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oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:13

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:03

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 09:16 Per the California State Athletic Commission, official contract purses for Saturday night’s Premier Boxing Champions card on Fox:

Shawn Porter $1.25 million, Yordenis Ugas $300k,

Abel Ramos $50k, Francisco Santana $50k,

Efe Ajagba $8k, Amir Mansour $25k,

Damien Vazquez $15k, Juan Carlos Payano $5k,

Eimantas Stanionis $8k, Samuel Figueroa $10k,

Robert Guerrero $25k, Hevinson Herrera $1k,

Jesus Cuellar $40k, Carlos Padilla $1k.

Is that $8K figure for Ajagba accurate.? He can't be one of the lowest paid guys on the card.

Why do you say that? Do you think he draws enough ticket buyers on his own to be worth more at this stage of his career?

Absolutely. Certainly compared to Mansour, who is supposedly earning 3 times as much.

Ajagba is the fighter being pushed into the spotlight. Mansour is just the sacrificial victim.

There's a lot of social media buzz surrounding Ajagba. When Harper walked out of the ring, that brought quite a bit of mainstream attention to him.

He's a big, hard hitting heavyweight. Many fans are interested in seeing him. A lot of curiosity.

Does you think viewers are more eager to see Ramos or Santana, yet they're listed as being paid more than 5 times as much as Ajagba?

Doesn't make sense to me.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:54

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:13

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:03

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 09:16 Per the California State Athletic Commission, official contract purses for Saturday night’s Premier Boxing Champions card on Fox:

Shawn Porter $1.25 million, Yordenis Ugas $300k,

Abel Ramos $50k, Francisco Santana $50k,

Efe Ajagba $8k, Amir Mansour $25k,

Damien Vazquez $15k, Juan Carlos Payano $5k,

Eimantas Stanionis $8k, Samuel Figueroa $10k,

Robert Guerrero $25k, Hevinson Herrera $1k,

Jesus Cuellar $40k, Carlos Padilla $1k.

Is that $8K figure for Ajagba accurate.? He can't be one of the lowest paid guys on the card.

Why do you say that? Do you think he draws enough ticket buyers on his own to be worth more at this stage of his career?

Absolutely. Certainly compared to Mansour, who is supposedly earning 3 times as much.

Ajagba is the fighter being pushed into the spotlight. Mansour is just the sacrificial victim.

There's a lot of social media buzz surrounding Ajagba. When Harper walked out of the ring, that brought quite a bit of mainstream attention to him.

He's a big, hard hitting heavyweight. Many fans are interested in seeing him. A lot of curiosity.

Does you think viewers are more eager to see Ramos or Santana, yet they're listed as being paid more than 5 times as much as Ajagba?

Doesn't make sense to me.

TBH. Before Harper walked out on their fight, this forum didn’t even talk about Ajagba.

He’s still a prospect, he’s not a big name, not even a name of you ask anyone. The whole Harper walking out pushed his name out there more. That’s it. I said on a different thread, it’s probably his highest purse.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:54

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:13

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 12:03

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 09:16 Per the California State Athletic Commission, official contract purses for Saturday night’s Premier Boxing Champions card on Fox:

Shawn Porter $1.25 million, Yordenis Ugas $300k,

Abel Ramos $50k, Francisco Santana $50k,

Efe Ajagba $8k, Amir Mansour $25k,

Damien Vazquez $15k, Juan Carlos Payano $5k,

Eimantas Stanionis $8k, Samuel Figueroa $10k,

Robert Guerrero $25k, Hevinson Herrera $1k,

Jesus Cuellar $40k, Carlos Padilla $1k.

Is that $8K figure for Ajagba accurate.? He can't be one of the lowest paid guys on the card.

Why do you say that? Do you think he draws enough ticket buyers on his own to be worth more at this stage of his career?

Absolutely. Certainly compared to Mansour, who is supposedly earning 3 times as much.

Ajagba is the fighter being pushed into the spotlight. Mansour is just the sacrificial victim.

There's a lot of social media buzz surrounding Ajagba. When Harper walked out of the ring, that brought quite a bit of mainstream attention to him.

He's a big, hard hitting heavyweight. Many fans are interested in seeing him. A lot of curiosity.

Does you think viewers are more eager to see Ramos or Santana, yet they're listed as being paid more than 5 times as much as Ajagba?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Only hard-core fans even know who he is. Geez, he's just a 8 fight prospect without amateur pedigree. I love the kid, but he ain't selling tickets yet. This is the first name he's faced and the guy is over 40 and well past it.

Taking a pound off is crazy in two hours BUT taking nearly 1.8 pounds is excruciating hope the cuban targets that body, a real shame no UK broadcaster has picked this up...

kbackup408 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:26 Taking a pound off is crazy in two hours BUT taking nearly 1.8 pounds is excruciating hope the cuban targets that body, a real shame no UK broadcaster has picked this up...

Porter cut his hair to help him make weight. I think that's hilarious.

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:27

kbackup408 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:26 Taking a pound off is crazy in two hours BUT taking nearly 1.8 pounds is excruciating hope the cuban targets that body, a real shame no UK broadcaster has picked this up...

Porter cut his hair to help him make weight. I think that's hilarious.

just out of interest pal, has a broadcaster picked this up lastminute - i'll be watching the DAZN card via VPN

But yet the Ajagba fight will be televised. I believe it kicks off the main FOX telecast. Not the other prelims that will be shown on FS1.

That's an indication that there's already strong interest in showcasing him.

I'm not questioning Ajagba's current status as simply a prospect.

It just seems odd that a strapping power punching heavyweight fighter who seems to be attracting a following, would be paid so little.

Mansour isn't really a name either except to hardcores, yet he's earning a decent paycheck.

Maybe Ajagba will prove to be unhappy with tonight's wages and he'll pull a Harper and walk too

kbackup408 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:27

kbackup408 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:26 Taking a pound off is crazy in two hours BUT taking nearly 1.8 pounds is excruciating hope the cuban targets that body, a real shame no UK broadcaster has picked this up...

Porter cut his hair to help him make weight. I think that's hilarious.

just out of interest pal, has a broadcaster picked this up lastminute - i'll be watching the DAZN card via VPN

Saw all that yesterday on multiple sites and youtube channels. (I'm in the USA)

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:33 But yet the Ajagba fight will be televised. I believe it kicks off the main FOX telecast. Not the other prelims that will be shown on FS1.

That's an indication that there's already strong interest in showcasing him.

I'm not questioning Ajagba's current status as simply a prospect.

It just seems odd that a strapping power punching heavyweight fighter who seems to be attracting a following, would be paid so little.

Mansour isn't really a name either except to hardcores, yet he's earning a decent paycheck.

Maybe Ajagba will prove to be unhappy with tonight's wages and he'll pull a Harper and walk too

On your first point, he may have a cut of the viewership as he's on tv.

On your last point, you have me LMFAO!

Lucky for me I have US FOX and FS1 via iptv. Easier to just tune in to that.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:45 Lucky for me I have US FOX and FS1 via iptv. Easier to just tune in to that.

I have always known you to be a smart fox Ruthless !

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:36

kbackup408 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:27

kbackup408 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 15:26 Taking a pound off is crazy in two hours BUT taking nearly 1.8 pounds is excruciating hope the cuban targets that body, a real shame no UK broadcaster has picked this up...

Porter cut his hair to help him make weight. I think that's hilarious.

just out of interest pal, has a broadcaster picked this up lastminute - i'll be watching the DAZN card via VPN

Saw all that yesterday on multiple sites and youtube channels. (I'm in the USA)

Enjoy the boxing mate :) !

Stats and Stakes

Shawn Porter
Age: 31
Title: WBC welterweight (2018-Present, 1stAttempted Defense)
Previous Titles: IBF welterweight (2013-14, 1 Defense)
Height: 5’7
Weight: 146 ¾ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Las Vegas, Nevada
Record: 29-2-1, 17 KO
Press Rankings: #2 (TBRB), #3 (BoxRec), #4 (Ring), #5 (ESPN, Boxing Monthly)
Record in Major Title Fights: 3-2, 1 KO
Last Five Opponents: 139-11-2 (.921)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Julio Diaz D10, UD10; Devon Alexander UD12; Paulie Malignaggi TKO4; Kell Brook L12; Adrien Broner UD12; Keith Thurman L12; Andre Berto TKO9; Danny Garcia UD12

vs.

Yordenis Ugas
Age: 32
Title/Previous Titles: None
Height: 5’9
Weight: 146 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Miami, Florida (Born in Cuba)
Record: 23-3, 11 KO
Press Rankings: #7 (ESPN), #8 (TBRB, Ring), #9 (BoxRec)
Record in Major Title Fights: 1stTitle Opportunity
Last Five Opponents: 117-27-6 (.800)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: None

Porter has a terrific amount of big fight experience.

But I think it's his high punch output that gives him the edge. Might be the busiest puncher among the welters.

But let's see if his weight problems drains him any, especially down the stretch.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 17:27 Porter has a terrific amount of big fight experience.

But I think it's his high punch output that gives him the edge. Might be the busiest puncher among the welters.

But let's see if his weight problems drains him any, especially down the stretch.

It happens, one fight, someone looks right peak on their game, and the next. They lose to an upcomer.. could very well happen here.

Not many had Browne beating Jack. People kept saying Browne hasn’t had the experience, well TBH. no upcomer has that big fight experience until they actually fight a name.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 17:30

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 17:27 Porter has a terrific amount of big fight experience.

But I think it's his high punch output that gives him the edge. Might be the busiest puncher among the welters.

But let's see if his weight problems drains him any, especially down the stretch.

It happens, one fight, someone looks right peak on their game, and the next. They lose to an upcomer.. could very well happen here.

Not many had Browne beating Jack. People kept saying Browne hasn’t had the experience, well TBH. no upcomer has that big fight experience until they actually fight a name.

Very true, porter seems to rely heavily on his physicality and heart. If that goes...maybe his record starts going.

I've just tuned in and saw the last 4 rounds of Santana vs Ramos and I can tell you that it was a hell of a good 4 rounds.

Gosh if Ugas can land his average power shots 40% to the body*, poor Shawn Porter is going to be sore tomorrow.

*Taking a pinch of salt with every one of those statistic charts...

Erm.....Ugas is huge and people are saying he has good skills (I've never seen him). I'm always happy to bet against Porter. Think I might change my pick.

Both in the ring. Seconds away.

Gotta love that mouthpiece

lol

rd 1 - extremely close - could give benefit to the champ Porter

rd 2 - Ugas lands the heavy punches. Ugas.

r 3 - even

Porter experience is allowing him to fake out Ugas who is waiting. Ugas need to ramp it up as its not as though Porter is throwing a lot.