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Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 19 Mar 2019, 08:46
by bbb636
His promoter from "eye of the tiger management"camille estephan" said yesterday on 91.9 F.M sports june 15 For a minor title,the opponent is signed..
Not from the top 10 they don't have the budget yet........
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 11:01
by filibert
The problem with this kind of power is that he will not learn to box as long as he is able to KO his opponents in the first two rounds. So when he will hit the top 10, he will not know anything about defense, footwork, etc.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 11:48
by punchoutsb
filibert wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 11:01
The problem with this kind of power is that he will not learn to box as long as he is able to KO his opponents in the first two rounds. So when he will hit the top 10, he will not know anything about defense, footwork, etc.
You’re right.
But the good news for him is it’s 2019 and the top ten sucks so he should be fine regardless.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 11:50
by oogiebe
filibert wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 11:01
The problem with this kind of power is that he will not learn to box as long as he is able to KO his opponents in the first two rounds. So when he will hit the top 10, he will not know anything about defense, footwork, etc.
No doubt the guy needs step up fights and stop fighting folks he steamrolls. His matchups moving forward are the key to his development.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 11:51
by jamamb
tbf gibson is usually durable and goes rounds
maybe bring in kev johnson , rodney hernandez, joey d etc. if none of these guys give him rounds then he must have truly a+ power
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 11:54
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 11:51
tbf gibson is usually durable and goes rounds
maybe bring in kev johnson , rodney hernandez, joey d etc
Would all be better than what he's faced already. Hernandez is one tough out and Johnson is a survivor. Joey D might be too small for Makhmudov, but he is one tough fighter.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 15:33
by pound per pound
filibert wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 11:01
The problem with this kind of power is that he will not learn to box as long as he is able to KO his opponents in the first two rounds. So when he will hit the top 10, he will not know anything about defense, footwork, etc.
This is why his management will need to pay for the type is sparring partners to develop the skills you mentioned.
Most top ten boxers are not more durable than his last opponent.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 15:41
by oogiebe
pound per pound wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:33
filibert wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 11:01
The problem with this kind of power is that he will not learn to box as long as he is able to KO his opponents in the first two rounds. So when he will hit the top 10, he will not know anything about defense, footwork, etc.
This is why his management will need to pay for the type is sparring partners to develop the skills you mentioned.
Most top ten boxers are not more durable than his last opponent.
Do you really believe that? I'm sorry, but I don't. Gibson has shown to be a tough out, but he never fought top 10 or even 15 names.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 15:45
by ValMar
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 15:48
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 15:53
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:48
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but
low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Low risk ? Why ? I think he is ready (and willing) for the top 20 HW. He should not waste his time.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 15:56
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:48
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but
low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Low risk ? Why ? I think he is ready (and willing) for the top 20 HW. He should not waste his time.
I don't think he's ready. His level of competition isn't nearly top 20 or even top 40 yet. He can get there in three decent step up fights in today's HW division. He is an older prospect, but power punchers mature later, so he still has time. Right now, he has bad habits that a seasoned HW will exploit. His hands are too low. He can set his punches better, and stop relying solely on his power from the get go. If he can develop just his jab, it would be a vast improvement for him and make him way more dangerous.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 16:19
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:56
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:48
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but
low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Low risk ? Why ? I think he is ready (and willing) for the top 20 HW. He should not waste his time.
I don't think he's ready. His level of competition isn't nearly top 20 or even top 40 yet. He can get there in three decent step up fights in today's HW division. He is an older prospect, but power punchers mature later, so he still has time. Right now, he has bad habits that a seasoned HW will exploit. His hands are too low. He can set his punches better, and stop relying solely on his power from the get go. If he can develop just his jab, it would be a vast improvement for him and make him way more dangerous.
I am serious, I think that Big Mak is capable to defeat (tomorrow) Chisora, Takam, Kabayal or Helenius.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 16:25
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:19
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:56
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:48
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but
low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Low risk ? Why ? I think he is ready (and willing) for the top 20 HW. He should not waste his time.
I don't think he's ready. His level of competition isn't nearly top 20 or even top 40 yet. He can get there in three decent step up fights in today's HW division. He is an older prospect, but power punchers mature later, so he still has time. Right now, he has bad habits that a seasoned HW will exploit. His hands are too low. He can set his punches better, and stop relying solely on his power from the get go. If he can develop just his jab, it would be a vast improvement for him and make him way more dangerous.
I am serious, I think that Big Mak is capable to defeat (tomorrow) Chisora, Takam, Kabayal or Helenius.
He has a puncher's chance for certain, but not sure he's ready for Chisora and maybe not even Kabayel. Takam too small and Helenius maybe.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 16:32
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:25
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:19
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:56
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:48
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but
low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Low risk ? Why ? I think he is ready (and willing) for the top 20 HW. He should not waste his time.
I don't think he's ready. His level of competition isn't nearly top 20 or even top 40 yet. He can get there in three decent step up fights in today's HW division. He is an older prospect, but power punchers mature later, so he still has time. Right now, he has bad habits that a seasoned HW will exploit. His hands are too low. He can set his punches better, and stop relying solely on his power from the get go. If he can develop just his jab, it would be a vast improvement for him and make him way more dangerous.
I am serious, I think that Big Mak is capable to defeat (tomorrow) Chisora, Takam, Kabayal or Helenius.
He has a puncher's chance for certain, but not sure he's ready for Chisora and maybe not even Kabayel. Takam too small and Helenius maybe.
It is only my feeling, of course, but very, very strong feeling.
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 16:35
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:32
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:25
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:19
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:56
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:48
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but
low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Low risk ? Why ? I think he is ready (and willing) for the top 20 HW. He should not waste his time.
I don't think he's ready. His level of competition isn't nearly top 20 or even top 40 yet. He can get there in three decent step up fights in today's HW division. He is an older prospect, but power punchers mature later, so he still has time. Right now, he has bad habits that a seasoned HW will exploit. His hands are too low. He can set his punches better, and stop relying solely on his power from the get go. If he can develop just his jab, it would be a vast improvement for him and make him way more dangerous.
I am serious, I think that Big Mak is capable to defeat (tomorrow) Chisora, Takam, Kabayal or Helenius.
He has a puncher's chance for certain, but not sure he's ready for Chisora and maybe not even Kabayel. Takam too small and Helenius maybe.
It is only my feeling, of course, but very, very strong feeling.
Hey fair points! I did say "not sure."
Re: Makhmudov 1st round k.o avery gibson
Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 16:40
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:35
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:32
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:25
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 16:19
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:56
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:48
ValMar wrote: ↑20 Mar 2019, 15:45
Mak vs. Rivas would be quite acceptable for me.
Much as I think highly of Mak, I don't think that's a smart matchup as of now. Rivas had a good amateur career and a decent pro career so far, not to mention big power in either hand. Mak is still a bit one dimensional and needs to be taken into mid rounds by someone that would fight back but
low risk. Kevin Johnson type.
Low risk ? Why ? I think he is ready (and willing) for the top 20 HW. He should not waste his time.
I don't think he's ready. His level of competition isn't nearly top 20 or even top 40 yet. He can get there in three decent step up fights in today's HW division. He is an older prospect, but power punchers mature later, so he still has time. Right now, he has bad habits that a seasoned HW will exploit. His hands are too low. He can set his punches better, and stop relying solely on his power from the get go. If he can develop just his jab, it would be a vast improvement for him and make him way more dangerous.
I am serious, I think that Big Mak is capable to defeat (tomorrow) Chisora, Takam, Kabayal or Helenius.
He has a puncher's chance for certain, but not sure he's ready for Chisora and maybe not even Kabayel. Takam too small and Helenius maybe.
It is only my feeling, of course, but very, very strong feeling.
Hey fair points! I did say "not sure."
