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TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑15 Jan 2019, 15:15 Any odds for Garcia yet?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 14:20 When we have a poll locked this close- you know it's going to be a good fight
Can't wait!

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 14:37

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 14:20 When we have a poll locked this close- you know it's going to be a good fight
Can't wait!

How close was the Ritson-Patera poll? Can’t remember now.. this is similar.. but Ted is so far less accomplished than Ritson at this stage.

danilord wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:25 Its gonna be a easy victory for Garcia.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 05:46

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 03:54

Skalamanga wrote: ↑02 Jan 2019, 20:15 got a feeling Cheeseman is gona lose this one. It's at least a 50/50. I watched a couple of Garcia's fights a few months ago and he looks a future world champ to me.

Gonna be like Ritson vs. Patera this.

at least Ritson was a proven domestic level fighter.

What has Cheeseman actually done.. Garcia is no easy pickings for the Euro belt.

Ill tell ya what Cheeseman has done, he has been matched fairly hard, met the challenge and improved, fight by fight.
1, took the British WW strap off Ryan (14-1) in his 8th fight by stunning KO.
2, fought an oversized and very experienced Carson Jones in just his 12th pro outing and 22 years old, and beat him convincingly.
3, Solid wins against an unbeaten Upton, and good points win against Byfield, basically cleaning out the UK WW's (who still fight domestically) and now onto the Euro.
The guy is 15-0 and 23 years old. It's a very decent achievement.
Yes this could be a step to far, but where else is he gonna go?
The commonwealth is crap, that would be a step backwards, and how much do we love boxers taking the traditional path to a world title

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 03:36 When this fight was first announced, not many had seen Garcia. Myself included. Now I've watched him, it really is a 50/50 fight. I'm anticipating what Cheeseman's game plan will be.
He needs one in this.
I was thinking the other day it might go a bit like Postol/Taylor- as in Cheese gets schooled for the first 4-5 rounds. Garcia is a slick counter puncher (and Ted kinda isn't). Hopefully Ted's youth and engine can kick in before the midway point and win it through workrate.
I'm looking forward to the fight and I hope the scorecards reflect what we see, win or lose for Ted, it's a good learning experience.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 03:36 When this fight was first announced, not many had seen Garcia. Myself included. Now I've watched him, it really is a 50/50 fight. I'm anticipating what Cheeseman's game plan will be.
He needs one in this.
I was thinking the other day it might go a bit like Postol/Taylor- as in Cheese gets schooled for the first 4-5 rounds. Garcia is a slick counter puncher (and Ted kinda isn't). Hopefully Ted's youth and engine can kick in before the midway point and win it through workrate.
I'm looking forward to the fight and I hope the scorecards reflect what we see, win or lose for Ted, it's a good learning experience.

Coco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 06:47

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 03:36 When this fight was first announced, not many had seen Garcia. Myself included. Now I've watched him, it really is a 50/50 fight. I'm anticipating what Cheeseman's game plan will be.
He needs one in this.
I was thinking the other day it might go a bit like Postol/Taylor- as in Cheese gets schooled for the first 4-5 rounds. Garcia is a slick counter puncher (and Ted kinda isn't). Hopefully Ted's youth and engine can kick in before the midway point and win it through workrate.
I'm looking forward to the fight and I hope the scorecards reflect what we see, win or lose for Ted, it's a good learning experience.

A bit like Cheese,an, Garcia has never really stepped up, neither have earned this title. However both have looked great against lesser fighters and I'm looking forward to the fight, but who knows if either of them are any good.
Spanish fighters tend to be very protected, much more than in the UK. It's quite typical,to build up long unbeaten records fighting for peanuts at home, hoping to then get a call from abroad for a shot.

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Jan 2019, 02:40

Coco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 06:47

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 03:36 When this fight was first announced, not many had seen Garcia. Myself included. Now I've watched him, it really is a 50/50 fight. I'm anticipating what Cheeseman's game plan will be.
He needs one in this.
I was thinking the other day it might go a bit like Postol/Taylor- as in Cheese gets schooled for the first 4-5 rounds. Garcia is a slick counter puncher (and Ted kinda isn't). Hopefully Ted's youth and engine can kick in before the midway point and win it through workrate.
I'm looking forward to the fight and I hope the scorecards reflect what we see, win or lose for Ted, it's a good learning experience.

A bit like Cheese,an, Garcia has never really stepped up, neither have earned this title. However both have looked great against lesser fighters and I'm looking forward to the fight, but who knows if either of them are any good.
Spanish fighters tend to be very protected, much more than in the UK. It's quite typical,to build up long unbeaten records fighting for peanuts at home, hoping to then get a call from abroad for a shot.

real and beaussire are both ebu level wins, real was actually the former champ

NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑25 Jan 2019, 19:23 One of the most evenly spread fight outcome polls you'll see on here & I can understand why. Tricky to call.

Coco wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 10:13

NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑25 Jan 2019, 19:23 One of the most evenly spread fight outcome polls you'll see on here & I can understand why. Tricky to call.

While I consider myself a bit of a pundit I have no idea how it will go!
I'm going to guess that Cheesemen will win well because Eddie wouldn't have brought the Spaniard over to win!
But you can also look at what happened to Ritson, perhaps Hearn wants to start a boxing channel in Spain!

Coco wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 10:13

NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑25 Jan 2019, 19:23 One of the most evenly spread fight outcome polls you'll see on here & I can understand why. Tricky to call.

While I consider myself a bit of a pundit I have no idea how it will go!
I'm going to guess that Cheesemen will win well because Eddie wouldn't have brought the Spaniard over to win!
But you can also look at what happened to Ritson, perhaps Hearn wants to start a boxing channel in Spain!

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 14:22

Coco wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 10:13

NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑25 Jan 2019, 19:23 One of the most evenly spread fight outcome polls you'll see on here & I can understand why. Tricky to call.

While I consider myself a bit of a pundit I have no idea how it will go!
I'm going to guess that Cheesemen will win well because Eddie wouldn't have brought the Spaniard over to win!
But you can also look at what happened to Ritson, perhaps Hearn wants to start a boxing channel in Spain!

Well, he is starting Matchroom Italy. I presume Spain Vs Italy matchups would sell

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 14:22

Coco wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 10:13

NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑25 Jan 2019, 19:23 One of the most evenly spread fight outcome polls you'll see on here & I can understand why. Tricky to call.

While I consider myself a bit of a pundit I have no idea how it will go!
I'm going to guess that Cheesemen will win well because Eddie wouldn't have brought the Spaniard over to win!
But you can also look at what happened to Ritson, perhaps Hearn wants to start a boxing channel in Spain!

Well, he is starting Matchroom Italy. I presume Spain Vs Italy matchups would sell

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Jan 2019, 15:28 Had never heard of Garcia until the fight was announced, never heard of the fella he beat to win the title either, his record looks padded to say the least, a points win over Isaac Real is the only one that stands out for me, I remember Real fighting for the European a couple of times, apart from that the standard of fellas he's beat to get to 28-0 is honking

I like Cheeseman a lot, he done a number on Byfield to win the British and I know theres a few people saying he might be getting rushed a bit fighting for the European already but time will tell, Garcia's record might be rank so far but having never seen him its hard to tell how good he is, could it be another Patera/Ritson or Mimoune/Eggington?

Only 13 KOs in Garcia's 28 wins so doesn't look a puncher, if he's not strong then Cheeseman will walk right through him, I think Cheeseman has a bit more about him than Eggington and Ritson, I was impressed with the way he mixed up the power in his shots against Byfield which suggests he's not too gung ho and thinking about what he's doing

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 Jan 2019, 15:50

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Jan 2019, 15:28 Had never heard of Garcia until the fight was announced, never heard of the fella he beat to win the title either, his record looks padded to say the least, a points win over Isaac Real is the only one that stands out for me, I remember Real fighting for the European a couple of times, apart from that the standard of fellas he's beat to get to 28-0 is honking

I like Cheeseman a lot, he done a number on Byfield to win the British and I know theres a few people saying he might be getting rushed a bit fighting for the European already but time will tell, Garcia's record might be rank so far but having never seen him its hard to tell how good he is, could it be another Patera/Ritson or Mimoune/Eggington?

Only 13 KOs in Garcia's 28 wins so doesn't look a puncher, if he's not strong then Cheeseman will walk right through him, I think Cheeseman has a bit more about him than Eggington and Ritson, I was impressed with the way he mixed up the power in his shots against Byfield which suggests he's not too gung ho and thinking about what he's doing

Pretty fair analysis
Cheese is dangerous when he doesn't have respect for punch power. His fight against Upton being a perfect example. Upton never kept Cheese off him and shipped a lot of hard shots before being put to bed in the 4th, despite having the better skillset.