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Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 07 Feb 2019, 16:08
by Syntax Error
Flump wrote: 30 Dec 2018, 16:02
littlepug wrote: 30 Dec 2018, 15:58 Who was it that had Ray Leonard on Queer Street when he was getting ready for Hagler ?
Quincy Taylor
Leonard said he planned to go toe to toe with Hagler up until the moment Taylor downed him in sparring.

He said this made him change his strategy to the one he used in the fight.

I don't t believe Ray for one second.

The worse thing any fighter could do to the slowed down post '84 version of Hagler was to go toe to toe.

Hagler had gobbled up two very hard hitting MWs in his previous two fights and Leonard is trying to kid us that he was going to slug it out with Hagler?

Never, in my humble opinion.

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 09 Feb 2019, 12:54
by oogiebe

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 09 Feb 2019, 14:41
by Duran1970
Dempsey sparred Greb twice and got his ass kicked both times.

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 09 Feb 2019, 17:53
by Jacopodb
Duran1970 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 14:41 Dempsey sparred Greb twice and got his ass kicked both times.
Nice one: do you know where I could find some Harry Greb fighting footage (not training, please)?

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 09 Feb 2019, 17:54
by oogiebe
Jacopodb wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 17:53
Duran1970 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 14:41 Dempsey sparred Greb twice and got his ass kicked both times.
Nice one: do you know where I could find some Harry Greb fighting footage (not training, please)?
Same here. I can't any at all.

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 09 Feb 2019, 18:16
by Steveh583
I'm amazed no one has mentioned mayweather vs spadafora

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 09 Feb 2019, 19:03
by APerno
Greb kicking Dempsey's ass, maybe but unlikely, that is what is wrong about these gym war stories, they get legs under them and before you know it hundreds claim they saw it. In this business hanger-ons love to increase their own currency by claiming they saw this, or that they know that.

You look long enough you can find some A-hole claiming Dempsey has horse shoes in gloves vs Willard.

In the fight game old men spinning tales is as common as a politician lying.

What is interesting, is the game Doc Kearns played with Greb (used Greb) in the summer of '22, to screw with the NYSAC when Muldoon tried to strip Dempsey of the title for not fighting Wills. Kearns put on a (newspaper) pretense that he was arranging a Dempsey-Greb fight in Phliy for the title. Muldoon scared New York would lose the title bout backed off his threat.

Kearns never intended to match Dempsey against a middle weight. After that there was all this nonsense buzz that Dempsey was scared of the middle weight. Kearns was fishing around looking for a fight outside of New York so he could squeeze Rickard out of the picture. He got that fight in Shelby, and we all know how that fiasco worked out.

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 10 Feb 2019, 05:14
by Jacopodb
Steveh583 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 18:16 I'm amazed no one has mentioned mayweather vs spadafora
Did you know that "Spada fora" means "sword out" in a Central Italian dialect? Curious, for someone who's not a fencer.

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 10 Feb 2019, 10:59
by APerno
Jacopodb wrote: 10 Feb 2019, 05:14
Steveh583 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 18:16 I'm amazed no one has mentioned mayweather vs spadafora
Did you know that "Spada fora" means "sword out" in a Central Italian dialect? Curious, for someone who's not a fencer.
Cool, who knows what his great great grand daddy was up to; in a way maybe being a fighter he did carry on the family tradition. 250 years ago you probably didn't want to mess with a guy called spadafora.

There is a Brit, a Jack the Ripper historian and former PC named Donald Rumbelow; now that's a family history I could embrace. Just need to figure out which ship he was referring to.

My name in Spanish translates to "bolt." -- I tell people my gangster name is Tony the bolt. Sounds tough, doesn't it?

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 10 Feb 2019, 11:12
by oogiebe
What I wouldn't give for film on Foreman vs Liston sparring session.

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 10 Feb 2019, 12:42
by Dart340
One I heard about that isn't famous, but would've been a great one to see:
154 lb title challenged Tony "KO King" Gardner getting mad at 300+ pound Humphrey McBride for roughing him up during a sparring session and decided to cut loose on him which resulted in McBride getting knocked out and having to be revived by Pat O' Grady- who then promptly chewed Gardner out for being too rough on his "prospect".

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 10 Feb 2019, 17:56
by SenorPipino
Saw a terrific sparring session all those years ago at the fabled Main St. Gym in L.A.

Roberto Duran vs Danny Lopez. I wish I recorded it, but strangely no one seemed to have a cell phone. :oo

Took place in the late 1970s. I believe it was shortly before Duran's final fight with DeJesus. When Duran fought in Las Vegas, the Main St. Gym was always his gym of choice. For Lopez, the Main St. was his home base, since it was run by his manager Howie Steindler.

Word must have leaked out that the lightweight champion of the world was going to tangle with the featherweight champion of the world. I didn't know that it was going to happen. I just stumbled in on the right day.

The place was packed to the rafters. Hundreds of the curious turned out. Amazing that the floor of that ancient gym didn't collapse.

I think that the 2 champs went at it for 3 rounds and there was no holding back.

Duran had a reputation for being merciless on his sparring partners. Lopez, who I had seen spar countless times, was usually more laid back. But on that afternoon Lopez had to go full throttle if he wanted to survive.

Lopez pretty much gave as good as he got, despite Duran being bigger, stronger and noticeably quicker.

On several occasions, Duran's right hand to the head would send Lopez flying back to the ropes. But he also came charging back, showing no signs of intimidation. Lopez had a warrior's heart, no matter who was in the ring with him.

More than a few times, Lopez cracked Duran solidly, merely causing the Panamanian to snarl and let go with rapid combinations. Even though it was only sparring, when the 2 fighters were in close Duran would casually lift his shoulder and jam into Little Red's chin. You could hear Steindler swearing whenever Duran tried that.

I always remember that every time Duran punched he would emit this high pitched squeal. Almost a bird call. You never heard a sound from Lopez. Just his punches landing.

When the 9 minutes were over, the ferocious Duran suddenly brightened, broke into a big smile and hugged Lopez closely, apparently giving his approval of Little Red's efforts.

Lopez just nodded, grinned and tapped Duran on the head several times.

Two legendary guys putting on quite a show inside a legendary boxing gym.

And I feel privileged to have witnessed it. All for the price of admission: 50 cents.

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 10 Feb 2019, 18:41
by littlepug
SenorPipino wrote: 10 Feb 2019, 17:56 Saw a terrific sparring session all those years ago at the fabled Main St. Gym in L.A.

Roberto Duran vs Danny Lopez. I wish I recorded it, but strangely no one seemed to have a cell phone. :oo

Took place in the late 1970s. I believe it was shortly before Duran's final fight with DeJesus. When Duran fought in Las Vegas, the Main St. Gym was always his gym of choice. For Lopez, the Main St. was his home base, since it was run by his manager Howie Steindler.

Word must have leaked out that the lightweight champion of the world was going to tangle with the featherweight champion of the world. I didn't know that it was going to happen. I just stumbled in on the right day.

The place was packed to the rafters. Hundreds of the curious turned out. Amazing that the floor of that ancient gym didn't collapse.

I think that the 2 champs went at it for 3 rounds and there was no holding back.

Duran had a reputation for being merciless on his sparring partners. Lopez, who I had seen spar countless times, was usually more laid back. But on that afternoon Lopez had to go full throttle if he wanted to survive.

Lopez pretty much gave as good as he got, despite Duran being bigger, stronger and noticeably quicker.

On several occasions, Duran's right hand to the head would send Lopez flying back to the ropes. But he also came charging back, showing no signs of intimidation. Lopez had a warrior's heart, no matter who was in the ring with him.

More than a few times, Lopez cracked Duran solidly, merely causing the Panamanian to snarl and let go with rapid combinations. Even though it was only sparring, when the 2 fighters were in close Duran would casually lift his shoulder and jam into Little Red's chin. You could hear Steindler swearing whenever Duran tried that.

I always remember that every time Duran punched he would emit this high pitched squeal. Almost a bird call. You never heard a sound from Lopez. Just his punches landing.

When the 9 minutes were over, the ferocious Duran suddenly brightened, broke into a big smile and hugged Lopez closely, apparently giving his approval of Little Red's efforts.

Lopez just nodded, grinned and tapped Duran on the head several times.

Two legendary guys putting on quite a show inside a legendary boxing gym.

And I feel privileged to have witnessed it. All for the price of admission: 50 cents.
Fantastic, what a priceless memory, thanks for sharing

Re: Famous Sparring Sessions

Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 16:26
by Jacopodb
APerno wrote: 10 Feb 2019, 10:59
Jacopodb wrote: 10 Feb 2019, 05:14
Steveh583 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 18:16 I'm amazed no one has mentioned mayweather vs spadafora
Did you know that "Spada fora" means "sword out" in a Central Italian dialect? Curious, for someone who's not a fencer.
Cool, who knows what his great great grand daddy was up to; in a way maybe being a fighter he did carry on the family tradition. 250 years ago you probably didn't want to mess with a guy called spadafora.

There is a Brit, a Jack the Ripper historian and former PC named Donald Rumbelow; now that's a family history I could embrace. Just need to figure out which ship he was referring to.

My name in Spanish translates to "bolt." -- I tell people my gangster name is Tony the bolt. Sounds tough, doesn't it?
Might sound like some boxing nickname too: Tony "The Bolt" Something, for example.