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Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 17:07
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 17:06
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 17:02
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 16:58
look
for example:
Jennings' votes: 13 15 15 11 11 - - - 12 15 15 15 14 15
Hughie's votes: 10 - - - - - - 12 10 10 - -11 13
Jennings' average: 14.6
Hughie average: 11
but 11 people voted on Jennings and only 6 voted for Hughie. that is why this method doesn't works in this case
Same can happen with the original scoring you showed, no?
of course not. in my system Jennings would have 135 points, Hughie would have 90 points
ok, go with yours!
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 17:23
by jamamb
note on jcs list that ajs the only boxer to have wins over multiple top ten rated boxers , and he has several
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 17:36
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Yeah, I'd be up for contributing to this. My top 15 is:
1. Anthony Joshua
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Dillian Whyte
5. Alexander Povetkin
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Kubrat Pulev
8. Jarrell Miller
9. Joseph Parker
10. Dominic Breazeale
11. Adam Kownacki
12. Agit Kabayel
13. Bryant Jennings
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Filip Hrgovic
Hunter, Hammer and Joyce the closest to making it of the rest.
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 09:14
by dagilechia
After 4 votes the list looks like this:
1.Anthony Joshua - 160 points
2.Tyson Fury - 140 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 125 points
4.Luis Ortiz - 105 points
5. Alexander Povetkin and Dillian Whyte - 104 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 88 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 82 points
9.Joseph Parker - 76 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 59 points
11.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
12.Bryant Jennings and Dereck Chisora - 47 points
14.Adam Kownacki - 46 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 25 points
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16.Marco Huck - 12 points
17.Michael Hunter and Hughie Fury - 10 points
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:17
by ValMar
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 09:14
After 4 votes the list looks like this:
1.Anthony Joshua - 160 points
2.Tyson Fury - 140 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 125 points
4.Luis Ortiz - 105 points
5. Alexander Povetkin and Dillian Whyte - 104 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 88 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 82 points
9.Joseph Parker - 76 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 59 points
11.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
12.Bryant Jennings and Dereck Chisora - 47 points
14.Adam Kownacki - 46 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 25 points
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16.Marco Huck - 12 points
17.Michael Hunter and Hughie Fury - 10 points
OK, I expect more posters to make their lists, this is pretty interesting................
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:19
by dagilechia
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:17
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 09:14
After 4 votes the list looks like this:
1.Anthony Joshua - 160 points
2.Tyson Fury - 140 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 125 points
4.Luis Ortiz - 105 points
5. Alexander Povetkin and Dillian Whyte - 104 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 88 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 82 points
9.Joseph Parker - 76 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 59 points
11.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
12.Bryant Jennings and Dereck Chisora - 47 points
14.Adam Kownacki - 46 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 25 points
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16.Marco Huck - 12 points
17.Michael Hunter and Hughie Fury - 10 points
OK, I expect more posters to make their lists, this is pretty interesting................
me too

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:23
by ValMar
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:19
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:17
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 09:14
After 4 votes the list looks like this:
1.Anthony Joshua - 160 points
2.Tyson Fury - 140 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 125 points
4.Luis Ortiz - 105 points
5. Alexander Povetkin and Dillian Whyte - 104 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 88 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 82 points
9.Joseph Parker - 76 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 59 points
11.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
12.Bryant Jennings and Dereck Chisora - 47 points
14.Adam Kownacki - 46 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 25 points
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16.Marco Huck - 12 points
17.Michael Hunter and Hughie Fury - 10 points
OK, I expect more posters to make their lists, this is pretty interesting................
me too
I am waiting................

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:29
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:19
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:17
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 09:14
After 4 votes the list looks like this:
1.Anthony Joshua - 160 points
2.Tyson Fury - 140 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 125 points
4.Luis Ortiz - 105 points
5. Alexander Povetkin and Dillian Whyte - 104 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 88 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 82 points
9.Joseph Parker - 76 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 59 points
11.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
12.Bryant Jennings and Dereck Chisora - 47 points
14.Adam Kownacki - 46 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 25 points
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16.Marco Huck - 12 points
17.Michael Hunter and Hughie Fury - 10 points
OK, I expect more posters to make their lists, this is pretty interesting................
me too
me three.
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:55
by dagilechia
when we determine the top 15 then we will switch to the former system when jezzamundo held his own ranking (after a fight, where would you rank fighter A and where fighter B)
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:56
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:55
when we determine the top 15 then we will switch to the former system when jezzamundo held his own ranking (after a fight, where would you rank fighter A and where fighter B)
Sounds good, but I'll need a refresher on that. Maybe also you should rename the thread?
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:01
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:56
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:55
when we determine the top 15 then we will switch to the former system when jezzamundo held his own ranking (after a fight, where would you rank fighter A and where fighter B)
Sounds good, but I'll need a refresher on that. Maybe also you should rename the thread?
as an example look at this voting thread
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=209479
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:05
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:01
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:56
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:55
when we determine the top 15 then we will switch to the former system when jezzamundo held his own ranking (after a fight, where would you rank fighter A and where fighter B)
Sounds good, but I'll need a refresher on that. Maybe also you should rename the thread?
as an example look at this voting thread
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=209479
Oh, Ok, that's easy. (can't wait for the debates!)
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:07
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:05
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:01
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:56
Sounds good, but I'll need a refresher on that. Maybe also you should rename the thread?
as an example look at this voting thread
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=209479
Oh, Ok, that's easy. (can't wait for the debates!)
yes i loved these topics and i have always participated in them that's why i'm trying to reactivate it, i miss them

i expect there will be at least 10-15 votes before the next fight at HW (not much time left...)
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:23
by Boxing Writer
1. Anthony Joshua
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Dillian Whyte
5. Alexander Povetkin
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Kubrat Pulev
8. Jarrell Miller
9. Joseph Parker
10. Michael Hunter
11. Dominic Breazeale
12. Adam Kownacki
13. Joe Joyce
14. Bryant Jennings
15. Hughie Fury
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:35
by dagilechia
so now it's:
1. Anthony Joshua - 200 points
2.Tyson Fury - 175 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 157 points
4.Dillian Whyte - 133 points
5.Alexander Povetkin - 130 points
6.Luis Ortiz - 129 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 108 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 104 points
9.Joseph Parker - 94 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 73 points
11.Adam Kownacki - 59 points
12.Bryant Jennings - 58 points
13.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
14.Dereck Chisora - 47 points
15.Michael Hunter - 26 points
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16.Agit Kabayel - 25 points
17.Hughie Fury - 20 points
18.Joe Joyce and Marco Huck - 12 points
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:44
by ValMar
Don't forget : Usyk is coming...............
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:45
by dagilechia
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:44
Don't forget : Usyk is coming...............
i know, i know, and i can't wait

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:49
by ValMar
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:45
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:44
Don't forget : Usyk is coming...............
i know, i know, and i can't wait
This year might be very hot at HW. There is only one person on the earth who can fukc everything - Hearn, of course.
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:52
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:49
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:45
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:44
Don't forget : Usyk is coming...............
i know, i know, and i can't wait
This year might be very hot at HW. There is only one person on the earth who can fukc everything - Hearn, of course.
LMAO! UGH! PROMOTERS!
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:55
by jamamb
1 aj
2 fury
3 wilder
4 whyte
5 ort
6 pov
7 miller
8 pulev
9 parker
10 brezeale
11 kownacki
12 jennings
13 kabayel
14 hammer
15 chisora
to me a limited but tested guy like hammer deserves it more then a guy like hrgovic even though hrg might have a higher potential
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:59
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 12:55
1 aj
2 fury
3 wilder
4 whyte
5 ort
6 pov
7 miller
8 pulev
9 parker
10 brezeale
11 kownacki
12 jennings
13 kabayel
14 hammer
15 chisora
to me a limited but tested guy like hammer deserves it more then a guy like hrgovic even though hrg might have a higher potential
LOL! This is going to be good!

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:13
by dagilechia
after 6 votes:
1. Anthony Joshua - 240 points
2.Tyson Fury - 210 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 189 points
4.Dillian Whyte - 162 points
5.Luis Ortiz - 155 points
6.Alexander Povetkin - 154 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 130 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 124 points
9.Joseph Parker - 112 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 89 points
11.Adam Kownacki - 73 points
12.Bryant Jennings - 71 points
13.Dereck Chisora - 57 points
14.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 37 points
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16.Michael Hunter - 26 points
17.Hughie Fury - 20 points
18.Joe Joyce and Marco Huck - 12 points
20.Christian Hammer - 11 points
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:14
by ElJefe
Off the top of my head I'd go with:
1. Anthony Joshua (4, 5, 9, 10)
2. Tyson Fury (14x2, 3)
3. Deontay Wilder (6, 2)
4. Dillian Whyte (9, 14x2, 1)
5. Alexander Povetkin (1)
6. Luis Ortiz (13)
7. Jarrell Miller
8. Kubrat Pulev (14)
9. Joseph Parker (1, 4)
10. Dominic Breazeale (1)
11. Adam Kownacki
12. Agit Kabayel (14)
13. Bryant Jennings
14. Dereck Chisora (2x2, 4x2, 8, 12)
15. Filip Hrgovic
Hunter, Hammer and Fury just miss out. I might update later with a 15-20.
It's only when you note which other fighters in the top 15 these guys have beat that you realise how weak a lot of their resumes are.
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:16
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:13
after 6 votes:
1. Anthony Joshua - 240 points
2.Tyson Fury - 210 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 189 points
4.Dillian Whyte - 162 points
5.Luis Ortiz - 155 points
6.Alexander Povetkin - 154 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 130 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 124 points
9.Joseph Parker - 112 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 89 points
11.Adam Kownacki - 73 points
12.Bryant Jennings - 71 points
13.Dereck Chisora - 57 points
14.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 37 points
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16.Michael Hunter - 26 points
17.Hughie Fury - 20 points
18.Joe Joyce and Marco Huck - 12 points
20.Christian Hammer - 11 points
OMG! Kabayel? He sucks! Slow; no big punch; no defense; no decent opponent; not enough activity...GAWSH!
![[icon_knockout.gif] :KO:](./images/smilies/icon_knockout.gif)
Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:18
by oogiebe
ElJefe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:14
Off the top of my head I'd go with:
1. Anthony Joshua
(W 4, 5, 9, 10)
2. Tyson Fury
(W 14x2, D 2)
3. Deontay Wilder
(W 6, D 2)
4. Dillian Whyte
(W 9, 14x2, L 1)
5. Alexander Povetkin
(L 1)
6. Luis Ortiz
(W 13)
7. Jarrell Miller
8. Kubrat Pulev
(W 14)
9. Joseph Parker
(L 1, 4)
10. Dominic Breazeale
(L 1)
11. Adam Kownacki
12. Agit Kabayel
(W 14)
13. Bryant Jennings
14. Dereck Chisora
(L 2x2, 4x2, 8, 12)
15. Filip Hrgovic
Hunter, Hammer and Fury just miss out. I might update later with a 15-20.
It's only when you note which other fighters in the top 15 these guys have beat that you realize how weak a lot of their resumes are.
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Yup. After 6 or 7 it's a crapshoot.