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Jacopodb wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 11:27 I got a special thing for Lennox Lewis... IMHO he's widely underrated: such a responsible fighter, with such a strong will, solid work-ethics, and unquestionable natural makings, cannot be bypassed so easily.

He belongs in that paradoxical category of fighters that are underrated due to not having fought in the most competitive era of their respective weight-classes: there are champions who benefit from that (Anthony Joshua and GGG above all), becoming tremendously overhyped, and fighters that have just not been able to fight on equal terms with huge names, because they simply weren't there at the right time (that's the case of Marciano, Calzaghe, and arguably Floyd Mayweather Jr.), therefore ending up to be underrated, obviously, as written already.

His record is more than respectable, with only two (avenged) losses testifying his winning mentality, and considering the fact that he has been an outstanding amateur, without taking anything from the Olympic fascinating glory, turning pro at the not-so-early age of 24, (technically a very bad choice, in my view, considering Lewis' means), we could say that, summing up both his amateur and professional achievements, he's really something special.

Technically, he was less flawed and more complete than most heavyweight boxing champions in history, from early clinchers/grabbers/wrestlers (with all due respect), to Alí himself. Tyson's boxing proficiency waned too dramatically when he lost his former speed, and Lewis never experienced such a fall from grace: I still think that Lennox might be the only one really being able to put Joe Louis' obvious superiority in serious jeopardy: Lewis had a wondrous lead right hand, granite chin, and a one-two that has Anthony Joshua blushing: the most powerful one-two I've ever seen in a boxer.

To me, arguably the greatest heavyweight in history, hands down.

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:21 Sol (Bagel Boy) Nazerman

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:29

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:21 Sol (Bagel Boy) Nazerman

I just spent a few seconds of my life, I'll never get back looking that name up.

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:30

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:29

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:21 Sol (Bagel Boy) Nazerman

I just spent a few seconds of my life, I'll never get back looking that name up.

LMAO! Let me know if you can't find him.

MasterG wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:33 If you are meaning live I would have to say Gorge Foreman.

If you are just meaning seen (not live just on tv) I would say Mike Tyson.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:36

MasterG wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:33 If you are meaning live I would have to say Gorge Foreman.

If you are just meaning seen (not live just on tv) I would say Mike Tyson.

Who did you see Foreman fight?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:39 I went to cooney.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:45

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:39 I went to cooney.

I won a bet with my brother on that fight. FG said Cooney hit him hard. Remember that punch?

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:01

Jacopodb wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 11:27 I got a special thing for Lennox Lewis... IMHO he's widely underrated: such a responsible fighter, with such a strong will, solid work-ethics, and unquestionable natural makings, cannot be bypassed so easily.

He belongs in that paradoxical category of fighters that are underrated due to not having fought in the most competitive era of their respective weight-classes: there are champions who benefit from that (Anthony Joshua and GGG above all), becoming tremendously overhyped, and fighters that have just not been able to fight on equal terms with huge names, because they simply weren't there at the right time (that's the case of Marciano, Calzaghe, and arguably Floyd Mayweather Jr.), therefore ending up to be underrated, obviously, as written already.

His record is more than respectable, with only two (avenged) losses testifying his winning mentality, and considering the fact that he has been an outstanding amateur, without taking anything from the Olympic fascinating glory, turning pro at the not-so-early age of 24, (technically a very bad choice, in my view, considering Lewis' means), we could say that, summing up both his amateur and professional achievements, he's really something special.

Technically, he was less flawed and more complete than most heavyweight boxing champions in history, from early clinchers/grabbers/wrestlers (with all due respect), to Alí himself. Tyson's boxing proficiency waned too dramatically when he lost his former speed, and Lewis never experienced such a fall from grace: I still think that Lennox might be the only one really being able to put Joe Louis' obvious superiority in serious jeopardy: Lewis had a wondrous lead right hand, granite chin, and a one-two that has Anthony Joshua blushing: the most powerful one-two I've ever seen in a boxer.

To me, arguably the greatest heavyweight in history, hands down.

I keep asking myself when I look at HWs historically should I do it P4P? Either way, LL is in my top 5.

Jacopodb wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 14:51

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 12:01

Jacopodb wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 11:27 I got a special thing for Lennox Lewis... IMHO he's widely underrated: such a responsible fighter, with such a strong will, solid work-ethics, and unquestionable natural makings, cannot be bypassed so easily.

He belongs in that paradoxical category of fighters that are underrated due to not having fought in the most competitive era of their respective weight-classes: there are champions who benefit from that (Anthony Joshua and GGG above all), becoming tremendously overhyped, and fighters that have just not been able to fight on equal terms with huge names, because they simply weren't there at the right time (that's the case of Marciano, Calzaghe, and arguably Floyd Mayweather Jr.), therefore ending up to be underrated, obviously, as written already.

His record is more than respectable, with only two (avenged) losses testifying his winning mentality, and considering the fact that he has been an outstanding amateur, without taking anything from the Olympic fascinating glory, turning pro at the not-so-early age of 24, (technically a very bad choice, in my view, considering Lewis' means), we could say that, summing up both his amateur and professional achievements, he's really something special.

Technically, he was less flawed and more complete than most heavyweight boxing champions in history, from early clinchers/grabbers/wrestlers (with all due respect), to Alí himself. Tyson's boxing proficiency waned too dramatically when he lost his former speed, and Lewis never experienced such a fall from grace: I still think that Lennox might be the only one really being able to put Joe Louis' obvious superiority in serious jeopardy: Lewis had a wondrous lead right hand, granite chin, and a one-two that has Anthony Joshua blushing: the most powerful one-two I've ever seen in a boxer.

To me, arguably the greatest heavyweight in history, hands down.

I keep asking myself when I look at HWs historically should I do it P4P? Either way, LL is in my top 5.

You mean considering the fact that, for example, Marciano should be considered as a light-heavyweight, and not as a proper heavyweight?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 15:40 Louis would rip up either Klitschko.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 15:54

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 15:40 Louis would rip up either Klitschko.

Even @ 195?

Duran1970 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 15:53 And Lewis

Jacopodb wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 11:27 I got a special thing for Lennox Lewis... IMHO he's widely underrated: such a responsible fighter, with such a strong will, solid work-ethics, and unquestionable natural makings, cannot be bypassed so easily.

He belongs in that paradoxical category of fighters that are underrated due to not having fought in the most competitive era of their respective weight-classes: there are champions who benefit from that (Anthony Joshua and GGG above all), becoming tremendously overhyped, and fighters that have just not been able to fight on equal terms with huge names, because they simply weren't there at the right time (that's the case of Marciano, Calzaghe, and arguably Floyd Mayweather Jr.), therefore ending up to be underrated, obviously, as written already.

His record is more than respectable, with only two (avenged) losses testifying his winning mentality, and considering the fact that he has been an outstanding amateur, without taking anything from the Olympic fascinating glory, turning pro at the not-so-early age of 24, (technically a very bad choice, in my view, considering Lewis' means), we could say that, summing up both his amateur and professional achievements, he's really something special.

Technically, he was less flawed and more complete than most heavyweight boxing champions in history, from early clinchers/grabbers/wrestlers (with all due respect), to Alí himself. Tyson's boxing proficiency waned too dramatically when he lost his former speed, and Lewis never experienced such a fall from grace: I still think that Lennox might be the only one really being able to put Joe Louis' obvious superiority in serious jeopardy: Lewis had a wondrous lead right hand, granite chin, and a one-two that has Anthony Joshua blushing: the most powerful one-two I've ever seen in a boxer.

To me, arguably the greatest heavyweight in history, hands down.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 15:54

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 15:40 Louis would rip up either Klitschko.

Even @ 195?