Jack Reiss Giving Tyson Fury Instructions in the Dressing Room *RARE FOOTAGE*

[TheGman]

Under normal circumstances , he would be blasted for allowing that , it appeared like Tyson was unconsious for a few seconds , If he would of got knocked down again , that ref would of been crucified , if he waived it off , people would of said thats fine , was it good refereeing , or lucky Tyson did'nt get hurt ,

You lot decide , i'm not sure

I would go with lucky tyson didnt get seriously hurt

He wasn’t unconious. He was on the floor with his eyes open.. looking at the ref. He was probably waiting and didn’t want to get up too quick.

Also, we know what happens when boxers get up to quick.

I think the fall seemed worse than it was because Tyson is a huge unit.

It wasnt like he was lyin there with straw in his mouth lookin up at the sun,he was a kip,ricky hatton was lying there with his eyes open after pacquiao so what was he waiting for lol. Fury was in the land of nod for at least 5 seconds.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I would go with lucky tyson didnt get seriously hurt

He wasn’t unconious. He was on the floor with his eyes open.. looking at the ref. He was probably waiting and didn’t want to get up too quick.

Also, we know what happens when boxers get up to quick.

I think the fall seemed worse than it was because Tyson is a huge unit.

It wasnt like he was lyin there with straw in his mouth lookin up at the sun,he was a kip,ricky hatton was lying there with his eyes open after pacquiao so what was he waiting for lol. Fury was in the land of nod for at least 5 seconds.

Hatton looked like he was staring at the clouds. Fury was looking at the ref.

[MightyWarrior]

I don’t dispute he did a good job in the Fury-Wilder fight.

But I just find it a little difficult to call him a “top man” when he has let fights go on far too long in the past and really put fighters safety at risk.

You’re not wrong, Reiss is as thick as a plank, he nearly got that fighter you mention above killed and it was so blindingly wrong and horrifying it clearly shows a man who’s not really working in a normal way.
He’s since been given hundreds of chances and obviously carefully instructed on how to check a fighter, by allowing him to walk up and down, to see if his legs are working, because I don’t think I’ve ever seen him stop a fight unless he’s counted the guy out.
Obviously worked out well for Tyson because this guy lets fights go on and on -he doesn’t really sense a boxer is in trouble unless the guy is lying on his back with his eyes closed.

[roy]

Reiss us generally a good ref. But you can't be giving fighters 22 seconds to recover from being starched. Fury gets up at 10, about 5 seconds are needed to assess if he's ok, at the most. If it was the other way around there would be uproar on here

that whole 'walk over there and then back' thing is increasingly common in the states these day and it defo takes more time then the old 'just stumble forward and give me your gloves ' thing. im not sure it was really reiss taking too long as opposed to it being part of the policy itself

lol there was certanly an uproar when wilder got 20 seconds extra between rounds vs ortiz i heard thats now a policy in some places for the doctors check to come after the initial 60 second break.

basically, it seems like in the us there have been some moves toward measures that are more safety oriented and give extra recovery time for fighters in trouble. in the moment itself it can seem like poor officiating or bias, but these things are being implemented system wide within certain areas

Nowadays it is typical for a boxer to be given 17-18 seconds to recover from a heavy knockdown, from the time of being floored to the time of being allowed to resume boxing. It used to always be that if a boxer wasn't ok to resume after 10 seconds then he was counted out or the ref stopped the fight. Asking a boxer to do the hokey-cokey before the fight resumes is a load of nonsense. If he's not fit to resume after 10 seconds the bout should be over. Of course sometimes there is a doubt, but if a boxer can't defend himself on resumption the ref can jump in straightaway.

I don't subscribe to the safety argument. You often see a fight that should be stopped, but the ref gives them extra time to recover and then sends them out to be flattened again. How is that beneficial to their health?


In some respects, I think it was better in the days before the compulsory 8 count, when the boxer decided for themselves if they were fit to continue i.e. by getting up before the count of 10. If they got up "too early" (i.e. they didn't give themselves time to recover) the fight could be stopped by the ref.