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Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 17:19
by oogiebe
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:40
dickbelden wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:28
AJ 4.2-1 over BABY MILLER midpoint oddschecker- too hi or too low ?
It should be 25-1. I expect Miller to do
slightly better than Martin.
Miller has had better preparation than Martin, which isn't saying much, but Joshua is nearly twice the fighter now as he was against Martin.
I expect Miller to be tougher than Martin. Martin was a fraud and still is.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 17:25
by KiwiRider
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:19
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:40
dickbelden wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:28
AJ 4.2-1 over BABY MILLER midpoint oddschecker- too hi or too low ?
It should be 25-1. I expect Miller to do
slightly better than Martin.
Miller has had better preparation than Martin, which isn't saying much, but Joshua is nearly twice the fighter now as he was against Martin.
I expect Miller to be tougher than Martin. Martin was a fraud and still is.
Personally I haven't seen anything from Miller yet that proves he is a contender. Maybe one fight with a top #15 guy might have changed my opinion, but that hasn't happened.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 17:26
by oogiebe
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:25
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:19
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:40
It should be 25-1. I expect Miller to do
slightly better than Martin.
Miller has had better preparation than Martin, which isn't saying much, but Joshua is nearly twice the fighter now as he was against Martin.
I expect Miller to be tougher than Martin. Martin was a fraud and still is.
Personally I haven't seen anything from Miller yet that proves he is a contender. Maybe one fight with a top #15 guy might have changed my opinion, but that hasn't happened.
OH! Miller's shown more than Martin had, even given his weak opposition. Who did Martin beat that wasn't injured? You know?
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 17:29
by DrDuke
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:19
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:40
dickbelden wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:28
AJ 4.2-1 over BABY MILLER midpoint oddschecker- too hi or too low ?
It should be 25-1. I expect Miller to do
slightly better than Martin.
Miller has had better preparation than Martin, which isn't saying much, but Joshua is nearly twice the fighter now as he was against Martin.
I expect Miller to be tougher than Martin. Martin was a fraud and still is.
Martin isn't that bad. He at least came back after being stopped by AJ and gave Kownacki a decent counteraction. Yet I expect Miller to become better than Martin too. But Miller won't be a champ in contrast to Martin, lol.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 17:32
by Rgoodwin
Eddie can't reel Whyte back in or what?
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 17:34
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:29
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:19
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 16:40
It should be 25-1. I expect Miller to do
slightly better than Martin.
Miller has had better preparation than Martin, which isn't saying much, but Joshua is nearly twice the fighter now as he was against Martin.
I expect Miller to be tougher than Martin. Martin was a fraud and still is.
Martin isn't that bad. He at least came back after being stopped by AJ and gave Kownacki a decent counteraction. Yet I expect Miller to become better than Martin too. But Miller won't be a champ in contrast to Martin, lol.
I don't give Kownacki much credit. He's overrated in my opinion. Just another example of a shallow talent pool. Martin a champ...he wins the title on a leg injury and BoxRec gives him a load of points!!! LMAO!
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 18:40
by candyslim
Rgoodwin wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:32
Eddie can't reel Whyte back in or what?
I could be wrong but I think Eddie wants Whyte for AJ later when he's mandatory for the WBA and/or WBO thereby removing Whyte from contention and discharging 2 out of 3 mandatories all in the same fight.
If AJ fights him in April that means he's got mandatories against Oscar Rivas (WBO) Jarrell Miller? (WBA) as well as Kubrat Pulev (IBF) all looming on the horizon. assuming he gets past Whyte.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:03
by Rgoodwin
candyslim wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 18:40
Rgoodwin wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:32
Eddie can't reel Whyte back in or what?
I could be wrong but I think Eddie wants Whyte for AJ later when he's mandatory for the WBA and/or WBO thereby removing Whyte from contention and discharging 2 out of 3 mandatories all in the same fight.
If AJ fights him in April that means he's got mandatories against Oscar Rivas (WBO) Jarrell Miller? (WBA) as well as Kubrat Pulev (IBF) all looming on the horizon. assuming he gets past Whyte.
They should wait for the mando on all those other than Whyte, take that fight now then seriously gun for the Wilder-Fury winner.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:08
by Bard of Boxrec
Miller isn't very good. Joshua inside 8.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:13
by funso banjo baby
Syntax Error wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 01:38
It's weird how they have been fooled into thinking that Joshua can't fight in April and then again in June.
At what point in history did top professional boxers become so soft and inadequate?
Joshua is fit enough to fight 4 times a year if required, barring injuries obviously; it's nonsense to suggest otherwise.
I agree,
I remember when Joshua grabbed the mike after beating Povetkin and wished us all a happy Christmas.
I thought 'damn, its Oct !!!! theres 5 rounds of action.....£20 spent...and we'll see you sometime next year.

Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:26
by candyslim
Rgoodwin wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 19:03
candyslim wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 18:40
Rgoodwin wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:32
Eddie can't reel Whyte back in or what?
I could be wrong but I think Eddie wants Whyte for AJ later when he's mandatory for the WBA and/or WBO thereby removing Whyte from contention and discharging 2 out of 3 mandatories all in the same fight.
If AJ fights him in April that means he's got mandatories against Oscar Rivas (WBO) Jarrell Miller? (WBA) as well as Kubrat Pulev (IBF) all looming on the horizon. assuming he gets past Whyte.
They should wait for the mando on all those other than Whyte, take that fight now then seriously gun for the Wilder-Fury winner.
He's in the business of collecting belts not dropping them (at least not before he's become undisputed). Surely it makes sense to fight Whyte and Pulev, rather than Whyte, Pulev, Miller and Rivas to clear his mandatories.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:32
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 18:40
Rgoodwin wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:32
Eddie can't reel Whyte back in or what?
I could be wrong but I think Eddie wants Whyte for AJ later when he's mandatory for the WBA and/or WBO thereby removing Whyte from contention and discharging 2 out of 3 mandatories all in the same fight.
If AJ fights him in April that means he's got mandatories against Oscar Rivas (WBO) Jarrell Miller? (WBA) as well as Kubrat Pulev (IBF) all looming on the horizon. assuming he gets past Whyte.
It doesn't work like that.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:35
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 19:32
candyslim wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 18:40
Rgoodwin wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 17:32
Eddie can't reel Whyte back in or what?
I could be wrong but I think Eddie wants Whyte for AJ later when he's mandatory for the WBA and/or WBO thereby removing Whyte from contention and discharging 2 out of 3 mandatories all in the same fight.
If AJ fights him in April that means he's got mandatories against Oscar Rivas (WBO) Jarrell Miller? (WBA) as well as Kubrat Pulev (IBF) all looming on the horizon. assuming he gets past Whyte.
It doesn't work like that.
...so how does it work?
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:36
by Onetimeonly
1 at a time.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 19:46
by danconnollyeire
RKY wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 01:23
Miller will walk him down and stop him if his chin is adequate for his size.
Lol you’re knowledge of boxing is hilarious
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 20:14
by oogiebe
Yes, each body names one mandatory at a time. Candy is explaining strategy to avoid having too many mandatories in a row by not fighting Whyte until he is so named, if I'm not mistaken.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 20:31
by brilo33
miss match , propaly an easier night for aj then his last oppents , millier wouldnt beat Adam Kownacki in my eyes
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 20:33
by oogiebe
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:31
miss match , propaly an easier night for aj then his last oppents , millier wouldnt beat Adam Kownacki in my eyes
I think he could. I'm no Miller fan, as every poster probably knows by now, but he isn't complete crap. He's just not as good as his mouth would have us think.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 20:35
by brilo33
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:33
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:31
miss match , propaly an easier night for aj then his last oppents , millier wouldnt beat Adam Kownacki in my eyes
I think he could. I'm no Miller fan, as every poster probably knows by now, but he isn't complete crap. He's just not as good as his mouth would have us think.
yea problay would , but i what iam getting at is he is on that leavel still, he is not up with ortiz ,
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 20:37
by oogiebe
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:33
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:31
miss match , propaly an easier night for aj then his last oppents , millier wouldnt beat Adam Kownacki in my eyes
I think he could. I'm no Miller fan, as every poster probably knows by now, but he isn't complete crap. He's just not as good as his mouth would have us think.
yea problay would , but i what iam getting at is he is on that leavel still, he is not up with ortiz ,
Yup! Agreed. Miller will get exposed when/if he fights someone in the top 10-15.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 20:43
by brilo33
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:37
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:33
I think he could. I'm no Miller fan, as every poster probably knows by now, but he isn't complete crap. He's just not as good as his mouth would have us think.
yea problay would , but i what iam getting at is he is on that leavel still, he is not up with ortiz ,
Yup! Agreed. Miller will get exposed when/if he fights someone in the top 10-15.
his last fight he he looked average , dont know how this fight would sell ppv,
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 20:45
by oogiebe
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:43
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:37
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:35
yea problay would , but i what iam getting at is he is on that leavel still, he is not up with ortiz ,
Yup! Agreed. Miller will get exposed when/if he fights someone in the top 10-15.
his last fight he he looked average , dont know how this fight would sell ppv,
I'm in the US and wouldn't pay $74.95 for it. No way, no how.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 21:02
by brilo33
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:45
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:43
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:37
Yup! Agreed. Miller will get exposed when/if he fights someone in the top 10-15.
his last fight he he looked average , dont know how this fight would sell ppv,
I'm in the US and wouldn't pay $74.95 for it. No way, no how.
so is aj even known in the us,
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 21:06
by oogiebe
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 21:02
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:45
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:43
his last fight he he looked average , dont know how this fight would sell ppv,
I'm in the US and wouldn't pay $74.95 for it. No way, no how.
so is aj even known in the us,
Nowhere near the status in the UK. But...boxing isn't as popular as it is in the UK, and AJ hasn't yet fought on American soil. He may never get the fame and adoration that Lennox Lewis eventually got, but he can be big in the US, I think.
Re: BIG BABY MILLER vs AJ @ MSG-NYC-USA
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 21:07
by oogiebe
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 21:02
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:45
brilo33 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 20:43
his last fight he he looked average , dont know how this fight would sell ppv,
I'm in the US and wouldn't pay $74.95 for it. No way, no how.
so is aj even known in the us,
Nowhere near the status in the UK. But...boxing isn't as popular as it is in the UK, and AJ hasn't yet fought on American soil. He may never get the fame and adoration that Lennox Lewis eventually got, but he can be big in the US, I think. Wilder doesn't have a huge name in the US either!