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Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 23:53
by jamamb
remember ggg boxed lems head off too, then was very much the less polished fighter vs canelo

the lem fight flattered bjs, perfectly tailor made opponent to outbox, bjs obviously good but no way is he so much above a sharp puncher like canelo to beat him 9 of 10

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 05:17
by samwbr
Callum Smith would snap him in 2.

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 05:21
by Oiky
Probably many who could snap bill in two,if they caught him,fear bill would be too elusive & clever for many

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 05:24
by whiskey
Will he be a fat middleweight at 168 or will he grow into it?

Obviously there have been smaller men up at higher weights with success, Adrian Diaconu was 5'8 and fought at light-heavy.

But i echo the others, I'd rather see him at 160.

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 05:39
by Steveh583
He'll win this and then fight the winner of degale vs eubank. Bet the house on it. He's obv happy to be a domestic world champ and that's FWs stock in trade

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 05:54
by kbackup408
G0mez wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:24 Will he be a fat middleweight at 168 or will he grow into it?

Obviously there have been smaller men up at higher weights with success, Adrian Diaconu was 5'8 and fought at light-heavy.

But i echo the others, I'd rather see him at 160.
I think he beats everyone at 168lb domestically except Callum Smith that would be a good fight !

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 06:10
by Oiky
Think Callum is a serious threat to him,but bill beats him,nonetheless a fight I want to see! That's what boxings about at the end of the day,the fights we wanna see,we can all be guilty of over analyising things to death,things that don't concern us in reality,and things we stand to earn no serious monetary gain out of,even chucking dough down for a bet is only a bit of sport

I get a bit sick of all the he said she said between promoters& all that lark,I know it's a huge part of boxing,but nowhere near as big as "the fight" and should never be....

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 06:25
by fizzjambo
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:54
G0mez wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:24 Will he be a fat middleweight at 168 or will he grow into it?

Obviously there have been smaller men up at higher weights with success, Adrian Diaconu was 5'8 and fought at light-heavy.

But i echo the others, I'd rather see him at 160.
I think he beats everyone at 168lb domestically except Callum Smith that would be a good fight !
I think I’m saying that he beats everyone at 168 in the world other than Calum Smith.

To be fair I agree with that. BJS is top level boxer and exceptionally slick at his best. Him and Smith would be a genuinely interesting fight. I’d side Smith on size but they are well matched.

It’s a great move for Saunders but the fights i want to see involving him are Andrade, Canelo, GGG and Jacobs. IMO he competes well with all of them and is perfectly capable of winning and losing to them all!

Eubank II is of little interest to me but it’s what we’ll get and it’s also where the money is

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 06:29
by Oiky
Would like to see him fight Andrade,ggg & smith

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 07:16
by rhino222
Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 07:45
by kbackup408
fizzjambo wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:25
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:54
G0mez wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:24 Will he be a fat middleweight at 168 or will he grow into it?

Obviously there have been smaller men up at higher weights with success, Adrian Diaconu was 5'8 and fought at light-heavy.

But i echo the others, I'd rather see him at 160.
I think he beats everyone at 168lb domestically except Callum Smith that would be a good fight !
I think I’m saying that he beats everyone at 168 in the world other than Calum Smith.

To be fair I agree with that. BJS is top level boxer and exceptionally slick at his best. Him and Smith would be a genuinely interesting fight. I’d side Smith on size but they are well matched.

It’s a great move for Saunders but the fights i want to see involving him are Andrade, Canelo, GGG and Jacobs. IMO he competes well with all of them and is perfectly capable of winning and losing to them all!

Eubank II is of little interest to me but it’s what we’ll get and it’s also where the money is
honestly pal think sometimes people judge his boxing skills based on the stuff he does on social media, he is probably one of the hardest boxers to hit flush so talented!

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 07:46
by kbackup408
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:29 Would like to see him fight Andrade,ggg & smith
I think that Andrade fight will never happen (he knows BJS will out point him), Golovkin is looking for big retirement bouts and Smith would be a massive fight !

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 08:50
by Oiky
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 07:46
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:29 Would like to see him fight Andrade,ggg & smith
I think that Andrade fight will never happen (he knows BJS will out point him), Golovkin is looking for big retirement bouts and Smith would be a massive fight !
If we get to see one of those fights it'll be good :TU: I doubt Andrade fight will happen either

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 10:01
by kbackup408
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 08:50
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 07:46
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:29 Would like to see him fight Andrade,ggg & smith
I think that Andrade fight will never happen (he knows BJS will out point him), Golovkin is looking for big retirement bouts and Smith would be a massive fight !
If we get to see one of those fights it'll be good :TU: I doubt Andrade fight will happen either
are you buying this weekends PPV mate? (DeGale vs Eubank)

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 10:31
by Oiky
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 10:01
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 08:50
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 07:46
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:29 Would like to see him fight Andrade,ggg & smith
I think that Andrade fight will never happen (he knows BJS will out point him), Golovkin is looking for big retirement bouts and Smith would be a massive fight !
If we get to see one of those fights it'll be good :TU: I doubt Andrade fight will happen either
are you buying this weekends PPV mate? (DeGale vs Eubank)
yes mate,will you be watching? It's not a PPV fight but I am intrigued about it and will watch for that reason alone

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 10:54
by kbackup408
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 10:31
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 10:01
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 08:50
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 07:46
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:29 Would like to see him fight Andrade,ggg & smith
I think that Andrade fight will never happen (he knows BJS will out point him), Golovkin is looking for big retirement bouts and Smith would be a massive fight !
If we get to see one of those fights it'll be good :TU: I doubt Andrade fight will happen either
are you buying this weekends PPV mate? (DeGale vs Eubank)
yes mate,will you be watching? It's not a PPV fight but I am intrigued about it and will watch for that reason alone
yes pal, but I am hesitant last time I bought ITV box office it was piss poor kept on lagging!

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 11:06
by Oiky
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 10:54
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 10:31
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 10:01
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 08:50
kbackup408 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 07:46
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:29 Would like to see him fight Andrade,ggg & smith
I think that Andrade fight will never happen (he knows BJS will out point him), Golovkin is looking for big retirement bouts and Smith would be a massive fight !
If we get to see one of those fights it'll be good :TU: I doubt Andrade fight will happen either
are you buying this weekends PPV mate? (DeGale vs Eubank)
yes mate,will you be watching? It's not a PPV fight but I am intrigued about it and will watch for that reason alone
yes pal, but I am hesitant last time I bought ITV box office it was piss poor kept on lagging!
Was it,hopefully we don't get none of that s**t this weekend

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 12:06
by hitman_hatton1
Steveh583 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:39 He'll win this and then fight the winner of degale vs eubank. Bet the house on it. He's obv happy to be a domestic world champ and that's FWs stock in trade
doubt that happens.

what with both degale & eubank on itv/al haymon. :roll:

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 12:31
by Deserter
rhino222 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 07:16 Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.
We must be talking about a different Saunders - he's looked fleshy at MW at times... no way he's a decent-sized SMW.

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 12:51
by jamamb
ya, 5'11 and fleshy at mw, how is he a decent sized smw? look at the other top smws...these guys are 6'1-6'3 and cut

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 12:54
by jamamb
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:10 Think Callum is a serious threat to him,but bill beats him,nonetheless a fight I want to see! That's what boxings about at the end of the day,the fights we wanna see,we can all be guilty of over analyising things to death,things that don't concern us in reality,and things we stand to earn no serious monetary gain out of,even chucking dough down for a bet is only a bit of sport

I get a bit sick of all the he said she said between promoters& all that lark,I know it's a huge part of boxing,but nowhere near as big as "the fight" and should never be....
who at 168 and 160 do you think beats bill

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 13:06
by kbackup408
jamamb wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 12:54
Oiky wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 06:10 Think Callum is a serious threat to him,but bill beats him,nonetheless a fight I want to see! That's what boxings about at the end of the day,the fights we wanna see,we can all be guilty of over analyising things to death,things that don't concern us in reality,and things we stand to earn no serious monetary gain out of,even chucking dough down for a bet is only a bit of sport

I get a bit sick of all the he said she said between promoters& all that lark,I know it's a huge part of boxing,but nowhere near as big as "the fight" and should never be....
who at 168 and 160 do you think beats bill
at 168lb Smith and Ramirez beats him

He out points at 168lb:

Eubank Jr (done)
Plant
Fielding
Hart
Ryder
DeGale
Chudinov
Yildirim

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 14:29
by Steveh583
rhino222 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 07:16 Billy will be a decent sized SMW. he has a relatively big frame. he also has incredible skills. i look forward to seeing how he gets on.
Disagree, he'll be tiny

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 14:30
by Steveh583
hitman_hatton1 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 12:06
Steveh583 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:39 He'll win this and then fight the winner of degale vs eubank. Bet the house on it. He's obv happy to be a domestic world champ and that's FWs stock in trade
doubt that happens.

what with both degale & eubank on itv/al haymon. :roll:
Warren already talking it up

Re: Saunders moving up to SMW

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 14:45
by JimJim2009
Steveh583 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 05:39 He's obv happy to be a domestic world champ and that's FWs stock in trade
Good post