Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 19:04
Wilder also refuses to fight his number one contender.BigDoofus wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 18:48Because the other guy was being greedy with the purse split?
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Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 19:07
No one wants to see Wilder face anyone but Fury right now, so who gives a rats a$$?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 19:04Wilder also refuses to fight his number one contender.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 22:56
not true at all, aj vs wilder would be plenty welcomedoogiebe wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 19:07No one wants to see Wilder face anyone but Fury right now, so who gives a rats a$$?
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 23:10
It wasn’t a duck. A proper duck is when someone is ordered to face another fighter yet chooses a weaker, safer route for less reward.
For example, being ordered to fight David Price for the British Heavyweight title, and rejecting it to fight Martin Rogan for a lesser title ( Irish title? ) and less money. That was a duck, plain and simple. Why he ducked him then I’ll never know. His handlers were always very cautious though, even back to his amateur days ( two or could have been three pull outs against Tom Dallas of all people! )
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 23:11
It’s a bigger fight. Just as Joshua - Fury would be too.
Fury - Wilder wouldn’t do Joshua level numbers over here, despite the initial hype following their first fight.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 23:23
Surely people are not so stupid has to not think outside the box ,, Was the 50 mill offered , course it was , both sides confirmed it , But what about the other stuff , where was the fight going to be held , USA or UK , what about rematch clauses , , who was going to show it Sky , ESPN , Utube , , WHO , If it was'nt Sky would they sue AJ for breach of contract , and so on and so forth . .
It was all smoke and mirrors , , Now for me the main question is will Wilder duck this one with Fury , it was obvious they took Fury thinking they were grabbing a easy win and scoring brownie points for negotiations with AJ , but it backfired so now there in the position of AJ or Fury sort of box position you could say .
UNLESS.... Fury demands the rematch is in the UK , then Wilder is stuffed , he's just admitted to the world AJ and Hearn have approached his management and are desperate for the fight , Aj holds 3 belts and that alone says he should get at least 60-40 , if he (Wilder) does'nt take that he's blatantly ducking ... The only reason Fury should take a rematch in the states is bigger money ,, but he constantly says he does'nt care about money , so why go to the states , If Wilder refuses the UK it will be seen has a duck .
This admission of AJ being desperate for the fight really has shot himself in the foot , his handlesr should'nt let him any where near a microphone
It was all smoke and mirrors , , Now for me the main question is will Wilder duck this one with Fury , it was obvious they took Fury thinking they were grabbing a easy win and scoring brownie points for negotiations with AJ , but it backfired so now there in the position of AJ or Fury sort of box position you could say .
UNLESS.... Fury demands the rematch is in the UK , then Wilder is stuffed , he's just admitted to the world AJ and Hearn have approached his management and are desperate for the fight , Aj holds 3 belts and that alone says he should get at least 60-40 , if he (Wilder) does'nt take that he's blatantly ducking ... The only reason Fury should take a rematch in the states is bigger money ,, but he constantly says he does'nt care about money , so why go to the states , If Wilder refuses the UK it will be seen has a duck .
This admission of AJ being desperate for the fight really has shot himself in the foot , his handlesr should'nt let him any where near a microphone
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 02:31
Joshua v Fury is a 90k sellout as is Joshua v Wilder. Fury v Wilder isn't.oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 19:07No one wants to see Wilder face anyone but Fury right now, so who gives a rats a$$?
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 03:41
Mental comment. I’d imagine Tyson would bite his nose off on the street. He will be dirty, Big John will have drilled that into them all. Or taken his eye out.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 14:51He’d beat the shite out of both outside the ring, at the same time probably.mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 07:09He probably saw enough from the Fury fight to grow some balls.
No idea why he’d fear either in the ring.
Did Fury fear Price and Ustinov? He bottled them fights apparently.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 03:44
Rematch clause was a guaranteed $30m. At least $80m for 2 fights.coneye wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 23:23 Surely people are not so stupid has to not think outside the box ,, Was the 50 mill offered , course it was , both sides confirmed it , But what about the other stuff , where was the fight going to be held , USA or UK , what about rematch clauses , , who was going to show it Sky , ESPN , Utube , , WHO , If it was'nt Sky would they sue AJ for breach of contract , and so on and so forth . .
It was all smoke and mirrors , , Now for me the main question is will Wilder duck this one with Fury , it was obvious they took Fury thinking they were grabbing a easy win and scoring brownie points for negotiations with AJ , but it backfired so now there in the position of AJ or Fury sort of box position you could say .
UNLESS.... Fury demands the rematch is in the UK , then Wilder is stuffed , he's just admitted to the world AJ and Hearn have approached his management and are desperate for the fight , Aj holds 3 belts and that alone says he should get at least 60-40 , if he (Wilder) does'nt take that he's blatantly ducking ... The only reason Fury should take a rematch in the states is bigger money ,, but he constantly says he does'nt care about money , so why go to the states , If Wilder refuses the UK it will be seen has a duck .
This admission of AJ being desperate for the fight really has shot himself in the foot , his handlesr should'nt let him any where near a microphone
The offer came before Joshua signed a new contract with Sky.
A few of his fanatics couldn't see it, but Joshua was always going to fight the 39 year old much shorter Russian guy instead.
Enjoy Joshua-Whyte2 The Beef Returns in April.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 03:50
He wouldn't fight Wilder in the ring for $50m and you think he'd fight Wilder and Fury at the same time for nothing!!lillywhite14 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 14:51 He’d beat the shite out of both outside the ring, at the same time probably.
No idea why he’d fear either in the ring.
Are you being real or is this one of your sexual fantasies?
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 05:33
Take a breath man. Joshua and Wilder just haven't agreed terms that's all. Both sides have made offers, none of which have been accepted.BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 03:50He wouldn't fight Wilder in the ring for $50m and you think he'd fight Wilder and Fury at the same time for nothing!!lillywhite14 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 14:51 He’d beat the shite out of both outside the ring, at the same time probably.
No idea why he’d fear either in the ring.
Are you being real or is this one of your sexual fantasies?
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 06:32
Joshua is from da streets, Tyson is soft by comparison and was quite sheltered as a kid wasn’t he?mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 03:41Mental comment. I’d imagine Tyson would bite his nose off on the street. He will be dirty, Big John will have drilled that into them all. Or taken his eye out.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 14:51He’d beat the shite out of both outside the ring, at the same time probably.mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 07:09
He probably saw enough from the Fury fight to grow some balls.
No idea why he’d fear either in the ring.
Did Fury fear Price and Ustinov? He bottled them fights apparently.
His dad might be a bully but we are talking about blokes of equal size and strength here. Big John wouldn’t be so bad if faced with an equal match, much less so if he was faced with a bigger foe...
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 06:37
BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 03:50He wouldn't fight Wilder in the ring for $50m and you think he'd fight Wilder and Fury at the same time for nothing!!lillywhite14 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 14:51 He’d beat the shite out of both outside the ring, at the same time probably.
No idea why he’d fear either in the ring.
Are you being real or is this one of your sexual fantasies?
Says a man who’d happily feast on any of the Fury clans clangers! You boys have it bad
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 07:35
AJ v Wilder is bigger $$$ than AJ v Fury.
I still think that it could end up AJ v Fury next though.
I still think that it could end up AJ v Fury next though.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 07:57
Traveller camps are tougher than Watford.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 06:32Joshua is from da streets, Tyson is soft by comparison and was quite sheltered as a kid wasn’t he?mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 03:41Mental comment. I’d imagine Tyson would bite his nose off on the street. He will be dirty, Big John will have drilled that into them all. Or taken his eye out.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 14:51
He’d beat the shite out of both outside the ring, at the same time probably.
No idea why he’d fear either in the ring.
Did Fury fear Price and Ustinov? He bottled them fights apparently.
His dad might be a bully but we are talking about blokes of equal size and strength here. Big John wouldn’t be so bad if faced with an equal match, much less so if he was faced with a bigger foe...
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 08:07
Your argument is straight out of the playground.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 06:32Joshua is from da streets, Tyson is soft by comparison and was quite sheltered as a kid wasn’t he?mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 03:41Mental comment. I’d imagine Tyson would bite his nose off on the street. He will be dirty, Big John will have drilled that into them all. Or taken his eye out.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 14:51
He’d beat the shite out of both outside the ring, at the same time probably.
No idea why he’d fear either in the ring.
Did Fury fear Price and Ustinov? He bottled them fights apparently.
His dad might be a bully but we are talking about blokes of equal size and strength here. Big John wouldn’t be so bad if faced with an equal match, much less so if he was faced with a bigger foe...
It's a boxing forum. You might fantasise about Joshua out of the ring, but the fact is that $50m couldn't get him in the ring.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 08:28
Wilder was also offered big money. They just couldn't agree terms. No one's scared of anyone. It's boxing. They'll share a ring this April.BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:07Your argument is straight out of the playground.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 06:32Joshua is from da streets, Tyson is soft by comparison and was quite sheltered as a kid wasn’t he?mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 03:41
Mental comment. I’d imagine Tyson would bite his nose off on the street. He will be dirty, Big John will have drilled that into them all. Or taken his eye out.
His dad might be a bully but we are talking about blokes of equal size and strength here. Big John wouldn’t be so bad if faced with an equal match, much less so if he was faced with a bigger foe...
It's a boxing forum. You might fantasise about Joshua out of the ring, but the fact is that $50m couldn't get him in the ring.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 08:55
I Think that honour belongs to Riddick bowe https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/15/spor ... -belt.html
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 09:00
Its bizarre that the Fury lot even consider it.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:28Wilder was also offered big money. They just couldn't agree terms. No one's scared of anyone. It's boxing. They'll share a ring this April.BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:07Your argument is straight out of the playground.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 06:32
Joshua is from da streets, Tyson is soft by comparison and was quite sheltered as a kid wasn’t he?
His dad might be a bully but we are talking about blokes of equal size and strength here. Big John wouldn’t be so bad if faced with an equal match, much less so if he was faced with a bigger foe...
It's a boxing forum. You might fantasise about Joshua out of the ring, but the fact is that $50m couldn't get him in the ring.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 09:12
It's a shame how Bowe ended up, he was arguably the most talented heavyweight of that era but he let that twat Rock Newman have too much influence. Great fighter when his head was right.J wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:55I Think that honour belongs to Riddick bowe https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/15/spor ... -belt.html
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 09:16
I spoke to Bowe last year and he said, "Rock thought we were bigger than the WBC,"banjo wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 09:12It's a shame how Bowe ended up, he was arguably the most talented heavyweight of that era but he let that twat Rock Newman have too much influence. Great fighter when his head was right.J wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:55I Think that honour belongs to Riddick bowe https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/15/spor ... -belt.html
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 09:19
Joshua-Whyte2 The Beef Returns in April.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:28Wilder was also offered big money. They just couldn't agree terms. No one's scared of anyone. It's boxing. They'll share a ring this April.BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:07Your argument is straight out of the playground.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 06:32
Joshua is from da streets, Tyson is soft by comparison and was quite sheltered as a kid wasn’t he?
His dad might be a bully but we are talking about blokes of equal size and strength here. Big John wouldn’t be so bad if faced with an equal match, much less so if he was faced with a bigger foe...
It's a boxing forum. You might fantasise about Joshua out of the ring, but the fact is that $50m couldn't get him in the ring.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 09:21
No other boxer has ever turned down $50m.J wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:55I Think that honour belongs to Riddick bowe https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/15/spor ... -belt.html
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 09:21
Whyte is ranked #6 by BoxRec. There is no shame in them fighting again.BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 09:19Joshua-Whyte2 The Beef Returns in April.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:28Wilder was also offered big money. They just couldn't agree terms. No one's scared of anyone. It's boxing. They'll share a ring this April.
Re: Wilder Says............
Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 10:59
You claimed Joshua fights Wilder in April.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 09:21Whyte is ranked #6 by BoxRec. There is no shame in them fighting again.BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 09:19Joshua-Whyte2 The Beef Returns in April.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑13 Dec 2018, 08:28
Wilder was also offered big money. They just couldn't agree terms. No one's scared of anyone. It's boxing. They'll share a ring this April.