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Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 02:47
by diddy
No one will license him for at least a year so same result.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 02:59
by kbackup408
I can't believe the loopholes boxing has, you get done for the 3 most potent drugs and still have glimmer of hope to box again this year :brick:

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 03:17
by Enlightened-One
kbackup408 wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 02:59 I can't believe the loopholes boxing has, you get done for the 3 most potent drugs and still have glimmer of hope to box again this year :brick:
His career is essentially over... well at least for a few years.

Most world-rated fighters will flatly refuse to consider facing him. Most promoters won't go near him with a barge pole. Most TV networks will refuse to cover his fights. And the majority of the various sports' governing bodies will refuse to sanction him.

It's extremely unlikely that Jarrell Miller will ever receive another million dollar payday opportunity.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 03:58
by kbackup408
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 03:17 His career is essentially over... well at least for a few years.

Most world-rated fighters will flatly refuse to consider facing him. Most promoters won't go near him with a barge pole. Most TV networks will refuse to cover his fights. And the majority of the various sports' governing bodies will refuse to sanction him.

It's extremely unlikely that Jarrell Miller will ever receive another million dollar payday opportunity.
The world is a funny place mate, ethically I wouldn't even mention his name but I know how much Salita loves to stick his head out in shows he could be back much quicker than we think!

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 05:49
by Thomastearns
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 03:17 His career is essentially over... well at least for a few years.

Most world-rated fighters will flatly refuse to consider facing him. Most promoters won't go near him with a barge pole. Most TV networks will refuse to cover his fights. And the majority of the various sports' governing bodies will refuse to sanction him.

It's extremely unlikely that Jarrell Miller will ever receive another million dollar payday opportunity.
That's sufficient punishment for the biggest PED test failure in years?

In any other walk of life he could be facing imprisonment and at the very least getting sued to his last dollar for such serious breach of contract.

Boxing is not capable of self regulation. Drug cheat after drug cheat returns after the merest slap on the wrist. If we want to extrapolate the way boxing is run to wider society why don't we let all the criminals administer their own justice?

Oh! I forgot, we already do, its called the government.

Well what's the conclusion of Millergate? What's the message? Basically this, get friends on the inside who can provide high quality chemical help, get a TUE if your doctor is kind enough to sign one, and just in case you do pop have a decent excuse ready, preferably broadcast on YouTube.

There you go guys, easypeasy. Big rewards can be yours, just a mere needle or a small drink away.

Yes, drink up, its Miller time!

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 06:45
by Fightnight Scores
Miller will be back in a ring at some point. Boxing has no morals, or shame.

If Margarito boxed again after stuffing hardened plaster into his gloves, fatboy trying to lose some weight will do so as well :OhYes:

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 08:11
by kbackup408
Fightnight Scores wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 06:45 Miller will be back in a ring at some point. Boxing has no morals, or shame.

If Margarito boxed again after stuffing hardened plaster into his gloves, fatboy trying to lose some weight will do so as well :OhYes:
you make a very good point lol, margarito was a cheeky fella for doing that !!!!!!

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 09:28
by candyslim
gilgamesh wrote: 25 Apr 2019, 16:54 Is he in fact banned from the USA? I didn't hear anybody say anything like that. I know they made a big fuss about it, but I don't think they stripped him of his license or anything like that. At least not that I've heard.
It all seems to have gone very quiet doesn't it? Not necessarily a bad thing.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 09:41
by Onetimeonly
Those hearings never happen overnight.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 09:45
by SenorPipino
Fightnight Scores wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 06:45 Miller will be back in a ring at some point. Boxing has no morals, or shame.

If Margarito boxed again after stuffing hardened plaster into his gloves, fatboy trying to lose some weight will do so as well :OhYes:

Absolutely 100% true.

I find it difficult to believe that anyone thinks BB's career is finished.

He's a bigger name than ever.

Why would opponents and promoters shy away from him if he represents a lucrative paycheck for all involved?

Fighters fight. They don't worry about this extracurricular stuff as much as fans. They're more concerned with making a living.

If a heavyweight is eventually offered a career high payday to take on Miller, the only thing he'll ask is "When?" "Where?"

Is Miller the first fighter to get busted? Have all the others been shunned? Everyone eventually returns.

Even Joshua will undoubtedly offer Miller another opportunity somewhere down the road.

Luis Ortiz' run-ins with drugs didn't bother Wilder. Expect Joshua to do the same, saying everyone makes mistakes and deserves a second chance.

It won't hurt that the a resurrected Miller bout will be a huge, must-see collision, and much more anticipated and richer than it would have been on June 1.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 10:07
by candyslim
kbackup408 wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 08:11 you make a very good point lol, margarito was a cheeky fella for doing that !!!!!!
A cheeky fella? Ted Bundy was a bit of a scamp as well :doh:

Whether Miller makes any kind of splash again, outside of his local swimming pool is going to depend on whether he can fight without a pharmaceutical leg-up.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 10:38
by danconnollyeire
candyslim wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 10:07 A cheeky fella? Ted Bundy was a bit of a scamp as well :doh:

Whether Miller makes any kind of splash again, outside of his local swimming pool is going to depend on whether he can fight without a pharmaceutical leg-up.
It's funny how bang average fighters can look after getting caught cheating. Lucas Browne for example

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 11:19
by oogiebe
Mike Tyson went cannibal on Holyfield and was able to come back and fight. Big Baby technically didn't break any rules as he was not under any commission's regulations as he didn't have a license, and I'm sure he'll be back in the ring within a year. I hate that idea, but that's how I see it.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 11:27
by Tony1244
He hasn't avoided punishment as he lost the fight and payday with AJ. If he's guilty, the punishment is obviously a good thing, but he hasn't avoided punishment.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 11:34
by oogiebe
Tony1244 wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 11:27 He hasn't avoided punishment as he lost the fight and payday with AJ. If he's guilty, the punishment is obviously a good thing, but he hasn't avoided punishment.
Duh. He lost the opportunity, but he can avoid further damage.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 11:48
by Tony1244
oogiebe wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 11:34 Duh. He lost the opportunity, but he can avoid further damage.
Ok Mr. Sunshine. :lol: This is his 2nd flunk?

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 11:57
by Ilya Muromets
Fightnight Scores wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 06:45 Miller will be back in a ring at some point. Boxing has no morals, or shame.

If Margarito boxed again after stuffing hardened plaster into his gloves, fatboy trying to lose some weight will do so as well :OhYes:

THAT is something that there should be zero tolerance for!

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:44
by Enlightened-One
Thomastearns wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 05:49 That's sufficient punishment for the biggest PED test failure in years?
No, but it’s the only punishment he’ll receive.

He clearly deserves more extreme penalties and to be made an example of, but unfortunately this won’t happen. And there’s no point complaining about it.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:52
by candyslim
danconnollyeire wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 10:38 It's funny how bang average fighters can look after getting caught cheating. Lucas Browne for example
True but that could have been age catching up too.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 13:00
by candyslim
Ilya Muromets wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 11:57 THAT is something that there should be zero tolerance for!
Damn right. Removing the padding or implanting something hard in the glove should mean you're never allowed in a boxing gymn never mind boxing ring ever again under any circumstances no exceptions.

Drugs is bad enough but that is despicable and unforgivable.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 13:03
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 13:00 Damn right. Removing the padding or implanting something hard in the glove should mean you're never allowed in a boxing gymn never mind boxing ring ever again under any circumstances no exceptions.

Drugs is bad enough but that is despicable and unforgivable.
The former is a direct cause for assault charges. The latter is bad but to me, not as bad.

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 13:46
by candyslim
Yes agreed. I know it shames me and I do feel guilty, but I try to be honest and truthful: I hope Miller does come back when he's completed whatever punishment is meted out to him. Purely selfish reasons. I always say you can't have too many world level heavyweights. :oops:

No guarantees he is going to be worthy of that description of course once he has to manage without his selection of 'pick-me-ups'.

Now where can I get a hair-shirt?

Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:47
by KiwiRider
It has worryingly gone very quiet.
No pending court action, no word at all.
Excuse my lack of optimisim, but maybe nothing will happen :maybe:

WBO Drop Miller from its Rankings

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 08:16
by oogiebe
The WBO announced early today that Jarrell Miller would be dropped from its rankings. Looking for the other Orgs to follow.

Re: WBO Drop Miller from its Rankings

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 14:25
by punchoutsb
oogiebe wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 08:16 The WBO announced early today that Jarrell Miller would be dropped from its rankings. Looking for the other Orgs to follow.
He'll fight Alexander Frank for the UBO HW title in October 2019 :lol: :lol: