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a draw was actually one of the worst results for the 'hahaha lol at hearn and aj' crew

-neither fury or wilder established there mandate for being the guy aj needs to fight
-wilder vs aj is no longer the clear big one no matter how wilder screams and the pressure if off aj a bit there
-the draw could mean rematch clause doesnt go into effect and so aj can now fight either next year
-fury is now a bigger fight for aj then if fury had been sparked as many expected
- a win over either fury or wilder means aj beats a guy the other couldnt


and if hearn really does want to protect aj and duck like some ppl believe, the lack of anyone winning last night and establishing themselves as the 'need to fight' will allow that to happen without so much preassure or scrutiny to fight a particular guy

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 12:56 I think he's starting to feel a little embarrassed tbh.

Bet he isn't. Him and Fury will be fighting at Wembley for a huge purse at the highest price PPV in British history.

He’s thinking that he could beat both of them on the same night and to be honest he’s right

Yeah. You're the expert. Bet your life savings on it.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 14:37

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 13:16

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 12:56 I think he's starting to feel a little embarrassed tbh.

Not sure why to be honest.

Perhaps when that stage full of heavyweight legends (past and present) all heavily criticised him to the worlds press and his top two rivals calling a coward over a plethora of media platforms. Then there's the fans who can only dream of earning the sort of money he turned down questioning him. Perhaps.

The heavyweight legends all paid a fee to be there and big up the fight last night?
The fact Wilder and Fury had a dramatic fight and wowed the fans yet both were obsessed with Joshua straight after shows who is the main name in the division.

I’m not really a fan of this football like mentality that’s going on in here with the ‘I’m team Fury, that means I hate Joshua’ shite though. It’s more casual than the casuals who turn out in force for Joshua’s fights!

I prefer Fury out of the lot of them but I don’t dislike any. They are all good for the game. I reserve my dislike for the likes of Eddie, Frank and co.

Probably thinking thank Fuk I didn’t fight either of them and let them fight each other, Fury got robbed, it was a draw which is great because now them 2 can knock Fuk out of each other again after probably a fight each first and buys me more time to fight another few sausages on some more pony, over hyped PPV show, in front of 80,000 coke sniffing, fake, part time wanna be, arse kissing, so called boxing people/fans and celebrities who wouldn’t know a fish from a left hook as both got too much movement for a big, stiff, manufactured fraud like me, could be wrong of course, just what ran through my mind

I'm assuming BT won't let Fury fight AJ on Sky Box Office. If I was Eddie, I'd be trying to make AJ-Wilder, but and no matter what he offers, if Finkel doesn't play ball, the casuals will blame Hearn and say that AJ is scared. The notion that any of AJ', Wilder or Fury are somehow scared of one of the others is ludicrous.

Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:33 Probably thinking thank Fuk I didn’t fight either of them and let them fight each other, Fury got robbed, it was a draw which is great because now them 2 can knock Fuk out of each other again after probably a fight each first and buys me more time to fight another few sausages on some more pony, over hyped PPV show, in front of 80,000 coke sniffing, fake, part time wanna be, arse kissing, so called boxing people/fans and celebrities who wouldn’t know a fish from a left hook as both got too much movement for a big, stiff, manufactured fraud like me, could be wrong of course, just what ran through my mind

Satire?

Ive just been checking the news feeds.
There is nothing from Hearn or Joshua commenting on the fight.
It's all very quiet at Humble HQ
Perhaps they think if they stay quiet, it will go away and they can drag Whyte out in April for another all Matchroom beatdown?
Sad really. Not my idea of a HW blockbuster. Even the casuals will be asking why not Wilder or Fury

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 14:11 He’s very quiet, can’t see any mention of the fight on his twitter account and can’t see any interviews. For someone who wants the fight so bad it’s odd he wasn’t at ringside.

Don't see why he'd be ringside when he's fighting 3 different opponents first.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:46

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 14:11 He’s very quiet, can’t see any mention of the fight on his twitter account and can’t see any interviews. For someone who wants the fight so bad it’s odd he wasn’t at ringside.

Don't see why he'd be ringside when he's fighting 3 different opponents first.

When did he ever pretend he wants the fight so bad? He seems perfectly content to just kinda go on with his career, and not even worry about these guys at the moment.

Also don't know where this "He has 3 opponents first" stuff comes from. Making some pretty big assumptions there aren't we?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:45 Ive just been checking the news feeds.
There is nothing from Hearn or Joshua commenting on the fight.
It's all very quiet at Humble HQ
Perhaps they think if they stay quiet, it will go away and they can drag Whyte out in April for another all Matchroom beatdown?
Sad really. Not my idea of a HW blockbuster. Even the casuals will be asking why not Wilder or Fury

Hearn has said a bit, you're not looking that closely.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:46

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 14:11 He’s very quiet, can’t see any mention of the fight on his twitter account and can’t see any interviews. For someone who wants the fight so bad it’s odd he wasn’t at ringside.

Don't see why he'd be ringside when he's fighting 3 different opponents first.

The inside track from Matchroom HQ. Or just huge assumptions?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:41 I'm assuming BT won't let Fury fight AJ on Sky Box Office. If I was Eddie, I'd be trying to make AJ-Wilder, but and no matter what he offers, if Finkel doesn't play ball, the casuals will blame Hearn and say that AJ is scared. The notion that any of AJ', Wilder or Fury are somehow scared of one of the others is ludicrous.

I agree with most of that tbh, I’ve been involved and around Boxing in different capacity’s most of my life in one way or another and I don’t know one single fighter personally who is scared or has been to face any other fighter, everyone is human, bleeds and can be hurt, it’s what fighters do, fight, there are a few obviously but it’s usally the people around them that put blocks in the way. I may be biased because Tyson and his uncle peter are both good friends of mine and have said this any time I’ve been asked and long before any of these match ups was spoken about, but Tyson is the man to beat for so many reasons in the HW division, he’s so big, awkward and amazing movement, talent and belief for such a big man with a heart even bigger that it will take a hell of a lot to deny him, he only ever loses if it’s to himself for what ever reason, again just my opinion but I truly believe he makes AJ look so silly and robotic it’s unreal, he’s no where near as quick or hits as hard it the movement of Wilder and we all seen what Tyson did last night after nearly 3 years after a half meaningful, meant to be competitive fight and a hell of a lot of weight gain, drink and substance abuse and terribly sad battle with mental illness, imagine now what he does if he stays active, in shape some what and healthy both mentally and physically ?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:41 I'm assuming BT won't let Fury fight AJ on Sky Box Office. If I was Eddie, I'd be trying to make AJ-Wilder, but and no matter what he offers, if Finkel doesn't play ball, the casuals will blame Hearn and say that AJ is scared. The notion that any of AJ', Wilder or Fury are somehow scared of one of the others is ludicrous.

Didn’t Fury sign a 3 fight deal with Frank?

"All wilder needs to do is land that right hand and im k.oed and fury will make me look silly all night,stay away from the two of them"

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:45

Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:33 Probably thinking thank Fuk I didn’t fight either of them and let them fight each other, Fury got robbed, it was a draw which is great because now them 2 can knock Fuk out of each other again after probably a fight each first and buys me more time to fight another few sausages on some more pony, over hyped PPV show, in front of 80,000 coke sniffing, fake, part time wanna be, arse kissing, so called boxing people/fans and celebrities who wouldn’t know a fish from a left hook as both got too much movement for a big, stiff, manufactured fraud like me, could be wrong of course, just what ran through my mind

Satire?

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:53

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:41 I'm assuming BT won't let Fury fight AJ on Sky Box Office. If I was Eddie, I'd be trying to make AJ-Wilder, but and no matter what he offers, if Finkel doesn't play ball, the casuals will blame Hearn and say that AJ is scared. The notion that any of AJ', Wilder or Fury are somehow scared of one of the others is ludicrous.

Didn’t Fury sign a 3 fight deal with Frank?

Apparently so.

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:50

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:46

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 14:11 He’s very quiet, can’t see any mention of the fight on his twitter account and can’t see any interviews. For someone who wants the fight so bad it’s odd he wasn’t at ringside.

Don't see why he'd be ringside when he's fighting 3 different opponents first.

The inside track from Matchroom HQ. Or just huge assumptions?

Whyte, Miller, Usyk in 2019, oh Hearn will be offering life changing money yada yada yada via the medium of IFL, but....who knows maybe in 2020

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:48
When did he ever pretend he wants the fight so bad? He seems perfectly content to just kinda go on with his career, and not even worry about these guys at the moment.

Also don't know where this "He has 3 opponents first" stuff comes from. Making some pretty big assumptions there aren't we?

The most recent interview I saw with AJ he said the fight he wants is Wilder.

The comment about his next 3 opponents wasn't from me.

The biggest risk for Hearn is definitely Fury. Both guys can beat Joshua but Fury can also take what Hearn really doesn't want to lose, Joshua's fanbase.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 16:30

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 14:37

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 13:16

Not sure why to be honest.

Perhaps when that stage full of heavyweight legends (past and present) all heavily criticised him to the worlds press and his top two rivals calling a coward over a plethora of media platforms. Then there's the fans who can only dream of earning the sort of money he turned down questioning him. Perhaps.

The heavyweight legends all paid a fee to be there and big up the fight last night?
The fact Wilder and Fury had a dramatic fight and wowed the fans yet both were obsessed with Joshua straight after shows who is the main name in the division.

I’m not really a fan of this football like mentality that’s going on in here with the ‘I’m team Fury, that means I hate Joshua’ shite though. It’s more casual than the casuals who turn out in force for Joshua’s fights!

I prefer Fury out of the lot of them but I don’t dislike any. They are all good for the game. I reserve my dislike for the likes of Eddie, Frank and co.

Well they've all said the same thing on the Internet channels like spam and IFL so I would doubt money is there motivating factor.

I agree though I don't back an individual fighter often.

Money not the motivating factor in professional boxing?

ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 17:33 The biggest risk for Hearn is definitely Fury. Both guys can beat Joshua but Fury can also take what Hearn really doesn't want to lose, Joshua's fanbase.

He can take a portion of the fan base. The yoots and image obsessed casuals won’t take to Fury though. He’s not fleek enough bro. Man clearly don’t lift innit? Singing American Pie? Tsk, behave brah.

Big bald white travellers aren’t ticking enough ‘goals’ for that lot of divs.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 17:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 17:33 The biggest risk for Hearn is definitely Fury. Both guys can beat Joshua but Fury can also take what Hearn really doesn't want to lose, Joshua's fanbase.

He can take a portion of the fan base. The yoots and image obsessed casuals won’t take to Fury though. He’s not fleek enough bro. Man clearly don’t lift innit? Singing American Pie? Tsk, behave brah.

Big bald white travellers aren’t ticking enough ‘goals’ for that lot of divs.

I hear what you're saying.

That lot are fickle though.

Ricky Hatton wasn't exactly the bodybuilder type and he captured a huge fanbase. Fury could do the same.