oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:43
He lasted 8 v. Miller. I think Washington can beat Kownacki. I think he's all wrong for him.
No one has voted for Washington yet. I voted Adam by decision. But Washington winning would be a mild upset IMO.
Kownacki hasn't fought any fighter that really posed a threat, (one can argue Charles Martin, but I wouldn't). Washington isn't a bad fighter and has a considerable height (three inches) and reach (six inches) advantage and an underrated jab. Kownacki will get frustrated with him.
No one has voted for Washington yet. I voted Adam by decision. But Washington winning would be a mild upset IMO.
Kownacki hasn't fought any fighter that really posed a threat, (one can argue Charles Martin, but I wouldn't). Washington isn't a bad fighter and has a considerable height (three inches) and reach (six inches) advantage and an underrated jab. Kownacki will get frustrated with him.
Go vote. It's your duty as a citizen.
You may very well be right.
Unfortunately I voted DEC Kownacki before really giving it some thought. Now it's too late.
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:54
Kownacki hasn't fought any fighter that really posed a threat, (one can argue Charles Martin, but I wouldn't). Washington isn't a bad fighter and has a considerable height (three inches) and reach (six inches) advantage and an underrated jab. Kownacki will get frustrated with him.
Go vote. It's your duty as a citizen.
You may very well be right.
Unfortunately I voted DEC Kownacki before really giving it some thought. Now it's too late.
I try to remember to click the thing where you can change your vote when I put up a poll. I think you may have found a "live dog" here. Washington has winning some rounds against Wilder in his muscle memory. Adam has nothing like that.
Unfortunately I voted DEC Kownacki before really giving it some thought. Now it's too late.
I try to remember to click the thing where you can change your vote when I put up a poll. I think you may have found a "live dog" here. Washington has winning some rounds against Wilder in his muscle memory. Adam has nothing like that.
Also Washington had two pretty big fights (Certainly v. Wilder) and Kownacki is stepping up in talent as well as the event itself. V. Wilder Washington was arguably ahead at the time of the stoppage.
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:54
Kownacki hasn't fought any fighter that really posed a threat, (one can argue Charles Martin, but I wouldn't). Washington isn't a bad fighter and has a considerable height (three inches) and reach (six inches) advantage and an underrated jab. Kownacki will get frustrated with him.
Go vote. It's your duty as a citizen.
You may very well be right.
Unfortunately I voted DEC Kownacki before really giving it some thought. Now it's too late.
i dont rate kownaki a bit and i think washington is close to the best guy hell be able to beat. i understand what oogies saying, but washington doesnt handle pressure well at all, and i think kownacki will get to him eventually and washington will shell up. even nagy aguilera with pressure had washington looking very shaky.
washington won rounds vs wilder but wilder wasnt putting it on him, you have to recognize the style difference, its why washington arguably won 4x as many rounds vs wilder as he did vs miller, even though wilders better then miller
jamamb wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 17:37
i dont rate kownaki a bit but washington doesnt handle pressure well at all, i think kownacki will get to him eventually and washington will shell up. even nagy aguilera with pressure had washington looking very shaky.
washington won rounds vs wilder but wilder wasnt putting it on him, you have to recognize the style difference, its why washington arguably won 4x as many rounds vs wilder as he did vs miller, even though wilders better then miller
i dont rate kownacki at all but washington is a favourable opponent style wise for him. imo washington will be close to the best guy kownacki can beat, i just dont think adams that good.
I don't rate Kownacki either, however I think Washington can give him trouble with his style. Washington relies on his length, and his jab isn't bad. Kownacki hasn't been tested by anyone like Washington (not saying much) and I just believe he'll struggle. I could be wrong, won't be the first time.
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:58
Unfortunately I voted DEC Kownacki before really giving it some thought. Now it's too late.
I try to remember to click the thing where you can change your vote when I put up a poll. I think you may have found a "live dog" here. Washington has winning some rounds against Wilder in his muscle memory. Adam has nothing like that.
Also Washington had two pretty big fights (Certainly v. Wilder) and Kownacki is stepping up in talent as well as the event itself. V. Wilder Washington was arguably ahead at the time of the stoppage.
Wilder is always behind on points. Actually I had Washington ahead. To the OP: Thanks for opening up the poll.
im not confident that washington will keep that jab up with kownacki pressuring him though, he doesnt react well to pressure at all. when he won rounds vs wilder wilder wasnt really going after him. i still remember how uncomfortable he looked with nagy aguilera pressing
but i dont think much of kownacki at all and wouldnt be surprised if he struggles, though imo he will probably win
jamamb wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 18:03
im not confident that washington will keep that jab up with kownacki pressuring him though, he doesnt react well to pressure at all. when he won rounds vs wilder wilder wasnt really going after him. i still remember how uncomfortable he looked with nagy aguilera pressing
but i dont think much of kownacki at all and wouldnt be surprised if he struggles, though imo he will probably win
Being pressured by a 300 LB freight train or a 260 LB slow poke are two entirely different things. Martin took Kowboy the distance and I certainly don't rate him. It'll be interesting.
jamamb wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 18:09
washington struggled with nagy aguuleras pressure too. and i thought he was very fortunate to get a draw with mansoure.
its a general thing with him. he doesnt look totally comfortable in the ring imo.
Aguilera was his first fight, FFS! Well he's certainly not a world beater, that's for sure. I have no affinity towards Washington, as I think he mostly underperforms, but I got a feeling on this one for some reason.
jamamb wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 18:09
washington struggled with nagy aguuleras pressure too. and i thought he was very fortunate to get a draw with mansoure.
its a general thing with him. he doesnt look totally comfortable in the ring imo.
Aguilera was his first fight, FFS! Well he's certainly not a world beater, that's for sure. I have no affinity towards Washington, as I think he mostly underperforms, but I got a feeling on this one for some reason.
Someone else had Agulera as his first fight, I believe.
jamamb wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 18:09
washington struggled with nagy aguuleras pressure too. and i thought he was very fortunate to get a draw with mansoure.
its a general thing with him. he doesnt look totally comfortable in the ring imo.
Aguilera was his first fight, FFS! Well he's certainly not a world beater, that's for sure. I have no affinity towards Washington, as I think he mostly underperforms, but I got a feeling on this one for some reason.
Someone else had Agulera as his first fight, I believe.
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 18:12
Aguilera was his first fight, FFS! Well he's certainly not a world beater, that's for sure. I have no affinity towards Washington, as I think he mostly underperforms, but I got a feeling on this one for some reason.
Someone else had Agulera as his first fight, I believe.
No, I don't think so. It was clearly my mistake.
He went the distance with another of my 'favorites,' Breazeale.
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:43
He lasted 8 v. Miller. I think Washington can beat Kownacki. I think he's all wrong for him.
No one has voted for Washington yet. I voted Adam by decision. But Washington winning would be a mild upset IMO.
Kownacki hasn't fought any fighter that really posed a threat, (one can argue Charles Martin, but I wouldn't). Washington isn't a bad fighter and has a considerable height (three inches) and reach (six inches) advantage and an underrated jab. Kownacki will get frustrated with him.
Kownacki uses his face as his best defence, Washington's jab won't bother him I don't think. Washing needs to set up before he throws, I don't think Adam will let him.
It should be entertaining though.
