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jamamb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:52 im still amazed mesi made it to the final bell, he looked totally done and not right

Mesi in that last round and Wilder in round 7 against Ortiz, I was thinking the same thing. This is over ! But I was wrong.

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 12:58Jirov vs Toney.

Toney officially won the fight 117-109 x 2 and 116-110. James didn't even need to drop Jirov in the final round to win that contest.

HBO's scorecards don't count and neither do our own. Most fight fans thought Toney won, he didn't have to "turn" things "on it's head."

As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!

So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

I saw it the way I saw it. Must you always be so obnoxious and self aggrandizing?

Tony1244 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:55

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:52 im still amazed mesi made it to the final bell, he looked totally done and not right

Mesi in that last round and Wilder in round 7 against Ortiz, I was thinking the same thing. This is over ! But I was wrong.

thats the beauty of the game

(minus what happened to mesi of course)

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:59

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 12:58Jirov vs Toney.

Toney officially won the fight 117-109 x 2 and 116-110. James didn't even need to drop Jirov in the final round to win that contest.

HBO's scorecards don't count and neither do our own. Most fight fans thought Toney won, he didn't have to "turn" things "on it's head."

As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!

So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

I saw it the way I saw it. Must you always be so obnoxious and self aggrandizing?

Jirov never dominated Toney when they fought. It was a competitive fight that the American was leading. And James didn't have to resort to desperate measures to turn things around either.

Your perception of Toney having to "turn" things "on it's head" in order to beat Jirov (who you claim was "winning handidly"), just seemed odd to me.

I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I paid attention to the thread topic and I also recently watched the Jirov-Toney bout. It is what it is.

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:06

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:59

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 12:58Jirov vs Toney.

Toney officially won the fight 117-109 x 2 and 116-110. James didn't even need to drop Jirov in the final round to win that contest.

HBO's scorecards don't count and neither do our own. Most fight fans thought Toney won, he didn't have to "turn" things "on it's head."

As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!

So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

I saw it the way I saw it. Must you always be so obnoxious and self aggrandizing?

Jirov never dominated Toney when they fought. It was a competitive fight that the American was leading. And James didn't have to resort to desperate measures to turn things around either.

Your perception of Toney having to "turn" things "on it's head" in order to beat Jirov (who you claim was "winning handidly"), just seemed odd to me.

I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I paid attention to the thread topic and I also recently watched the Jirov-Toney bout. It is what it is.

Tim Littles was not handily beating James Toney.

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:06

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:59

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 12:58Jirov vs Toney.

Toney officially won the fight 117-109 x 2 and 116-110. James didn't even need to drop Jirov in the final round to win that contest.

HBO's scorecards don't count and neither do our own. Most fight fans thought Toney won, he didn't have to "turn" things "on it's head."

As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!

So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

I saw it the way I saw it. Must you always be so obnoxious and self aggrandizing?

Jirov never dominated Toney when they fought. It was a competitive fight that the American was leading. And James didn't have to resort to desperate measures to turn things around either.

Your perception of Toney having to "turn" things "on it's head" in order to beat Jirov (who you claim was "winning handidly"), just seemed odd to me.

I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I paid attention to the thread topic and I also recently watched the Jirov-Toney bout. It is what it is.

You don't upset me. You are just annoying. Go watch the fight. Respect others' opinions. Change your name again!

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:12Tim Littles was not handily beating James Toney.

Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.

The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:12Tim Littles was not handily beating James Toney.

Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.

The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?

Maybe you'd like a gentle reminder of the topic of this thread:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42 So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:21

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:12Tim Littles was not handily beating James Toney.

Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.

The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?

Maybe you'd like a gentle reminder of the topic of this thread:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42 So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.

Good luck with that request!! Eolaithe=Verlicht=Enlightened One.

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:22

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:21

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:12Tim Littles was not handily beating James Toney.

Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.

The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?

Maybe you'd like a gentle reminder of the topic of this thread:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42 So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.

Good luck with that request!! Eolaithe=Verlicht=Enlightened One.

I know, that's the only reason I'm slapping him back right now

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:22

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:21

Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17

punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:12Tim Littles was not handily beating James Toney.

Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.

The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?

Maybe you'd like a gentle reminder of the topic of this thread:

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42 So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.

Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.

Good luck with that request!! Eolaithe=Verlicht=Enlightened One.

I know, that's the only reason I'm slapping him back right now

Ok, then have fun!

It wasn't a full fledged turnaround. But I recall Scott Ledoux being virtually shut out late by Ken Norton before battering and dropping Norton several times in the final rounds.

Those late round heroics over an aging, exhausted Norton earned Ledoux a draw.

Diego Corrales turned it around against Acelino Freitas, he had lost the 1st 7 rounds, and then proceeded to drop him in the 8th, 9th and 10th rounds which made Freitas quit.

He turned it around against Jose Luis Castillo in the 1st bout, though he owes an assist to Tony Weeks on that one.

Wasn't David Tua well behind against Fres Oquendo before pouring it on and stopping him in the 9th? I never actually saw that fight, but it seems like that's the way I heard it went down back then. Could be wrong.

ya fres won pretty much every round

Hell Marciano vs Walcott 1 surely would fit this category. Walcott was far enough ahead that nothing short of a KO was gonna win the title for Rocky. He got it.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 15:12 Wasn't David Tua well behind against Fres Oquendo before pouring it on and stopping him in the 9th? I never actually saw that fight, but it seems like that's the way I heard it went down back then. Could be wrong.

He was way behind, yes. Good memory!

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 15:14 Hell Marciano vs Walcott 1 surely would fit this category. Walcott was far enough ahead that nothing short of a KO was gonna win the title for Rocky. He got it.

Louis/Conn I

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 15:14 Hell Marciano vs Walcott 1 surely would fit this category. Walcott was far enough ahead that nothing short of a KO was gonna win the title for Rocky. He got it.

Still my favorite HW bout of all time.

ray austin was pretty handily outboxing stiverne before getting stopped late

craig mcewan was really roughing up andy lee

Ooh I remember one I enjoyed greatly. Not a huge fight, but a marvelous turnaround.

John Molina stopping Mickey Bey in the 10th round when he had lost the first 9 rounds was fantastic. The first 9 rounds sucked ass as almost all Mickey Bey fights do when he's having his way, but then his corner advised him that he needed to win the 10th round like a bunch of idiots, and this caused him to be more aggressive, and get caught by the much harder hitting Molina.

Rafael Marquez vs Tim Austin where Marquez won the Bantamweight Title made me an instant fan of both Marquez, and his trainer Nacho Beristain. After 7 nip and tuck rounds where Austin was getting the better of it, probably ahead 5 rounds to 2 or so. Nacho told Marquez "You gotta go after him, I don't know what you're doing, you're blowing it" or something along those lines. Marquez heeded his advice, and came out WAY more aggressive in the 8th, and proceeded to make the 8th round an all out war where he wound up coming out on top via KO. An amazing ending to an otherwise dull, and forgettable fight. This always stood out to me because it was a Round of the Year candidate in an otherwise sucky fight. Pretty unusual.

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 15:17 ray austin was pretty handily outboxing stiverne before getting stopped late

craig mcewan was really roughing up andy lee

Good call on McEwan vs Andy.

If I recall Andy was well behind against Korobov as well before knocking the bejesus out of him with that right hook, and taking him out. You can never count out Andy.

ya, and another andy lee fight, vs one of the jackson sons, lee was down and jackson was moving in on him, then bam with one shot

S. Martinez vs. Williams..............

ValMar wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 15:22 S. Martinez vs. Williams..............

I love that ko! What a shot!