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Dont really pay much attention to the WBA but which fighters hold the WBA Gold strap?

jlh wrote: ↑09 Apr 2019, 16:55 Dont really pay much attention to the WBA but which fighters hold the WBA Gold strap?

Joe Joyce at heavy.
I believe there’s only one other current holder but can’t recall who.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑09 Apr 2019, 17:47 Joe Joyce at heavy.
I believe there’s only one other current holder but can’t recall who.

There are quite a few WBA Gold Champions already -

Joyce at Heavyweight
Arsen Goulamirian of Armenia at Cruiser
Lennox Allen of Guyana at smw
Michel Soro of France at super-welter
Eduardo A. Ramirez of Mexico at feather

But hey still a few more weight divisions without the benefits of a Gold Champ yet - give it time and the WBA will start doing Gold Inter-Continental titles and on and on and on.

Mark_a_Wood wrote: ↑09 Apr 2019, 18:05 There are quite a few WBA Gold Champions already -

Joyce at Heavyweight
Arsen Goulamirian of Armenia at Cruiser
Lennox Allen of Guyana at smw
Michel Soro of France at super-welter
Eduardo A. Ramirez of Mexico at feather

But hey still a few more weight divisions without the benefits of a Gold Champ yet - give it time and the WBA will start doing Gold Inter-Continental titles and on and on and on.

Oh goody! More belts! As I've posted before, the end result is that every fighter gets a "Participation Belt." Oh the humanity!!!

Mark_a_Wood wrote: ↑09 Apr 2019, 18:05 There are quite a few WBA Gold Champions already -

Joyce at Heavyweight
Arsen Goulamirian of Armenia at Cruiser
Lennox Allen of Guyana at smw
Michel Soro of France at super-welter
Eduardo A. Ramirez of Mexico at feather

But hey still a few more weight divisions without the benefits of a Gold Champ yet - give it time and the WBA will start doing Gold Inter-Continental titles and on and on and on.

I wouldn't like to see the silver list then. WBA is a complete joke.

jlh wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 17:49 I wouldn't like to see the silver list then. WBA is a complete joke.

Which of those guys do you have a problem with? All highly ranked boxers, which don't you think deserves to hold a minor title?

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 17:57 Which of those guys do you have a problem with? All highly ranked boxers, which don't you think deserves to hold a minor title?

All of these "minor" titles stops the best from fighting the best, and even the second best from fighting the second best. Everyone is scurrying protecting their records or their precious secondary belts. It adds nothing to the industry except for more sanctioning fees. Let these guys start competing for the WORLD championships, and I don't mean 'regular.'

Not sure how to answer as I haven't a clue what a WBA gold championship is but are they giving these belts out to boxers or do they have to win them? a couple have lost recently and seems like they may been handed to them. Wonder what you need to do to win a silver belt then

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 18:03 All of these "minor" titles stops the best from fighting the best, and even the second best from fighting the second best. Everyone is scurrying protecting their records or their precious secondary belts. It adds nothing to the industry except for more sanctioning fees. Let these guys start competing for the WORLD championships, and I don't mean 'regular.'

Which of the WBA Gold championship holders do you regard as one of the best or second best that are using it to avoid competing with other top level boxers?

The WBA Gold is a strange championship as it is not regarded as a World title even by the WBA, but is included on their World champions list when other smaller titles are not.

It seems like the idea was to have an equivalent to the WBC Silver, whilst at the same time implying that it is superior to the WBC belt by calling it Gold, however the WBA already had an equivalent to the WBC Silver in the WBA Regular title.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Apr 2019, 02:41 Which of the WBA Gold championship holders do you regard as one of the best or second best that are using it to avoid competing with other top level boxers?

The WBA Gold is a strange championship as it is not regarded as a World title even by the WBA, but is included on their World champions list when other smaller titles are not.

It seems like the idea was to have an equivalent to the WBC Silver, whilst at the same time implying that it is superior to the WBC belt by calling it Gold, however the WBA already had an equivalent to the WBC Silver in the WBA Regular title.

All of these "minor" belts are worthless. Again, just a ploy to get more sanctioning fees and an attempt to 'fool' casuals into thinking a fight is for some championship.

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Apr 2019, 09:24 All of these "minor" belts are worthless. Again, just a ploy to get more sanctioning fees and an attempt to 'fool' casuals into thinking a fight is for some championship.

I am perfectly happy with smaller titles, though I do agree with many on this thread that the WBA Gold is a strange one and more difficult to argue a reason for than regional belts etc, I just found your comment that they are stopping top level competitors from boxing one another a difficult point to agree with or understand given the boxers in question.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Apr 2019, 10:20 I am perfectly happy with smaller titles, though I do agree with many on this thread that the WBA Gold is a strange one and more difficult to argue a reason for than regional belts etc, I just found your comment that they are stopping top level competitors from boxing one another a difficult point to agree with or understand given the boxers in question.

Yeah, the Gold best is the biggest mystery for sure. I guess if the minor belts are used as launching points, then I don't mind as much, but I always point to guys like Charr and Trevor Bryan.

Not sure these minor titles are making boxers or rather promoters do their utmost to protect them from losing said title.

Let's be reasonable, even the promoters will only REALLY give care to the 4 "main" ABC bodies.....

The WBA threw a spannner in the works when they decided that they would "promote" any of their champions who unified to the "Super" champ....and thus wanted to recognise someone else as their champion.

A f%%%ing stupid concept!