WOW GGG vs Canelo III starting talks for Cinco de Mayo ; The best fight for Golovkin, period!

[caldo2025]

Golovkin's already beaten him twice, and been told he didn't win. I have no interest in seeing this fight again. They'll never give Golovkin a fair shake. Even if he knocks out Canelo they'd probably find a way to disqualify him.

I’d prefer to not have a constant reminder of being porked in front of the world three times. I think that I’m 20 years, GGG will admit that he regrets taking the Canelo fights.

The truly great boxers are in it for legacy and GGG’s legacy has been demolished with these horrific decisions with Canelo. Sure, most boxers would prefer money but there are some that prefer to have their place in history.

Couldn’t agree more. I’d never sign a fight with Canelo. There’s no way to beat him because he can’t be ko’d. Judges will never allow him a loss on cards. No shot

GGG has his legacy ripped from him twice bc he chose money and I’d say in 20 years, GGG will probably admit that he was naive in his thinking that he’d get a fair shake in these fights. Because of those Canelo decisions, GGG will struggle to get into these ATG conversations. To me, that would bother me forever and money is fleeting. History is forever.

I'd rather take a fight I'd lose for 20 Million than a fight I'd win for 4 Million personally, but that's me, and apparently a lot of other guys too.

At the end of it all the money is what it's all about.

[gilgamesh]

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Golovkin and his family are set for life. There is no reason to deal with Canelo/DLH and their Vegas gang of crooks.

There's Million$$$$ of reasons to deal with them.

Not if you have pride.

Golovkin has pride obviously, and I'm sure he wants to avenge those first 2 fights, and genuinely believes he's capable of doing so. The money ain't hurting his feelings either.

Professionals fight for money. If you can make more money to fight 1 guy than you could make to fight 5 other guys, why the hell wouldn't you do that?

To impress a few guys on the internet who think you shouldn't?

Are those guys gonna be paying your bills when it's all said and done?

[gilgamesh]

I’d prefer to not have a constant reminder of being porked in front of the world three times. I think that I’m 20 years, GGG will admit that he regrets taking the Canelo fights.

The truly great boxers are in it for legacy and GGG’s legacy has been demolished with these horrific decisions with Canelo. Sure, most boxers would prefer money but there are some that prefer to have their place in history.

Couldn’t agree more. I’d never sign a fight with Canelo. There’s no way to beat him because he can’t be ko’d. Judges will never allow him a loss on cards. No shot

I'd rather take a fight I'd lose for 20 Million than a fight I'd win for 4 Million personally, but that's me, and apparently a lot of other guys too.

At the end of it all the money is what it's all about.

Generally the biggest money bouts, and the legacy defining bouts are one and the same. There's no bigger win Golovkin could score at Middleweight than Canelo so he's going after both.

[boxing_rocks]

There's Million$$$$ of reasons to deal with them.

Not if you have pride.

Golovkin has pride obviously, and I'm sure he wants to avenge those first 2 fights, and genuinely believes he's capable of doing so.

He believed that he could avenge the first "draw" where he won 8-9 rounds. After the second robbery, he clearly understands that he can't get a decision against Canelo in Western hemisphere. He is not getting any healthier or stronger, so he figured out that he can't stop the cheater.

... and once again, he doesn't need anybody's help to pay his bills. He has Million$$$$$ of reasons in his bank accounts to not step on his pride again.

[gilgamesh]

Not if you have pride.

Golovkin has pride obviously, and I'm sure he wants to avenge those first 2 fights, and genuinely believes he's capable of doing so.

He believed that he could avenge the first "draw" where he won 8-9 rounds. After the second robbery, he clearly understands that he can't get a decision against Canelo in Western hemisphere. He is not getting any healthier or stronger, so he figured out that he can't stop the cheater.

... and once again, he doesn't need anybody's help to pay his bills. He has Million$$$$$ of reasons in his bank accounts to not step on his pride again.

If he gives another effort where people believe he won, and the judges disagree due to corruption how exactly does that make him a lesser man?

[boxing_rocks]

Golovkin has pride obviously, and I'm sure he wants to avenge those first 2 fights, and genuinely believes he's capable of doing so.

He believed that he could avenge the first "draw" where he won 8-9 rounds. After the second robbery, he clearly understands that he can't get a decision against Canelo in Western hemisphere. He is not getting any healthier or stronger, so he figured out that he can't stop the cheater.

... and once again, he doesn't need anybody's help to pay his bills. He has Million$$$$$ of reasons in his bank accounts to not step on his pride again.

If he gives another effort where people believe he won, and the judges disagree due to corruption how exactly does that make him a lesser man?

You have never been treated unfairly? Don't you know how it feels? It has been 4 months since his last fight, and we don't even know if they are contacting any potential opponents. This has never happened before. At most a month after his fights, we always knew that they were negotiating with somebody or had a next fight scheduled. Golovkin's love to boxing was clearly affected by this fraud.

[oogiebe]

He believed that he could avenge the first "draw" where he won 8-9 rounds. After the second robbery, he clearly understands that he can't get a decision against Canelo in Western hemisphere. He is not getting any healthier or stronger, so he figured out that he can't stop the cheater.

... and once again, he doesn't need anybody's help to pay his bills. He has Million$$$$$ of reasons in his bank accounts to not step on his pride again.

If he gives another effort where people believe he won, and the judges disagree due to corruption how exactly does that make him a lesser man?

You have never been treated unfairly? Don't you know how it feels? It has been 4 months since his last fight, and we don't even know if they are contacting any potential opponents. This has never happened before. At most a month after his fights, we always knew that they were negotiating with somebody or had a next fight scheduled. Golovkin's love to boxing was clearly affected by this fraud.

It made Hagler retire.

[gilgamesh]

He believed that he could avenge the first "draw" where he won 8-9 rounds. After the second robbery, he clearly understands that he can't get a decision against Canelo in Western hemisphere. He is not getting any healthier or stronger, so he figured out that he can't stop the cheater.

... and once again, he doesn't need anybody's help to pay his bills. He has Million$$$$$ of reasons in his bank accounts to not step on his pride again.

If he gives another effort where people believe he won, and the judges disagree due to corruption how exactly does that make him a lesser man?

You have never been treated unfairly? Don't you know how it feels? It has been 4 months since his last fight, and we don't even know if they are contacting any potential opponents. This has never happened before. At most a month after his fights, we always knew that they were negotiating with somebody or had a next fight scheduled. Golovkin's love to boxing was clearly affected by this fraud.

Of course I've been treated unfairly. I never got paid millions of dollars in the process though.

[Onekrazyrican]

The saddest thing imo is that getting the W actually hurt Canelo. He did awesome in that second fight. Fought GGG toe to toe and was on even terms throught the whole fight. They gave him the W and it just made people hate his guts. Had he came up short I think people would be praising him. Heck look at Gabriel Rosado and how well it went for him after looking good for a couple of rounds with G.

This might be good for a different thread but I really hope DLH or another promoter with power starts eliminating the ridiculous idea casual fans have that you cant be great if youre not undefeated. Its killing the sport, forcing promoters to create that illusion.

Canelo would be perfect for that. Hes an exiting young fighter. Even if he had official losses to G and Lara hes proven good enough to be in the conversation of about whos the top middleweight today. Let the guy take the L then get him back in line. Have his next DAZN fights showcase his road back to the title picture. People will watch for sure. They might even root for him...

[oogiebe]

The saddest thing imo is that getting the W actually hurt Canelo. He did awesome in that second fight. Fought GGG toe to toe and was on even terms throught the whole fight. They gave him the W and it just made people hate his guts. Had he came up short I think people would be praising him. Heck look at Gabriel Rosado and how well it went for him after looking good for a couple of rounds with G.

This might be good for a different thread but I really hope DLH or another promoter with power starts eliminating the ridiculous idea casual fans have that you cant be great if youre not undefeated. Its killing the sport, forcing promoters to create that illusion.

Canelo would be perfect for that. Hes an exiting young fighter. Even if he had official losses to G and Lara hes proven good enough to be in the conversation of about whos the top middleweight today. Let the guy take the L then get him back in line. Have his next DAZN fights showcase his road back to the title picture. People will watch for sure. They might even root for him...

Nice post. Very true in this 'guarded' landscape. Very few ATG's had no losses, in fact, only two come to mind right off the cuff. Also, casuals like comeback stories, so losses can be positive in that regard. UGH...Ali lost; Louis lost; monzon lost; haggler lost; leonard lost; hearns lost; duran lost; Foreman; frazier; Lewis; Cervantes; Olivares; Arguello; Greb, ffs...etc, etc, etc.

[Onekrazyrican]

Yes you are right! Im not sure if it started with DLH or maybe a little earlier with Chavez and his monstrous unbeaten streak but it was definitely taken to a whole new level by Floyd... Im going off topic here i guess I better start another thread

[Cent0089]

If i would be on Canelo place i would go for Lara rematch. He would murder him now and it will help his reputation massively, despite i think he won against that runner. Also agree with poster above me about winning second fight with GGG was bad for Alvarez in eyes of fans. He should lost first fight and won the second. In that case, third fight would be real blockbuster. De la Hoya is cancer of boxing

[oogiebe]

If i would be on Canelo place i would go for Lara rematch. He would murder him now and it will help his reputation massively, despite i think he won against that runner. Also agree with poster above me about winning second fight with GGG was bad for Alvarez in eyes of fans. He should lost first fight and won the second. In that case, third fight would be real blockbuster. De la Hoya is cancer of boxing

Good points, especially on GGG's loss in second fight being bad for Canelo. I just don't know what De la Hoya is thinking aside from the short-term monies.

[caldo2025]

If i would be on Canelo place i would go for Lara rematch. He would murder him now and it will help his reputation massively, despite i think he won against that runner. Also agree with poster above me about winning second fight with GGG was bad for Alvarez in eyes of fans. He should lost first fight and won the second. In that case, third fight would be real blockbuster. De la Hoya is cancer of boxing

Oscar is a piece of garbage. But this cancer spread from the spawn of the disease, Floyd Mayweather Jr. It’s the same cast of characters in Vegas that Floyd used for all of his big dollar fights in the last decade of his career. Just like Floyd, you won’t see a Canelo fight without Dave Moretti as one of the judges. How they let these boxers have their own personal judges is beyond me. Ah I could go on but who really cares? There’s nothing can be done about it so just as with Floyd, I have to hope Canelo gets knocked out because he’s never losing a decision until Vegas expunges the last dollar out of him.