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Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 20:08
by Cyclops
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 19:47
He's incredibly slow. Him and breazeale is the fight. They're clones.
They are nothing like each other.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 20:14
by skanksta
TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 19:43
I’d like to see the Joyce/Parker fight, I reckon he’s got a canny chance of beating him.
Funny - I love Joyce and think he runs over most of the top 10 - I reckon he’d snap Wilder like a twig* but for some reason I feel Parker has his number style-wise.
I’d have €100 on Parker KO2 at 50/1 if they ever fight
I’d love to see him v anyone but Fury most of all.
He’d stop Tyson doing his ‘elephant -

-does-Mayweather’ thing and make him fight.
And who doesn’t wanna see that ?
*he needs two more decent learners before his ready for that level, mind.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 20:17
by skanksta
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 20:08
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 19:47
He's incredibly slow. Him and breazeale is the fight. They're clones.
They are nothing like each other.
Similar size, ranking and skin/hair colour. Both trade on toughness and power but are a little slow and easy to hit.
Not THAT different, Shirley?
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 22:16
by TheGingerBomber
skanksta wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 20:14
TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 19:43
I’d like to see the Joyce/Parker fight, I reckon he’s got a canny chance of beating him.
Funny - I love Joyce and think he runs over most of the top 10 - I reckon he’d snap Wilder like a twig* but for some reason I feel Parker has his number style-wise.
I’d have €100 on Parker KO2 at 50/1 if they ever fight
I’d love to see him v anyone but Fury most of all.
He’d stop Tyson doing his ‘elephant -

-does-Mayweather’ thing and make him fight.
And who doesn’t wanna see that ?
*he needs two more decent learners before his ready for that level, mind.
I’d like to see him in with someone like Charr in the next 6 months.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 23:01
by Onetimeonly
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 20:08
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 19:47
He's incredibly slow. Him and breazeale is the fight. They're clones.
They are nothing like each other.
Lol, yeah they are. Joyce is more accurate.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 23:35
by Grilling Machine
Oiky wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:24Joyce isn't fancy but he's fit and strong and can apply pressure, that's about it
You could be describing Miller. Joyce keeps moving, throws plenty, and has a decent chin. And then like Miller, he's heavy enough to come off best in most untidy fights.
I'd like to see him fight Fury, skanks. I think you're right that he'd go downstairs often enough to make it interesting. Fury likes fighting guys he can either keep at distance, or guys who overcommit from distance. Joyce might be neither. I can see him just wheeling forward and working.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 04:53
by TheLeprechaun
Usyk should make him an offer for his first fight at heavyweight. The fight would resemble usyk hitting a heavy bag in the gym.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 05:26
by skanksta
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 04:53
Usyk should make him an offer for his first fight at heavyweight. The fight would resemble usyk hitting a heavy bag in the gym.
I’m not sure Usyk would be quite the goregone conclusion everyone thinks. He’d be a heavy betting favourite obviously - but IF Joyce can make adjustments and last the first 6 it could be a very different fight.
Still Joyce would do well to avoid movers and slicksters for as long as possible.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 07:38
by hhaehre
Tony1244 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 15:16
Heavy handed. At worst a poor man's young George Foreman.
Stylewise, of course, I'm not predicting a similar pro career.
Yes, which actually makes him old Foreman. I think he will do well if he has the chin, but at 33 he has little time to mature into it. A Miller-Joyce fight would be interesting, two immovable objects colliding.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 08:53
by danconnollyeire
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 04:53
Usyk should make him an offer for his first fight at heavyweight. The fight would resemble usyk hitting a heavy bag in the gym.
No it wouldn’t Joyce lost but held his own in their World Series fight
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 10:19
by Tony1244
Shhhh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 20:25
Tony1244 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 15:16
Heavy handed. At worst a poor man's young George Foreman.
Stylewise, of course, I'm not predicting a similar pro career.
Thats wot I said to and they laughed at me lol
At first they laugh.....then they......
I forget the rest of it. LOL.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 10:22
by Coco
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 08:53
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 04:53
Usyk should make him an offer for his first fight at heavyweight. The fight would resemble usyk hitting a heavy bag in the gym.
No it wouldn’t Joyce lost but held his own in their World Series fight
While Usyk would fancy the job, we wouldn't get enough kudos for beating Joyce.
Do better fighting Miller, Chisora, Whyte, Ruiz, all easier fights for him.
Joyce is still fairly unknown in Tooting!
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 14:43
by Cyclops
skanksta wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 20:17
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 20:08
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 19:47
He's incredibly slow. Him and breazeale is the fight. They're clones.
They are nothing like each other.
Similar size, ranking and skin/hair colour. Both trade on toughness and power but are a little slow and easy to hit.
Not THAT different, Shirley?
Brilliant. Of course! They have the same hair colour! Yes, this is one of the first things I think of when comparing boxers. A chiselled olympic silver (should be gold) medallist who I don't think has dropped a round since turning pro vs a fat walking punch bag with tits who has suffered multiple knockdowns and hellacious beatings.
Clones. In fact I'm not even sure I've seen them in the same room? Perhaps they're the same person?
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 14:48
by skanksta
You ever seen them in the same room ?!
Me either...

Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 14:49
by oogiebe
He reminds me of a bigger and stronger Big John Tate. Slow and plodding, but thunderous punching power.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 14:52
by bigjack
He punches like he's underwater,really awful to watch,i can see the punches coming a mile off,surprised the opponent doesn't.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 15:03
by KiwiRider
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 08:53
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 04:53
Usyk should make him an offer for his first fight at heavyweight. The fight would resemble usyk hitting a heavy bag in the gym.
No it wouldn’t Joyce lost but held his own in their World Series fight
I have to disagree Dan.
It would be hard to give Joyce a round in that fight. Usyk schooled him, and Usyk has improved exponentially since then, Joyce- if anything- has got slower
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Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 15:04
by jamamb
guess it depends on your bar for 'holding your own'
i thought it was a clear 5-0 usyk. joyce came forward and sort of looked game, but was outclassed there imo. never really could muster anything much beyond having usyk looking totally committed to movement as though he understood a risk of a bigger man
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 18:57
by KiwiRider
After the Stiverne fight, it's pretty clear where Joyce is at.
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 20:03
by jamamb
KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 18:57
After the Stiverne fight, it's pretty clear where Joyce is at.
u mean that in a good way or bad way kiwi

Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 20:12
by KiwiRider
jamamb wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 20:03
KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 18:57
After the Stiverne fight, it's pretty clear where Joyce is at.
u mean that in a good way or bad way kiwi

Ambiguous was it?
Yeah, umm.. I saw every punch like it was in semi slo motion. Which it was. I saw Joyce get hit with 4 massive flush overhand rights in the second round, from someone other than Stiverne, he would have been out of there, end of.
I saw Joyce fail to quickly put away a guy (recenty KO'ed) who was done by the 2nd round.
Yep, it's clear to me after that fight
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 21:09
by Pukka Cheese
People like to shit on Joyce but...
Good amateur
Won a couple titles as a pro
Spends most of his time in California, sometimes training with GGG
Hes had a great career and could still go on to win a secondary world title and / or get a big money fight..
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 03:58
by Steveh583
Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑15 Mar 2019, 21:09
People like to poo on Joyce but...
Good amateur
Won a couple titles as a pro
Spends most of his time in California, sometimes training with GGG
Hes had a great career and could still go on to win a secondary world title and / or get a big money fight..
He deserved the gold medal more than AJ did imo
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 04:00
by SamWise72
His feet aren't bad either. Gets himself in the right positions to apply pressure
Re: someone educate me on joe joyce
Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 06:16
by bigjack
Did Miller call him 'The Brown Lurch' haha