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ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:09 Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

ironbeard wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:13

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:09 Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

You should be thanking him for NOT starting another thread about it.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:09 Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:09 Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:45

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:46

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:45

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:48

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:45

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

There's already a century of evidence out there that a good small man can beat a good big man.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:45

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:46

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:18

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:10

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:09 Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Deontay Wilder previously stated that he'd consider making the move down to cruiserweight after facing AJ. People said his ability to fulfil this claim was categorically impossible, despite the American weighing 220lbs or less for 63% of his bouts.

I read all sorts of ludicrous excuses as to their reasons why Wilder was physically incapable of making 200lbs, but there’s so much evidence to support Deontay’s claims that it actually seems moronic to even claim otherwise. The numbers simply don’t lie!

Does anybody sincerely believe that a fully hydrated version of Deontay Wilder that weighs 212½lbs cannot make 200lbs with consummate ease?

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:54

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:46

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Nobody said he needs to fight at Cruiser. I'm using Wilder as a current example for those uninformed that think you've got to weigh over 240 to be a successful HW.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:47

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:46

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:43

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Yep a fighter would never make even half of what he's gonna make for this fight as a Cruiserweight.

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:57

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:54

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:46

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Nobody said he needs to fight at Cruiser. I'm using Wilder as a current example for those uninformed that think you've got to weigh over 240 to be a successful HW.

Yeah I know.

It wasn't you I was replying to in the first instance. It was to someone saying Wilder could make cruiserweight no problem.

For what it's worth I agree with you. Of course the lighter guy can win at heavyweight, especially if he's fast and hits hard.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:07

ironbeard wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:06 Whether he COULD make 200 or not, 212.5 for this fight seems too light for me.

I do agree I think closer 220-225 would of been his goal.
Breland probably has a reason for this

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:32 No comment on Fury coming in at 256?
I thought people were predicting he would come in lighter or at least the same weight he was for Wlad

Thomastearns wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 20:08

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:07

ironbeard wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:06 Whether he COULD make 200 or not, 212.5 for this fight seems too light for me.

I do agree I think closer 220-225 would of been his goal.
Breland probably has a reason for this

Absolutely, and it's got to be speed. Despite his size, Fury is not the easiest boxer to tag, and Wilder will lose if he can't land.

Wlad, and everyone else mostly got beaten to the punch against Fury or caught by quick counters. That's no good to Deontay Wilder, he needs the fastest hands he has.

As they say, its the ones you don't see...

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 20:11

Thomastearns wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 20:08

tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:07

I do agree I think closer 220-225 would of been his goal.
Breland probably has a reason for this

Absolutely, and it's got to be speed. Despite his size, Fury is not the easiest boxer to tag, and Wilder will lose if he can't land.

Wlad, and everyone else mostly got beaten to the punch against Fury or caught by quick counters. That's no good to Deontay Wilder, he needs the fastest hands he has.

As they say, its the ones you don't see...

Wlad got beat because he didn't fight.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 20:55

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 20:11

Thomastearns wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 20:08

Absolutely, and it's got to be speed. Despite his size, Fury is not the easiest boxer to tag, and Wilder will lose if he can't land.

Wlad, and everyone else mostly got beaten to the punch against Fury or caught by quick counters. That's no good to Deontay Wilder, he needs the fastest hands he has.

As they say, its the ones you don't see...

Wlad got beat because he didn't fight.

Didn't or couldn't?

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 19:08

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 18:56 Deontay Wilder's average weight, whenever he's competed against a top-ten The Ring rated opponent, is only 216lbs.

The American’s average weight for his last two bouts is only 213lbs.

It’s clear that ‘The Bronze Bomber’ can make 200lbs easily.

A lot of people mocked my claim, despite Deontay Wilder previously stating that he'd consider making the move down to cruiserweight.

So I find it really ridiculous for people to have argued against this point, whilst falsely citing that Wilder only previously weighed light due to “illness”. What a pile of fµck¡ng bȕllsh¡t! Those stupid fµckȅrs that said such things are as dumb as fȕck!

Come on people, let’s hear those excuses! I want to see someone attempt to engage in this debate with me once again, despite the overwhelming amount of compelling evidence to support my stance! So bring it on – I dare you to do your worst!

Why would he want to make 200lbs? It's completely pointless. He's wbc heavyweight champion.