distribute it, but FOX has acquired those rights as part of its new deal with Al Haymon’s PBC.

Showtime has televised each of Spence’s past three bouts. Haymon has assured FOX executives, however, that the best boxers he represents will fight on FOX or FOX Pay-Per-View in some instances.

Spence-Garcia is expected to take place March 16 at the Dallas Cowboys’ AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

The 28-year-old Spence (24-0, 21 KOs) is heavily favored to defeat Garcia (39-0, 30 KOs) due to a significant size advantage the powerful southpaw owns. Garcia will move up two weight classes – from lightweight to welterweight – to challenge Spence for his IBF 147-pound championship in a bout between two of the best boxers, pound-for-pound, in the sport.

Their fight also will test Spence and Garcia as pay-per-view draws. Neither fighter has headlined a pay-per-view show, but their showdown will receive a huge promotional push from FOX, a broadcast network that reaches approximately 120 million homes in the United States.

The 30-year-old Garcia, of Oxnard, California, beat Robert Easter Jr. (21-1, 14 KOs) in his last fight – a 12-round, 135-pound title unification fight July 28 at Staples Center in Los Angeles. Spence, of DeSoto, Texas, stopped Mexico’s Carlos Ocampo (23-1, 14 KOs) in the first round of his last bout, a mandatory title defense June 16 at Ford Center at The Star, the Cowboys’ training facility in Frisco, Texas.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I was thinking Showtime PPV would have been a way to go but after reading:

Their fight also will test Spence and Garcia as pay-per-view draws. Neither fighter has headlined a pay-per-view show, but their showdown will receive a huge promotional push from FOX, a broadcast network that reaches approximately 120 million homes in the United States.

Kinda made more sense. FOX is free-to-air in the US I believe. They can easily push this fight down peoples throats, throughs ads, talk shows etc. I wonder what the price will be for the PPV event too.



I was wondering why boxers never appear on shows like Jimmy Fallon or Kimmel etc. But that's another thread.

[lazboy]

Still in shock that this is happening. Saw a YouTube clip of a face off and The size difference is significant.

If Garcia puts on a great performance, if its a great fight and/or he gets the win he deserves all the praise however if he loses, His ambition to fight the best and such a dangerous foe will be forgotten amongst what is too much of a risk to the point of silliness.

If he loses and badly I will personally think it was silly just because there are other good fights out there for him...around his natural weight.

Maybe I’m taking it too serious because it’s jut a fight after all but sometimes these things ruin ppls careers and I for one would like to see Garcia continue at his best.