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Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:50

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:34 He's better than vitali. Hilarious people think he's an atg with zero wins of note.

86 tyson also didnt beat anybody of note yet would arguably beat anybody ever

No argument he could ever beat evander. Tyson faced a murderers row compared to vitali. But Mike has no business on an atg poll.

Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 14:00

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:38

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:35
Why are you surprised? We've seen that over and over again! Super-hyped AJ. It's really not even fair to him to make those comps.

Vitali has to be the most overrated fighter ever.

Old tyson and close to prime holyfield had no chance, barly won single rounds against lewis. Vitaly won rounds against lewis, lewis was breathless, vitaly took everything from lewis, arguably best chin ever. and vitaly wasnt even at his peak against lewis. The version that slaughtered saunders would be a nightmare for any heavyeright ever

If he beats all the other top guys, and reigns for at least 9 or 10 years maybe...he's still got a long way to go on both fronts.

No.

Mike Tyson would have dispatched him similar to Frank Bruno.

Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 14:00

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:38

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:35
Why are you surprised? We've seen that over and over again! Super-hyped AJ. It's really not even fair to him to make those comps.

Vitali has to be the most overrated fighter ever.

Old tyson and close to prime holyfield had no chance, barly won single rounds against lewis. Vitaly won rounds against lewis, lewis was breathless, vitaly took everything from lewis, arguably best chin ever. and vitaly wasnt even at his peak against lewis. The version that slaughtered saunders would be a nightmare for any heavyeright ever

Lewis was out of breath, huffing and puffing after like Round 3 of his fight with Vitali. If THAT version of Lewis could beat Vitali, any version of Lewis could.

Holyfield would've kicked his ass. I could see Tyson struggling with him as tall guys with skill always gave him a hard time, but he'd give Vitali a lot of problems, and would've been tearing his body up. Vitali would've beat the Tyson that was around by the time he came into prominence though.

lol immediately starting this thread minutes after joining just stinks of wind up

jamamb wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 14:46 lol immediately starting this thread minutes after joining just stinks of wind up

It's also not a good sign when you ask about the best Heavyweight ever, and forget the previous 70 years of Boxing history prior to Ali.

Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 14:12 Usyk is techniquly superior to ali. Gets punched less than ali and could equal alis punching power if he puts on extra muscle

Did you join today because you woke up and decided to be a boxing fan? Or were you banned under a previous screen name.?

starts a thread trolling on aj to get negative 'hype!!' 'weak resume' responses, then starts one proclaiming wbc superiority, maybe im overthinking it but,, hmm, i think this guy is a fan of another hw more then aj

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 14:47

jamamb wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 14:46 lol immediately starting this thread minutes after joining just stinks of wind up

It's also not a good sign when you ask about the best Heavyweight ever, and forget the previous 70 years of Boxing history prior to Ali.

You know that boxing evolved. Marciano, dempsey or louis would now be light heavyweight or cruiserweight. I got respect for them, but physicly and height weight wise much to inferior.

why stupid topics usually get most replies?

this guys a troll whose been here several times i think

first day and already onto trolling aj to get negative responses ('over hyped aj'), puffing up the wbc, and povetkin (particturaly how so many picked pov over wilder and hated on wilder)

the same 3 way obsession the return troll always had

dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:16 why stupid topics usually get most replies?

LMFAO!! OMG it's so true!!!! Sometimes it's just a train wreck that you just can't turn away from.

dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:16 why stupid topics usually get most replies?

Right now, this topic is pointless. The question should be : "Does Joshua have a potential to become the top 10 HW since 1970"....

jamamb wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:19 this guys a troll whose been here several times i think

first day and already onto trolling aj to get negative responses ('over hyped aj'), puffing up the wbc, and povetkin (particturaly how so many picked pov over wilder and hated on wilder)

the same 3 way obsession the return troll always had

When did i said aj was over hyped?

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:20

dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:16 why stupid topics usually get most replies?

Right now, this topic is pointless. The question should be : "Does Joshua have a potential to become the top 10 HW since 1970"....

It's not fair to AJ at this time of his career to be discussing ATG status (again), PERIOD, THE END!

you started a thread that would obviously get those responses, its a common tactic to do for someone ppl dont like, make 'that side' look crazy and extreme and unreasonable

the patterns (aj, wbc (wilders org) is best, people hated on wilder for pov vs wilder) are too easy to spot and came out way too fast mate

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:22

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:20

dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:16 why stupid topics usually get most replies?

Right now, this topic is pointless. The question should be : "Does Joshua have a potential to become the top 10 HW since 1970"....

It's not fair to AJ at this time of his career to be discussing ATG status (again), PERIOD, THE END!

OK, you are right.

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:24

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:22

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:20

Right now, this topic is pointless. The question should be : "Does Joshua have a potential to become the top 10 HW since 1970"....

It's not fair to AJ at this time of his career to be discussing ATG status (again), PERIOD, THE END!

OK, you are right.

That wasn't at you Val...it was a general response, just to be clear.

I'll go back to BoxrecSim now, F this board........

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:25

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:24

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:22

It's not fair to AJ at this time of his career to be discussing ATG status (again), PERIOD, THE END!

OK, you are right.

That wasn't at you Val...it was a general response, just to be clear.

Yes, I have understood.

It's WAY too early to try and rate Joshua.
Better to wait until his career is over and then judge him.

Jesus wept

SteveO wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:58 It's WAY too early to try and rate Joshua.
Better to wait until his career is over and then judge him.

I make this argument anytime anybody ever tries to rank an active fighter in the annals of All Time status, but people just keep right on doing it anyway.

It would take an absolutely astonishing feat to be considered the best of all time while you were still active. It wouldn't be impossible I don't guess, but it's hard to imagine what kinda achievements you'd have to have under your belt to receive that kinda status while still an active fighter.

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:25

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:24

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:22

It's not fair to AJ at this time of his career to be discussing ATG status (again), PERIOD, THE END!

OK, you are right.

That wasn't at you Val...it was a general response, just to be clear.

arrogant as well. On top of the low boxing knowledge