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Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 04:13
by Onetimeonly
samwbr wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 03:06
If he gets as juiced as Holyfield did he's got a great chance, definitely the most skilled fighter at the top end.
Fury included before any fanboys jump out.
I'm sure he's as juiced as anyone else.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 06:55
by deadpan
I think provided his chin holds up (I'm sure it will), Usyk stops Joshua. He'll be setting traps all night. There'll be numerous punches that AJ won't see and as his stamina depletes, one of them will topple him.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 07:18
by jamesmcdonnell
deadpan wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 06:55
I think provided his chin holds up (I'm sure it will), Usyk stops Joshua. He'll be setting traps all night. There'll be numerous punches that AJ won't see and as his stamina depletes, one of them will topple him.
Why are you sure it well, how many big heavyweight punchers has he faced?
He will probably do about as well as Adamek did.
Unless he has a chin like Holyfields he is well up against it.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 07:19
by jamesmcdonnell
SamWise72 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 16:50
oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 16:27
SamWise72 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 16:24
I just remember Holyfield.
As do I. Holyfield was special. Usyk needs to prove it at HW. Holyfield already did. Can't wait to see it!
Absolutely. It just gives the lie to "He's too small"
Yes but holyfield was as tough as they come, that's what allowed him to live with the big boys.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 07:42
by kbackup408
revporl wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 04:07
I think its the best HW fight out there. Usyk beats Fury and Wilder and AJ is a pick 'em fight. He's a big cruiser, very skillful and powerful. If this comes sooner rather than later, then that's better than escalating the unification fights imo
Much respect to you pal, but honestly feel Fury would beat Usyk sheerly on size and reach you need mind scrambling power to beat Fury! (even that he can outbox you for 12 out of 12 rounds)
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 08:43
by leejonesjnr
kbackup408 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 07:42
revporl wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 04:07
I think its the best HW fight out there. Usyk beats Fury and Wilder and AJ is a pick 'em fight. He's a big cruiser, very skillful and powerful. If this comes sooner rather than later, then that's better than escalating the unification fights imo
Much respect to you pal, but honestly feel Fury would beat Usyk sheerly on size and reach you need mind scrambling power to beat Fury! (even that he can outbox you for 12 out of 12 rounds)
Nah. Usyk v Fury is 12 rounds wide points win for Usyk
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 08:59
by revporl
I think Fury has shown that he can be caught on a number of occasions, but he's never faced anyone with the skills to finish him (although he obviously does have great recovery) . But I think Usyk possibly could be that person.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 09:02
by oogiebe
revporl wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 08:59
I think Fury has shown that he can be caught on a number of occasions, but he's never faced anyone with the skills to finish him (although he obviously does have great recovery) . But I think Usyk possibly could be that person.
A boxer/puncher is probably the best road to beat Fury. I like Usyk's chances, especially considering Fury's lack of punching power.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 09:11
by DrDuke
Usyk has everything to circle around Joshua and score.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 10:52
by Pukka Cheese
AJ only needs to win a couple rounds and not get KOd for a wide UD....
With a nice spongy canvas, a ref that allows excessive holding / leaning, bent judges & the natural size difference its going to be a tough fight for Usyk to win.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 11:59
by jamesmcdonnell
I think it's pretty bonkers people picking Usyk over Joshua, before he's even had a single fight at heavyweight.
Let's see how well he deals with being hit by a much bigger man.
Usky is a big cruiserweight, but he has quite a lanky frame.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 12:35
by samwbr
Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 10:52
AJ only needs to win a couple rounds and not get KOd for a wide UD....
With a nice spongy canvas, a ref that allows excessive holding / leaning, bent judges & the natural size difference its going to be a tough fight for Usyk to win.
Because he's really struggled through his career so far and been given the benefit of dodgy judging

Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 12:36
by oogiebe
samwbr wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 12:35
Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 10:52
AJ only needs to win a couple rounds and not get KOd for a wide UD....
With a nice spongy canvas, a ref that allows excessive holding / leaning, bent judges & the natural size difference its going to be a tough fight for Usyk to win.
Because he's really struggled through his career so far and been given the benefit of dodgy judging

you beat me to it Samwbr!

Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 12:37
by samwbr
oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 12:36
samwbr wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 12:35
Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑30 Mar 2019, 10:52
AJ only needs to win a couple rounds and not get KOd for a wide UD....
With a nice spongy canvas, a ref that allows excessive holding / leaning, bent judges & the natural size difference its going to be a tough fight for Usyk to win.
Because he's really struggled through his career so far and been given the benefit of dodgy judging

you beat me to it Samwbr!

Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 13:59
by jameswilson
I reckon it will be a case of ‘no you go first.’
When it comes to Usyk vs the big 3. The first guy out of Fury, Wilder and Joshua who face him deserve credit.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 30 Mar 2019, 15:44
by lillywhite14
I rate Usyk, but he lost rounds to Tony fvcking Bellew. That’s sobering and something I forget.
Imagine for second, Joshua v Belllew. It’s like beating up your nan
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 21:25
by ClivePatrickLyons
Hearn will rush this fight so Usyk isn't ready for the cream of the crop at heavyweight Eddie and the Golden Goose win again without to much Risk pathetic decision by the WBO

Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 22:44
by Ricky
Usyk would box AJs ears off, IF he gets past Miller.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 02:12
by Nightmare Roy
He’s a great boxer but he’s too small and doesn’t carry the kind of power to hurt AJ
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 02:25
by Verdi
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑03 Apr 2019, 02:12
He’s a great boxer but he’s too small and doesn’t carry the kind of power to hurt AJ
He's 2cm taller and has a 3inch longer reach than Pov. I think Usyk stands a good chance.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 15:15
by Monte Fisto
oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Mar 2019, 16:27
As do I. Holyfield was special. Usyk needs to prove it at HW. Holyfield already did. Can't wait to see it!
He should definitely follow The Real Deals Diet and and Sports Science Regime to be successful against the top 3
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 15:31
by jamamb
usyks not some super slick boxer. i feel his skill is a bit overrated. what he does have is a nice balance of skill and a+ stamina though, at least at cw
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 16:04
by oogiebe
95gerog wrote: ↑04 Apr 2019, 15:15
He should definitely follow The Real Deals Diet and and Sports Science Regime to be successful against the top 3
Some magic elixir.

Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 16:22
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑04 Apr 2019, 15:31
usyks not some super slick boxer. i feel his skill is a bit overrated. what he does have is a nice balance of skill and a+ stamina though, at least at cw
I describe him as perhaps the most
complete fighter today. So you're not far off that with what you say.
Re: Usyk v Joshua
Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 17:01
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Apr 2019, 16:22
I describe him as perhaps the most
complete fighter today. So you're not far off that with what you say.
Crawford is the most complete fighter. He'd harder to hit and punches harder.