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diddy wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 03:16 How much money do you think that scumbag Don King paid those 2 judges in Tokyo to have Tyson LEADING on one card, and even on another heading into the 10th round? Douglas CLEARLY won 8 of the first 9 rounds. As easy a fight to score as there is. Tyson won the 8th only because of the KD. He was losing that round too. All Tyson had to do was get out of Tokyo on his 2 feet and he gets outta there with no worse than a draw. Just absurd. If it wasnt the "biggest upset in history" it wouldve instead been remembered as "the biggest robbery in history". Douglas was able to get Mike outta there and parlay that into a 24M payday against Holyfield before exiting the sport. Good for him.

jamamb wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 21:34 sooo overrated

ppl just lsten to what there told. far from the greatest 3 rounds. on what measures? not all that competitive....no momentum swings...no major comeback....no shock moment. hearns just gets beat down for most of the fight and you could see that coming when his legs almost immediately go to jelly

tyson-doug has been covered 111000000000000000 times

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 20:58

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 11:04

lazboy wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 05:11 Not sure if I’m alone but I can’t stand this fight. Brought up more than Hagler Hearns which is nothing compared to Leonard Hearns or Leonard Hagler.

agree, so overdone

hearns vs hagler is very overrated imo btw, its really just a one sided beatdown after like the first minute with no major drama turns or comeback etc. hearns legs just became rubbery so fast

guys are f’ng ridiculous. So you think the greatest upset in sports history and the greatest 3 round fight in history are overrated. How anyone can take ur opinions seriously after this would be another huge upset. Time to change ur user names AGAIN fellas.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 20:58

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 11:04

lazboy wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 05:11 Not sure if I’m alone but I can’t stand this fight. Brought up more than Hagler Hearns which is nothing compared to Leonard Hearns or Leonard Hagler.

agree, so overdone

hearns vs hagler is very overrated imo btw, its really just a one sided beatdown after like the first minute with no major drama turns or comeback etc. hearns legs just became rubbery so fast

You guys are f’ng ridiculous. So you think the greatest upset in sports history and the greatest 3 round fight in history are overrated. How anyone can take ur opinions seriously after this would be another huge upset. Time to change ur user names AGAIN fellas.

lazboy wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 23:39

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 20:58

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 11:04

agree, so overdone

hearns vs hagler is very overrated imo btw, its really just a one sided beatdown after like the first minute with no major drama turns or comeback etc. hearns legs just became rubbery so fast

You guys are f’ng ridiculous. So you think the greatest upset in sports history and the greatest 3 round fight in history are overrated. How anyone can take ur opinions seriously after this would be another huge upset. Time to change ur user names AGAIN fellas.

Have you seen the fight? No headmovement mike, no feet movement mike, no combo mike. It gets old fast.

jamamb wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 21:34 sooo overrated

ppl just lsten to what there told. far from the greatest 3 rounds. on what measures? not all that competitive....no momentum swings...no major comeback....no shock moment. hearns just gets beat down for most of the fight and you could see that coming when his legs almost immediately go to jelly

tyson-doug has been covered 111000000000000000 times

candyslim wrote: ↑14 Dec 2018, 19:19 I'm not having a go at anyone here but Caldo makes a very good point in that you had to have lived through it to fully appreciate Tyson's impact on the sport. At the time the guy was a monster from the the primordial swamp, the likes of which had never been seen before. A contemptuous sawn off piece of sheer malevolence that it appeared no one could or ever would stand up to.

Now when I look back with the benefit of hindsight and the perspective that brings, I can readily concede that Mike Tyson was not the greatest heavyweight of all time, maybe not in the top half dozen.

If I can think like that having experienced the rise of this seemingly unstoppable force, how easy then for younger fans who may be decent judges and who know their stuff, to watch the fights ten, twenty years later and wonder what all the fuss was about?

candyslim wrote: ↑14 Dec 2018, 19:19 I'm not having a go at anyone here but Caldo makes a very good point in that you had to have lived through it to fully appreciate Tyson's impact on the sport. At the time the guy was a monster from the the primordial swamp, the likes of which had never been seen before. A contemptuous sawn off piece of sheer malevolence that it appeared no one could or ever would stand up to.

Now when I look back with the benefit of hindsight and the perspective that brings, I can readily concede that Mike Tyson was not the greatest heavyweight of all time, maybe not in the top half dozen.

If I can think like that having experienced the rise of this seemingly unstoppable force, how easy then for younger fans who may be decent judges and who know their stuff, to watch the fights ten, twenty years later and wonder what all the fuss was about?

jamamb wrote: ↑14 Dec 2018, 21:25 im not saying whats the fuss about, or denying its significance, so caldo totally misses the point in responding to me. im saying its a fight thats been covered to death and weve all heard the story way too much for it to really carry the same intrigue it once had

jamamb wrote: ↑14 Dec 2018, 21:30 its still as good a win as it ever was, but the story and coverage has been done to death .pretty much anything becomes less interesting the 10000000000088th time, just a reality of life

jamamb wrote: ↑14 Dec 2018, 21:25 im not saying whats the fuss about, or denying its significance, so caldo totally misses the point in responding to me. im saying its a fight thats been covered to death and weve all heard the story way too much for it to really carry the same intrigue it once had

lazboy wrote: ↑14 Dec 2018, 20:15
I look at it from a hindesight perspective. Not to discredit Douglas who fought tremendously, fighting seemingly above himself, however it was a frustrating night for a Tyson fan as Tyson seemed to fight bellow himself. Then later came Tyson’s demise, the sparring video of him being dropped, his partying etc. Its still regarded as one of the biggest upsets and no doubt it was but in my opinion it diminishes better upsets which were better fights such as Leonard Hagler, Ali Liston, Ali foreman.

oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Dec 2018, 19:27
I agree Candy, having been well into my watching boxing years when Iron Mike came on the scene. But I find it interesting that Ali's win over Foreman never lost its sheen.