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Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 16:12**

i mean i never treat the post fight claims of injury etc too seriously. it doesnt really make a big deal to me either way for how i view the fighter. but this defo sounds just like the typical thing that people usually throw 'excuse!!' at

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 16:13**

jamamb wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:12 i mean i never treat the post fight claims of injury etc too seriously. it doesnt really make a big deal to me either way for how i view the fighter. but this defo sounds just like the typical thing that people usually throw 'excuse!!' at

I mean, really? Why mention it if it wasn't an issue. That's loser talk, and I am a huge Wilder fan.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 16:14**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:06
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:05
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:01

He is. If he had a broken arm he couldn't have fought a 12 round fight. It don't take a genius to figure that out.
He did not claim that it is broken. He claims that it was broken months ago, prior to camp and they kept it hushed.
Well then it should've stayed hushed. If he was well enough to step into the ring, he was well enough not to make any excuses. Whether he's telling the truth or not is irrelevant. He stepped in the ring, he was ready to fight.

Frankly if it is true I don't know that it's smart to reveal. What's to stop a guy from pulling a Tyson/Botha on his ass, and twisting that arm a little in a clinch the next time they're in the ring with him. I'd do it. You tell me your weakness, and I'll take advantage.

Now the truth doesn’t matter?

I agree that bringing it up was poor strategy, but the truth most certainly does matter to me. If he is lying about something so easily proved or dispelled, it reflects poorly on him.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 16:17**

Wilder had his pinky toe swelled after he was trying to make his dreads.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 16:25**

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:17 Wilder had his pinky toe swelled after he was trying to make his dreads.

Atrollo rolling over for the crowd, again and again.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 17:12**

ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:14
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:06
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 16:05
He did not claim that it is broken. He claims that it was broken months ago, prior to camp and they kept it hushed.
Well then it should've stayed hushed. If he was well enough to step into the ring, he was well enough not to make any excuses. Whether he's telling the truth or not is irrelevant. He stepped in the ring, he was ready to fight.

Frankly if it is true I don't know that it's smart to reveal. What's to stop a guy from pulling a Tyson/Botha on his ass, and twisting that arm a little in a clinch the next time they're in the ring with him. I'd do it. You tell me your weakness, and I'll take advantage.
Now the truth doesn’t matter?

I agree that bringing it up was poor strategy, but the truth most certainly does matter to me. If he is lying about something so easily proved or dispelled, it reflects poorly on him.

The truth matters, but an excuse doesn't.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 17:32**

Remember wilder battering the mascot bare handed in the midst of his training camp. Seems like something you’d do if you were cautious about your arm.

Remember wilders throwing giant wild right hand haymakers all night.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 18:30**

Lem is a ridiculous shill. Not flat out disputing this but I wouldn't be surprised if it's bullshit.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 18:47**

..not sure why he brings this up, the deal was signed, this claim true or not is not relevant to the outcome..

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 19:48**

Once you step in the ring you are taking responsibility for your actions.
What happened in training camp may have an affect on you but it is not an excuse once you
step in that ring.
If it was a problem the fight should of been postponed. Since he didn't then to me it is just
a lame excuse. Like so many other fighters have used in the past.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 23:01**

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 19:48 Once you step in the ring you are taking responsibility for your actions.
What happened in training camp may have an affect on you but it is not an excuse once you
step in that ring.
If it was a problem the fight should of been postponed. Since he didn't then to me it is just
a lame excuse. Like so many other fighters have used in the past.

That is true. It does not mean that Wilder is lying though. Really lame if he is.

Posted: **04 Dec 2018, 23:02**

ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 23:01
tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 19:48 Once you step in the ring you are taking responsibility for your actions.
What happened in training camp may have an affect on you but it is not an excuse once you
step in that ring.
If it was a problem the fight should of been postponed. Since he didn't then to me it is just
a lame excuse. Like so many other fighters have used in the past.
That is true. It does not mean that Wilder is lying though. Really lame if he is.

Very lame if he is.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 00:55**

Has there been any report of this past the Floyd nuthugger saying it was in a text?

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 01:25**

"We don’t make excuses."
What's the moratorium on how long you have to wait to say you had an interfering injury before it isn't an excuse?

(3 minutes after the scores are announced)
"Hey uh... I've been keeping this a secret for a really long time, between the scorecards and now, because I didn't want to make any excuses. But I had an injury a while ago and it tangibly affected my performance, and I would've won if not for the injury. But no excuses, though. If I were making excuses, you'd know."

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 03:58**

Believable, but you'd have to say he's always come into fights with broken arms with that punching technique. His saving grace is leverage and punching through targets, otherwise the worst technique I've seen at the level.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 05:21**

“A lot of people don’t know that 12 weeks before camp I broke my arm. We kept that a secret. I had surgery and everything. I broke my arm from right here all the way to up here. I got cut [for the surgery,]” said Wilder, using his left pointer finger as part of his description to trace an area inside of his right arm from just above his wrist to just below the elbow.

“I was sparring and just getting ready. I was getting the best of my sparring partner. I was going to the body and he turned, and his elbow was out. My bone and his elbow went together like a hammer to a nail and it just broke it. We wanted to keep that sewed up. We don’t make excuses.”

I don’t believe any fighter enters the ring feeling 100% fully-fit without possessing niggling injuries or aches and pains of some sort.

However, if a fighter encounters an injury that is severe enough to adversely affect their performance inside the ring, to the point that it could potentially influence the outcome of the contest, then it’s their responsibility to cancel the bout, regardless of the commercial implications.

Any fighter that is arrogant enough to suffer a severe injury (assuming Wilder’s claims are true) and assume that they will win the contest regardless, should not attempt to cite this physical impediment as the sole reason for why they lost the bout. They do not deserve any sympathy.

I also feel that if Wilder’s claim about his broken arm is true, then he deserves to be sued, because he defrauded ticket buyers, television viewers and gamblers, due to Deontay’s dishonesty, since his entire team stated that he was fully-fit and punching so hard that he was actually injuring his coaches when they used the mitts during training.

People decided to invest their time and money into the Wilder-Fury event, based on the information that Deontay and his team conveyed to the media. If ‘The Bronze Bomber’ and his handlers withheld particularly pertinent details, then they not only defrauded the fight fans that invested their hard-earned cash into the event, but they also clearly profited from them.

On a separate note, Wilder hasn’t made it clear whether his team even notified VADA/CSAC of the injury he suffered during training camp… and if they did, we don’t know if they sanctioned the use of painkillers/non-steroidal anti-inflammatories immediately prior to entering the ring.

There’s a distinct lack of information relating to this situation, which makes me question Wilder’s honesty, because either there wasn’t an injury, or he’s embellished its severity. I suspect it's the latter, since I do recall seeing plasters on his right forearm whilst attending the publicity tour in the UK a couple of months ago.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 05:40**

I remember an interview with Fury just before the fight and he said 'him and Wilder know what happened' but when pressed on it Fury said he couldn't say anymore, I wonder if this is what he was referring to?

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 09:08**

Wow...there must not be one person in here with the faintest idea what fighters do, or are capable of. The shit written in this thread is embarrassing, disgraceful. Babbling about sympathy, lying, excuses, and lawsuits. Embarrassing. This thread is the saddest shit on this site since the life, death, and resurrection of Brut.

Fighters go in the ring with injuries every single day. If anyone here ever actually fought, they'd know that. Personally I've stepped into a ring with torn ligaments, broken bones, and I'm nothing, nobody, fighting for free. What happens to Wilders career if he backs out of this fight at the last minute? A fight he was more than comfortable taking on while recently injured (what a real fighter does, not that y'all could understand that mindset) and still nearly won? He could lose the chance at Fury, lose an unknown amount of future earnings, could be deemed unreliable by Eddie who already won't fight him and be shunned completely losing his blockbuster payday with AJ, absolutely destroyed in the media and on social media by the quivering hate filled cowards that attack him from every angle already. Let's be clear now. Wilder gave a little insight into his camp, immediately the bitches start crying foul, liar, no sympathy, sue him, Jesus that is pathetic. Usual suspects, spewing a lil extra, at their favorite target. By the way, I scored that fight wide for Fury, he won by 4 points at least. There is no debate, Wilder lost. Also noticed early on and had it confirmed later, the two times Wilder kept the elbow in threw the right hand with proper technique he dropped the guy. He was not throwing his right in the normal manner, and tried to end all exchanges with the left hook.. That is not what Wilder normally does. If you are really paying attention. So the signs were there, and to me it wasnt a surprise he brought up an injury after the fight. Something many, many fighters do or have done even the toughest ones. You chumps jump all over it, knowing absolutely nothing, choose to call it an excuse and call him a liar in the same breath lol he deserves no sympathy sue him wah wah wah.. there's a reason this site ain't what it was, never mind the inaccurate ranking system that's a peach compared to the dummies, the closet bigots, and the self appointed judge and jury act we got going here. Let's see how this plays out with all these internet claims, should be hilarious. Fuckin Dossers.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 11:29**

SFW wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 09:08 Wow...there must not be one person in here with the faintest idea what fighters do, or are capable of. The poo written in this thread is embarrassing, disgraceful. Babbling about sympathy, lying, excuses, and lawsuits.

Embarrassing. This thread is the saddest poo on this site since the life, death, and resurrection of Brut.

Fighters go in the ring with injuries every single day. If anyone here ever actually fought, they'd know that. Personally I've stepped into a ring with torn ligaments, broken bones, and I'm nothing, nobody, fighting for free.

What happens to Wilders career if he backs out of this fight at the last minute? A fight he was more than comfortable taking on while recently injured (what a real fighter does, not that y'all could understand that mindset) and still nearly won?

He could lose the chance at Fury, lose an unknown amount of future earnings, could be deemed unreliable by Eddie who already won't fight him and be shunned completely losing his blockbuster payday with AJ, absolutely destroyed in the media and on social media by the quivering hate filled cowards that attack him from every angle already.

Let's be clear now. Wilder gave a little insight into his camp, immediately the bitches start crying foul, liar, no sympathy, sue him, Jesus that is pathetic. Usual suspects, spewing a lil extra, at their favorite target. By the way, I scored that fight wide for Fury, he won by 4 points at least. There is no debate, Wilder lost.

Also noticed early on and had it confirmed later, the two times Wilder kept the elbow in threw the right hand with proper technique he dropped the guy. He was not throwing his right in the normal manner, and tried to end all exchanges with the left hook.. That is not what Wilder normally does. If you are really paying attention.

So the signs were there, and to me it wasnt a surprise he brought up an injury after the fight. Something many, many fighters do or have done even the toughest ones. You chumps jump all over it, knowing absolutely nothing, choose to call it an excuse and call him a liar in the same breath lol he deserves no sympathy sue him wah wah wah.. there's a reason this site ain't what it was, never mind the inaccurate ranking system that's a peach compared to the dummies, the closet bigots, and the self appointed judge and jury act we got going here.

Let's see how this plays out with all these internet claims, should be hilarious. Fuckin Dossers.

Great post!

I disagree with your card.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 12:17**

SFW wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 09:08 Wow...there must not be one person in here with the faintest idea what fighters do, or are capable of. The poo written in this thread is embarrassing, disgraceful. Babbling about sympathy, lying, excuses, and lawsuits. Embarrassing. This thread is the saddest poo on this site since the life, death, and resurrection of Brut.

Fighters go in the ring with injuries every single day. If anyone here ever actually fought, they'd know that. Personally I've stepped into a ring with torn ligaments, broken bones, and I'm nothing, nobody, fighting for free. What happens to Wilders career if he backs out of this fight at the last minute? A fight he was more than comfortable taking on while recently injured (what a real fighter does, not that y'all could understand that mindset) and still nearly won? He could lose the chance at Fury, lose an unknown amount of future earnings, could be deemed unreliable by Eddie who already won't fight him and be shunned completely losing his blockbuster payday with AJ, absolutely destroyed in the media and on social media by the quivering hate filled cowards that attack him from every angle already. Let's be clear now. Wilder gave a little insight into his camp, immediately the bitches start crying foul, liar, no sympathy, sue him, Jesus that is pathetic. Usual suspects, spewing a lil extra, at their favorite target. By the way, I scored that fight wide for Fury, he won by 4 points at least. There is no debate, Wilder lost. Also noticed early on and had it confirmed later, the two times Wilder kept the elbow in threw the right hand with proper technique he dropped the guy. He was not throwing his right in the normal manner, and tried to end all exchanges with the left hook.. That is not what Wilder normally does. If you are really paying attention. So the signs were there, and to me it wasnt a surprise he brought up an injury after the fight. Something many, many fighters do or have done even the toughest ones. You chumps jump all over it, knowing absolutely nothing, choose to call it an excuse and call him a liar in the same breath lol he deserves no sympathy sue him wah wah wah.. there's a reason this site ain't what it was, never mind the inaccurate ranking system that's a peach compared to the dummies, the closet bigots, and the self appointed judge and jury act we got going here. Let's see how this plays out with all these internet claims, should be hilarious. Fuckin Dossers.

GREAT POST !

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 12:34**

Utter utter bullshit.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 12:51**

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 12:34 Utter utter bullshit.

Quit hording the sour grapes, James.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 13:13**

ironbeard wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 11:29
SFW wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 09:08 Wow...there must not be one person in here with the faintest idea what fighters do, or are capable of. The poo written in this thread is embarrassing, disgraceful. Babbling about sympathy, lying, excuses, and lawsuits.

Embarrassing. This thread is the saddest poo on this site since the life, death, and resurrection of Brut.

Fighters go in the ring with injuries every single day. If anyone here ever actually fought, they'd know that. Personally I've stepped into a ring with torn ligaments, broken bones, and I'm nothing, nobody, fighting for free.

What happens to Wilders career if he backs out of this fight at the last minute? A fight he was more than comfortable taking on while recently injured (what a real fighter does, not that y'all could understand that mindset) and still nearly won?

He could lose the chance at Fury, lose an unknown amount of future earnings, could be deemed unreliable by Eddie who already won't fight him and be shunned completely losing his blockbuster payday with AJ, absolutely destroyed in the media and on social media by the quivering hate filled cowards that attack him from every angle already.

Let's be clear now. Wilder gave a little insight into his camp, immediately the bitches start crying foul, liar, no sympathy, sue him, Jesus that is pathetic. Usual suspects, spewing a lil extra, at their favorite target. By the way, I scored that fight wide for Fury, he won by 4 points at least. There is no debate, Wilder lost.

Also noticed early on and had it confirmed later, the two times Wilder kept the elbow in threw the right hand with proper technique he dropped the guy. He was not throwing his right in the normal manner, and tried to end all exchanges with the left hook.. That is not what Wilder normally does. If you are really paying attention.

So the signs were there, and to me it wasnt a surprise he brought up an injury after the fight. Something many, many fighters do or have done even the toughest ones. You chumps jump all over it, knowing absolutely nothing, choose to call it an excuse and call him a liar in the same breath lol he deserves no sympathy sue him wah wah wah.. there's a reason this site ain't what it was, never mind the inaccurate ranking system that's a peach compared to the dummies, the closet bigots, and the self appointed judge and jury act we got going here.

Let's see how this plays out with all these internet claims, should be hilarious. Fuckin Dossers.
Great post!

I disagree with your card.

Thank you, how did you score it? I said Fury by 4 points but I thought Fury won by at the very least 2 points.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 13:15**

dickbelden wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 12:17
SFW wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 09:08 Wow...there must not be one person in here with the faintest idea what fighters do, or are capable of. The poo written in this thread is embarrassing, disgraceful. Babbling about sympathy, lying, excuses, and lawsuits. Embarrassing. This thread is the saddest poo on this site since the life, death, and resurrection of Brut.

Fighters go in the ring with injuries every single day. If anyone here ever actually fought, they'd know that. Personally I've stepped into a ring with torn ligaments, broken bones, and I'm nothing, nobody, fighting for free. What happens to Wilders career if he backs out of this fight at the last minute? A fight he was more than comfortable taking on while recently injured (what a real fighter does, not that y'all could understand that mindset) and still nearly won? He could lose the chance at Fury, lose an unknown amount of future earnings, could be deemed unreliable by Eddie who already won't fight him and be shunned completely losing his blockbuster payday with AJ, absolutely destroyed in the media and on social media by the quivering hate filled cowards that attack him from every angle already. Let's be clear now. Wilder gave a little insight into his camp, immediately the bitches start crying foul, liar, no sympathy, sue him, Jesus that is pathetic. Usual suspects, spewing a lil extra, at their favorite target. By the way, I scored that fight wide for Fury, he won by 4 points at least. There is no debate, Wilder lost. Also noticed early on and had it confirmed later, the two times Wilder kept the elbow in threw the right hand with proper technique he dropped the guy. He was not throwing his right in the normal manner, and tried to end all exchanges with the left hook.. That is not what Wilder normally does. If you are really paying attention. So the signs were there, and to me it wasnt a surprise he brought up an injury after the fight. Something many, many fighters do or have done even the toughest ones. You chumps jump all over it, knowing absolutely nothing, choose to call it an excuse and call him a liar in the same breath lol he deserves no sympathy sue him wah wah wah.. there's a reason this site ain't what it was, never mind the inaccurate ranking system that's a peach compared to the dummies, the closet bigots, and the self appointed judge and jury act we got going here. Let's see how this plays out with all these internet claims, should be hilarious. Fuckin Dossers.
GREAT POST !

Thank you.. I've been waiting to use the word Dossers for awhile now so I'm happy.

Posted: **05 Dec 2018, 13:26**

SFW wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 13:13
ironbeard wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 11:29
SFW wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 09:08 Wow...there must not be one person in here with the faintest idea what fighters do, or are capable of. The poo written in this thread is embarrassing, disgraceful. Babbling about sympathy, lying, excuses, and lawsuits.

Embarrassing. This thread is the saddest poo on this site since the life, death, and resurrection of Brut.

Fighters go in the ring with injuries every single day. If anyone here ever actually fought, they'd know that. Personally I've stepped into a ring with torn ligaments, broken bones, and I'm nothing, nobody, fighting for free.

What happens to Wilders career if he backs out of this fight at the last minute? A fight he was more than comfortable taking on while recently injured (what a real fighter does, not that y'all could understand that mindset) and still nearly won?

He could lose the chance at Fury, lose an unknown amount of future earnings, could be deemed unreliable by Eddie who already won't fight him and be shunned completely losing his blockbuster payday with AJ, absolutely destroyed in the media and on social media by the quivering hate filled cowards that attack him from every angle already.

Let's be clear now. Wilder gave a little insight into his camp, immediately the bitches start crying foul, liar, no sympathy, sue him, Jesus that is pathetic. Usual suspects, spewing a lil extra, at their favorite target. By the way, I scored that fight wide for Fury, he won by 4 points at least. There is no debate, Wilder lost.

Also noticed early on and had it confirmed later, the two times Wilder kept the elbow in threw the right hand with proper technique he dropped the guy. He was not throwing his right in the normal manner, and tried to end all exchanges with the left hook.. That is not what Wilder normally does. If you are really paying attention.

So the signs were there, and to me it wasnt a surprise he brought up an injury after the fight. Something many, many fighters do or have done even the toughest ones. You chumps jump all over it, knowing absolutely nothing, choose to call it an excuse and call him a liar in the same breath lol he deserves no sympathy sue him wah wah wah.. there's a reason this site ain't what it was, never mind the inaccurate ranking system that's a peach compared to the dummies, the closet bigots, and the self appointed judge and jury act we got going here.

Let's see how this plays out with all these internet claims, should be hilarious. Fuckin Dossers.
Great post!

I disagree with your card.
Thank you, how did you score it? I said Fury by 4 points but I thought Fury won by at the very least 2 points.

I saw it the opposite. At least 8 rounds were VERY difficult to score and I went with Wilder for the majority of them. Combined with the KDs which were rounds that I had Fury winning, I had it 116-110.

If Fury would have stayed on his feet I would have likely had it even. I am going to watch it again and score the very close rounds even rather than trying to ferret out a reason to give it to one or the other.

I do believe that the commentating and the body language after rounds favored Fury. The difference for me and my card ended up being the KD rounds.

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