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Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 08:19
by Onetimeonly
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 06:58 Canelo was only able to compete once during 2018, instead of his customary tradition of engaging in two fights per year, which meant that his six-month suspension cost him in the region of $25m to $40m in lost earnings.

Canelo also apparently now has to spend more than $50K per annum to pay for year-round VADA testing on an ongoing basis.

This is despite the fact it was only the NSAC’s own rulebook that compelled them to enforce a suspension, due to their zero-tolerance policy, even though they were reluctant to do so, since they claimed that it was successfully proven that Canelo didn’t intentionally consume PED's.

The only reason why Canelo received a ban in the first place, was because the NSAC's rules doesn't care about the root cause of any positive drug test result, but the punishment that they administered should almost certainly be deemed as being financially severe.

Let’s not forget that the suspension that the NSAC were highly-reluctant to impose on Canelo, resulted in GGG receiving an indirect punishment also, since the postponement of his Cinco De Mayo bout against Alvarez cost him millions of dollars in lost earnings, which seems really unfair considering there was really no “guilty” party.
As per usual only a few words for being wrong. Canelo fought twice in 2018. Would you like to dispute that? :lol:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 08:56
by Enlightened-One
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 08:19 As per usual only a few words for being wrong. Canelo fought twice in 2018. Would you like to dispute that? :lol:
Canelo was inactive from the 17th September 2017 until the 15th September 2018, which equates to 364 days or basically one calendar year. He missed out on a Cinco De Mayo 2018 payday, due to the six month suspension.

I'm happy with the general sentiments of my explanation, since the suspension cost Canelo in the region of $25m to $40m, as he could only participate in one fight during the course of 365 days, but if you want to employ dishonest debating tactics, such as resorting to citing slight errors or typos as evidence that everything I've claimed is untrue, then I won't bother to comment on such trivialities.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 09:15
by Onetimeonly
He fought twice in 2018, not once as you incorrectly stated. You're 100% wrong. :yay:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 09:27
by Boxerbeetle
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 08:56 Canelo was inactive from the 17th September 2017 until the 15th September 2018, which equates to 364 days or basically one calendar year. He missed out on a Cinco De Mayo 2018 payday, due to the six month suspension.

I'm happy with the general sentiments of my explanation, since the suspension cost Canelo in the region of $25m to $40m, as he could only participate in one fight during the course of 365 days, but if you want to employ dishonest debating tactics, such as resorting to citing slight errors or typos as evidence that everything I've claimed is untrue, then I won't bother to comment on such trivialities.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Absolutely pathetic response. Just admit you got it wrong like a real man would.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 09:29
by Enlightened-One
Boxerbeetle wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 09:27 :lol: :lol: :lol: Absolutely pathetic response. Just admit you got it wrong like a real man would.
It was an accurate response.

Canelo fought once in a year (covering 365 days) and missed out on a $25m to $40m payday.

I don’t have to admit anything, since what I wrote was true.

Perhaps I could have phrased it better, but it was accurate nonetheless.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 09:32
by Onetimeonly
Boxerbeetle wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 09:27 :lol: :lol: :lol: Absolutely pathetic response. Just admit you got it wrong like a real man would.
The best part is eo whining about nitpicking.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 09:51
by Fightnight Scores
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 09:29 It was an accurate response.

Canelo fought once in a year (covering 365 days) and missed out on a $25m to $40m payday.

I don’t have to admit anything, since what I wrote was true.

Perhaps I could have phrased it better, but it was accurate nonetheless.
Superior One

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:00
by Boxerbeetle
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 09:29 It was an accurate response.

Canelo fought once in a year (covering 365 days) and missed out on a $25m to $40m payday.

I don’t have to admit anything, since what I wrote was true.

Perhaps I could have phrased it better, but it was accurate nonetheless.
“Canelo was only able to compete once during 2018”

That’s accurate, is it? :lol:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:37
by sturm vogel
Enlightened pointed out that the suspension Canelo received cost him to postpone a fight which cost him money. To dispute that because of a mistake in expressing a timeline is poor reasoning. Substance decides over form.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:37
by Onetimeonly
He made over 30 million in December. It was a typical financial year.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:44
by Enlightened-One
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 11:37 He made over 30 million in December. It was a typical financial year.
How many paydays did Canelo receive during the 364 days between the 17th September 2017 until the 15th September 2018? He planned to compete during Cinco De Mayo 2018, but couldn't.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:04
by Onetimeonly
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 11:44 How many paydays did Canelo receive during the 364 days between the 17th September 2017 until the 15th September 2018? He planned to compete during Cinco De Mayo 2018, but couldn't.
Your mother's breath smells.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:06
by Ilya Muromets
But they do this so shortly before the big fight - as if boxing hasn't lost enough fans already!

One thing I have to admit though is that Miller sounded like roid rage at his appearance with Joshua and Joshua did not, whatever that's worth. Miller may just hype himself up for these confrontations. I've seen that plenty both in person and with fighters, not necessarily caused by drugs.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:08
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:04 Your mother's breath smells.
:lol:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:10
by Ilya Muromets
Oiky wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 05:18 It's all skullduggery

Who gets a pass or not though depends on how much cash you generate.....

Small fish get outed,big fish get a pass

It's not stringent testing at all,never will be


That's what David Howman, the former head of WADA - and me - are saying.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:15
by Ilya Muromets
I just think it's damn suspicious, like his handlers were afraid Miller would beat him and they'd lose their cash cow before their anticipated megafight with Wilder . Very similar to how the Las Vegas drug crew suddenly found something on Povetkin right before his big fight with Wilder.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:18
by jamamb
lol i would love to see wilder fail, i bet youd be defending him with conspiracy theories like you did pov and now miller right :lol:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:22
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:18 lol i would love to see wilder fail, i bet youd be defending him with conspiracy theories like you did pov and now miller right :lol:
Stop! He hasn't failed a test. At least wait to gloat when/if it ever happens. :lol: Such a Wilder hater! :lol:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:25
by jamamb
lol im saying dont bet on him applying to conspiracy talk to defend wilder if he ever gets caught. its all very selective to ppl who they decided are really cheats or not. on the flip side of illya you have ppl who talk about 'pedvetkin' but worship serial cheaters like ortiz.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:26
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:22 Stop! He hasn't failed a test. At least wait to gloat when/if it ever happens. :lol: Such a Wilder hater! :lol:


How legitimately has he, Wilder, been drug tested? Not by a Las Vegas crew but for real? He definitely displays roid rage, bizarre behavior, and unusual muscular development.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:28
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:26 How legitimately has he, Wilder, been drug tested? Not by a Las Vegas crew but for real? He definitely displays roid rage and unusual muscular development.
:lol: Oh, so now Mr. Critical is a PED pathologist. Go look it up and come back and let us know. It'd be refreshing to see some facts.

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:29
by Ilya Muromets
jamamb wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:18 lol i would love to see wilder fail, i bet youd be defending him with conspiracy theories like you did pov and now miller right :lol:


"Conspiracy theories". Isn't that what they teach you to always say when you become confused and don't know how to respond rationally? :lol:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:31
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:28 :lol: Oh, so now Mr. Critical is a PED pathologist. Go look it up and come back and let us know. It'd be refreshing to see some facts.

A PED pathologist? WTF are you talking about? I asked a question. You got an answer?

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:32
by Ilya Muromets
Oh wait - I almost forgot to put in an annoying laughing face...

:lol:

Re: Who is testing the drug testers?

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:33
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:31 A PED pathologist? WTF are you talking about? I asked a question. You got an answer?
Oh sorry. I read it completely wrong. Thought you were making statement.