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joshj909 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 18:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:55

joshj909 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:54 Canelo by robbery

That would completely suck.

It would probably be the last Canelo fight i watch if it happens.

You know...me too. That shvt gets too frustrating.

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 18:04

littlepug wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:59

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:33
Yeah, it's been one of my gripes with GBP. Lack of big men.

Us little fellas need some love too man lol !

Of course! It would just be great if GBP had more balanced cards. That's all!

Yeah suppose you need a bit for everyone

Very brave/confident of Canelo to accept this fight. Canelo struggles with boxers and Jacobs has a sizeable reach, height and probably strength advantage. Hand speed should be pretty even but Jacobs is a better mover. Jacobs also knows how to manage a 12 round fight. I really like Jacobs to pull this off!

He’s seen Jacobs last couple of fights where he barely made it to the 12th round bell. Canelo will knock out Jacobs. No question but I like the fight

Will be an quite even, tough, good fight but sadly jacobs - whom i'd favor to win a fairly judged fight on points - only chance to get the win is to knock canelo out.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:38

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:31 canelo fighting the best is par 4 da course

Yup, in he isn't there already he's very close to the all-time Mexican top 10. Definitely higher than finito who people adore with that weird I'm going to overrate a strawweight to prove I care about them syndrome.

Canelo is definitely #1 are you kidding? No doubt. Wait, you were talking about the rankings of most fraudulent scores by judges in history or did I misread something somewhere?

lol who said hes #1?

Pity Canelo is a scumbag drug cheat, I could quite like him otherwise.

Ranking canelo top mexican fighter of all time just shows one thing: absolute cluelesness about boxing history. Rightaway ridiculous.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 18:53 Pity Canelo is a scumbag drug cheat, I could quite like him otherwise.

Tell us how you really feel...

Good solid, interesting fight. I felt like Jacobs struggled with Devenchenko. At the time I believe I had it a draw or one point either way. Canelo is much stronger, much more experienced and knows that he won't be penalised for taking a patient approach (in terms of judges scorecards), so he doesn't need to be walking forward the whole time essentially walking into a Jacobs jab or straight. Although still interesting, I have Jacobs a considerable underdog. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Canelo late stoppage of Jacobs. Looking forward to it nonetheless. Maybe Jacobs can pull out another heroic performance as you'd imagine he would be properly motivated.

Derevyanchenko is a good fighter who'd beat plenty of good middleweights. That was a tough fight but a very good win for Jacobs imo. That said, he hasn't reached the level of performance from when he fought Golovkin. Maybe that was a once in a lifetime type performance. Maybe he's on the slide. Maybe he needs the fear factor. Either way, he's a very good fighter who possesses plenty of attributes that have given Canelo trouble before. Good mover, quick feet, quick hands, reach advantage etc. Was hit plenty by Sulecki and Derevyanchenko though, he doesn't want to be taking those shots off Alvarez.

ElJefe wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 21:28 Derevyanchenko is a good fighter who'd beat plenty of good middleweights. That was a tough fight but a very good win for Jacobs imo. That said, he hasn't reached the level of performance from when he fought Golovkin. Maybe that was a once in a lifetime type performance. Maybe he's on the slide. Maybe he needs the fear factor. Either way, he's a very good fighter who possesses plenty of attributes that have given Canelo trouble before. Good mover, quick feet, quick hands, reach advantage etc. Was hit plenty by Sulecki and Derevyanchenko though, he doesn't want to be taking those shots off Alvarez.

no doubt devrrvyanchko is a top middleweight.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 18:50

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:38

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:31 canelo fighting the best is par 4 da course

Yup, in he isn't there already he's very close to the all-time Mexican top 10. Definitely higher than finito who people adore with that weird I'm going to overrate a strawweight to prove I care about them syndrome.

Canelo is definitely #1 are you kidding? No doubt. Wait, you were talking about the rankings of most fraudulent scores by judges in history or did I misread something somewhere?

Still pissed about streaming costing more money?

I wouldn't say anything bad about Jacobs' performance against Derevyanchenko. Derevyanchenko is a monstrous fighter. I don't think Canelo or GGG would do better against a beast like him.

Canelo doesn't fight anything like Derevyanchenko. Here, you have a case of a boxer-puncher against a counter-puncher. Jacobs has an enormous reach and height advantage. I find it hard to see Canelo winning unless he gets a robbery card. If Canelo beats Jacobs, I'd be wondering if he deserves the p4p #1 spot.

De La Hoya progression over time:

To all, thank you for all your support you give to the best sport in the world. Let’s enjoy the holidays and can’t wait to announce Canelo’s opponent for May. #UWillBeShocked

I’ve given marching orders to my president @makeawar to start talks with @GGGBoxing #CaneloGGG3 @ringmagazine @UnivisionSports @DAZN_USA @espn @Canelo @GGGBoxing @GoldenBoyBoxing

May 4 #CaneloJacobs is signed. Done deal! The best fights continue for @goldenboyboxing in 2019 on @dazn_usa. #CincoDeMayoWeekend #ChampionVSChampion #boxing

It kind of seems like he was pretending that he had a plan all along, but didn't really have a plan all along.

Lackeos wrote: ↑18 Jan 2019, 01:05 De La Hoya progression over time:

To all, thank you for all your support you give to the best sport in the world. Let’s enjoy the holidays and can’t wait to announce Canelo’s opponent for May. #UWillBeShocked

I’ve given marching orders to my president @makeawar to start talks with @GGGBoxing #CaneloGGG3 @ringmagazine @UnivisionSports @DAZN_USA @espn @Canelo @GGGBoxing @GoldenBoyBoxing

May 4 #CaneloJacobs is signed. Done deal! The best fights continue for @goldenboyboxing in 2019 on @dazn_usa. #CincoDeMayoWeekend #ChampionVSChampion #boxing

It kind of seems like he was pretending that he had a plan all along, but didn't really have a plan all along.

De La Hoya always stated that GGG wouldn't be Canelo's next opponent and Daniel Jacobs has always been the favourite to share the ring with the Mexican during his next outing.

There's no surprise here. The DAZN/Sky Sports broadcast of the Rocky Fielding bout pretty much confirmed this.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 23:05

caldo2025 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 18:50

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:38

Yup, in he isn't there already he's very close to the all-time Mexican top 10. Definitely higher than finito who people adore with that weird I'm going to overrate a strawweight to prove I care about them syndrome.

Canelo is definitely #1 are you kidding? No doubt. Wait, you were talking about the rankings of most fraudulent scores by judges in history or did I misread something somewhere?

Still pissed about streaming costing more money?

He finally admits it. I win. Lol

joshj909 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 17:54 Canelo by robbery

Durrr obviously!

Jacobs had a significant (some would consider unfair) weight advantage against Golovkin because Jacobs did not participate in the weigh-in. Jacobs is good, but not P4P elite. Neither is Canelo with the biased judging he has benefited from when he faced top opposition. I think Jacobs would beat Canelo if the judging is fair and impartial, but we all know it’s not going to be.

lazboy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 22:34

ElJefe wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 21:28 Derevyanchenko is a good fighter who'd beat plenty of good middleweights. That was a tough fight but a very good win for Jacobs imo. That said, he hasn't reached the level of performance from when he fought Golovkin. Maybe that was a once in a lifetime type performance. Maybe he's on the slide. Maybe he needs the fear factor. Either way, he's a very good fighter who possesses plenty of attributes that have given Canelo trouble before. Good mover, quick feet, quick hands, reach advantage etc. Was hit plenty by Sulecki and Derevyanchenko though, he doesn't want to be taking those shots off Alvarez.

no doubt devrrvyanchko is a top middleweight.

Definitely. I hope he doesn't go away after last loss to Jacobs. It's a shame that he turned 33 just a few days after his title shot. He might not have too long left, but I think he's got another run in him. Andrade vs Derevyanchenko is a toss up.

ElJefe wrote: ↑18 Jan 2019, 17:38

lazboy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 22:34

ElJefe wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 21:28 Derevyanchenko is a good fighter who'd beat plenty of good middleweights. That was a tough fight but a very good win for Jacobs imo. That said, he hasn't reached the level of performance from when he fought Golovkin. Maybe that was a once in a lifetime type performance. Maybe he's on the slide. Maybe he needs the fear factor. Either way, he's a very good fighter who possesses plenty of attributes that have given Canelo trouble before. Good mover, quick feet, quick hands, reach advantage etc. Was hit plenty by Sulecki and Derevyanchenko though, he doesn't want to be taking those shots off Alvarez.

no doubt devrrvyanchko is a top middleweight.

Definitely. I hope he doesn't go away after last loss to Jacobs. It's a shame that he turned 33 just a few days after his title shot. He might not have too long left, but I think he's got another run in him. Andrade vs Derevyanchenko is a toss up.

I thought Derevyanchenko vs Culcay was being made. That's a decent first fight on the way back. Doesn't sound like Derevyanchenko's going away. He's got plenty left in the tank. He's only 33.

ElJefe wrote: ↑18 Jan 2019, 17:38

lazboy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 22:34

ElJefe wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 21:28 Derevyanchenko is a good fighter who'd beat plenty of good middleweights. That was a tough fight but a very good win for Jacobs imo. That said, he hasn't reached the level of performance from when he fought Golovkin. Maybe that was a once in a lifetime type performance. Maybe he's on the slide. Maybe he needs the fear factor. Either way, he's a very good fighter who possesses plenty of attributes that have given Canelo trouble before. Good mover, quick feet, quick hands, reach advantage etc. Was hit plenty by Sulecki and Derevyanchenko though, he doesn't want to be taking those shots off Alvarez.

no doubt devrrvyanchko is a top middleweight.

Definitely. I hope he doesn't go away after last loss to Jacobs. It's a shame that he turned 33 just a few days after his title shot. He might not have too long left, but I think he's got another run in him. Andrade vs Derevyanchenko is a toss up.

Yes, hope he stays dedicated and the loss doesn’t define him however as you say the clock is ticking. He’s a top opponent, would give the champs tough fights as he did Jacobs. Keen to seem him return...to a high level only. No time to muck around.

I'm hoping Jacobs can find the same form he had vs GGG. But I doubt it. So I predict Canelo by a fairly wide decision

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Jan 2019, 23:00 I'm hoping Jacobs can find the same form he had vs GGG. But I doubt it. So I predict Canelo by a fairly wide decision

I think it'll be close. These are two really good fighters and Jacobs has a significant size and reach advantage. Unless I'm missing something, it should be a great fight. I can't make a call yet.