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thechump wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 15:48

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 14:34 we really are living in sad times if we don't even consider Lewis capturing the linear title from Briggs as a legacy fight

Briggs??? Wtf

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:49

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:47

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:44
Eh so what? He just wants to be relevant I guess. Found an outlet with PBC, so let him be a gadfly.

I just think he should be above such things. I love Lennox, he’s my favourite heavyweight, but the salty bitchy stuff isn’t really him.
I prefer to remember him as the laidback heavyweight beast with a very, very serious side when it comes down to business!

I can understand that. I kind of separate Lennox as a champ and as a commentator (which I find is not as good as I remembered from HBO). His disposition as champ was perfect.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:04

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:49

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:47

I just think he should be above such things. I love Lennox, he’s my favourite heavyweight, but the salty bitchy stuff isn’t really him.
I prefer to remember him as the laidback heavyweight beast with a very, very serious side when it comes down to business!

I can understand that. I kind of separate Lennox as a champ and as a commentator (which I find is not as good as I remembered from HBO). His disposition as champ was perfect.

He's absolutely useless as a commentator, he barely seems to even comprehend the questions asked of him at times, and just rambles the same platitudes over and over again - I always liked Lennox a lot, but he's really not nimble enough of mind to say anything even vaguely interesting.

thechump wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:20

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:04

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:49
I can understand that. I kind of separate Lennox as a champ and as a commentator (which I find is not as good as I remembered from HBO). His disposition as champ was perfect.

He's absolutely useless as a commentator, he barely seems to even comprehend the questions asked of him at times, and just rambles the same platitudes over and over again - I always liked Lennox a lot, but he's really not nimble enough of mind to say anything even vaguely interesting.

He is like the heavyweight version of carl froch when it comes to commentating

fanman wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 18:22 i think lewis is a good guy, he had to chase unification himself, whilst aj is pricing himself out. ll always showed respect to fury since he won the lineal title.

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 18:26 hes been moved more ambitiously then any other hw around, 5 years less pro then wilder andfury remember, hell fight the biggest fights eventually , the huge ones usually take time

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 18:30

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 18:26 hes been moved more ambitiously then any other hw around, 5 years less pro then wilder andfury remember, hell fight the biggest fights eventually , the huge ones usually take time

Right now it seems his first concern is finances. I'm not talking about who he fights. He should shut up about all that deal making and let his management sort that out. If he did it would do wonders for his persona. He hurt his rep when he stepped onto the ring after Chisora/Whyte.

thechump wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 18:51

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 18:30

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 18:26 hes been moved more ambitiously then any other hw around, 5 years less pro then wilder andfury remember, hell fight the biggest fights eventually , the huge ones usually take time

Right now it seems his first concern is finances. I'm not talking about who he fights. He should shut up about all that deal making and let his management sort that out. If he did it would do wonders for his persona. He hurt his rep when he stepped onto the ring after Chisora/Whyte.

Thats right,fighters should fight and managers should manage. If AJ wants to talk about money and finances then he needs to ditch his manager and promotor because he is wasting his money paying them. Just fight and shut up about money its not like he has none and everyone else has made the millions,he is the money man on the division so legacy should come now and forfeit a percentage of the pot to get the legacy.

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑22 Jan 2019, 02:37he never defended his unified title, instead selling them to DKing and ducking the Ks who unified collectively and defended while knocking King into part time work.

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 12:41

Lenny wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 12:34

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 12:21

Not sure he was ever embraced to be honest. He signed to Sky when 2% of British homes had a Sky dish and thus boxed mostly in obscurity. He was terrified of being booed versus Bruno in London and so they boxed in a half-empty stadium in Wales. He couldn't fill up the 5,000-seat Wembley Arena for title defences versus McCall and Botha, and he could hardly win over the public with his chat show appearances, having a Canadian-Jamaican accent, no charisma, no sense of humour, and a penchant for talking about himself in the third person. He was celebrated in the press for beating Holyfield and Tyson, but never truly crossed over.

I don't think Joshua is a likeable man on any level, in fact he's I find him detestable, but he's very much a right place, right time type of boxer, with so many planets aligning for him at exactly the right moment. Perhaps had Lennox been born 20 years later his hip hop raggamuffin persona would have appealed to the same dullards who are infatuated with Joshua. Ya get me blud.

Lennox’s hip hop raggamuffin persona?
You’re such a nob

I take it you're not familiar with Lennox Lewis?

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:04

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:49

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:47

I just think he should be above such things. I love Lennox, he’s my favourite heavyweight, but the salty bitchy stuff isn’t really him.
I prefer to remember him as the laidback heavyweight beast with a very, very serious side when it comes down to business!

I can understand that. I kind of separate Lennox as a champ and as a commentator (which I find is not as good as I remembered from HBO). His disposition as champ was perfect.

He's absolutely useless as a commentator, he barely seems to even comprehend the questions asked of him at times, and just rambles the same platitudes over and over again - I always liked Lennox a lot, but he's really not nimble enough of mind to say anything even vaguely interesting.

J wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 08:43

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:04

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 13:49
I can understand that. I kind of separate Lennox as a champ and as a commentator (which I find is not as good as I remembered from HBO). His disposition as champ was perfect.

He's absolutely useless as a commentator, he barely seems to even comprehend the questions asked of him at times, and just rambles the same platitudes over and over again - I always liked Lennox a lot, but he's really not nimble enough of mind to say anything even vaguely interesting.

yes me sensei! as I am sure you are aware.

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑22 Jan 2019, 02:37 - Lenny a apex jerk with no more redeeming values.

Great talent coming up, but he never defended his unified title, instead selling them to DKing and ducking the Ks who unified collectively and defended while knocking King into part time work. Never any credit to them and now bitterly jealous of AJ who is so much further ahead in his career that he makes Lenny look like a bumbling oaf.

In short, he's just another bitter Fat Lar, but worse, after his lucre with King, he's gone in further to the dark side with Haymon is it now? To sabotage AJ?

The Queen should strip him of his honors posthaste and not a moment too soon.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 09:07

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑22 Jan 2019, 02:37 - Lenny a apex jerk with no more redeeming values.

Great talent coming up, but he never defended his unified title, instead selling them to DKing and ducking the Ks who unified collectively and defended while knocking King into part time work. Never any credit to them and now bitterly jealous of AJ who is so much further ahead in his career that he makes Lenny look like a bumbling oaf.

In short, he's just another bitter Fat Lar, but worse, after his lucre with King, he's gone in further to the dark side with Haymon is it now? To sabotage AJ?

The Queen should strip him of his honors posthaste and not a moment too soon.

definitely one of the top 5 morons on boxrec.

J wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 08:41

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 12:41

Lenny wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 12:34
Lennox’s hip hop raggamuffin persona?
You’re such a nob

I take it you're not familiar with Lennox Lewis?

If you were you would know he is more Rasta than Hip hop. One love.

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 10:42

J wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 08:41

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 12:41

I take it you're not familiar with Lennox Lewis?

If you were you would know he is more Rasta than Hip hop. One love.

Can he not be both, like the erstwhile New York rap group Heltah Skeltah?

J wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 11:56

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 10:42

J wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 08:41

If you were you would know he is more Rasta than Hip hop. One love.

Can he not be both, like the erstwhile New York rap group Heltah Skeltah?

possible mate but going back to his Jamaican roots brother big lenn "the lion" lewis is an out and out Rastaman.

thechump wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 14:22 Im always thinking is Lewis just stickin up for the American to gain brownie points with the American people because although he didnt connect with the british public,the American public hated him(it seemed this way anyway) plusdidnt he duck(not fight) bowe because of pay too? Also why didnt he give vitali the rematch he promised him? Its easy placing blame when you dont know the full story.