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lazboy wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 01:36 Agree. Being a pressure fighter/initiator is not going to do him favours at his age. Having said that, he did well tactically vs Canelo in that he didn’t trade hooks with the hooker Canelo and went on his jab but I’d say it was a draw Canelo 2.

Yup.

Canelo I - MD for GGG
Canelo II - Draw or it could've gonna either way.

apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 05:08 Contrary to what some people think I believe that GGG's main ability is his boxing skills. He had to neglect that in the past because he had to appeal the public with the 'mexican style' to gain a big market share. If he goes with a trainer like Buddy McGirt or team Loma, GGG would be able to give us some good performances against good opposition. I agree that in the Jacobs fight, GGG didn't look spectacular but he edged it with that knock down. He tried too hard to T/KO Jacobs and it didn't work.

Totally agree mate

apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 05:08 Contrary to what some people think I believe that GGG's main ability is his boxing skills. He had to neglect that in the past because he had to appeal the public with the 'mexican style' to gain a big market share. If he goes with a trainer like Buddy McGirt or team Loma, GGG would be able to give us some good performances against good opposition. I agree that in the Jacobs fight, GGG didn't look spectacular but he edged it with that knock down. He tried too hard to T/KO Jacobs and it didn't work.

Deffo mate. I thought that at the time. Jacobs is no mug and was boxing well. GGG should've just boxed. He must've had the Pirog fight in his mind and thought he could walk through Jacobs.

He still won the Jacobs fight, and it wasn't that close.

Stuarty wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 12:21 Deffo mate. I thought that at the time. Jacobs is no mug and was boxing well. GGG should've just boxed. He must've had the Pirog fight in his mind and thought he could walk through Jacobs.

Yup.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 12:46 He still won the Jacobs fight, and it wasn't that close.

GGG won that but it didn't look like in the Lemieux fight. Also I think GGG fought the best version of Jacobs with those TKO wins over Quillin and Mora.

That GGG performance against Lemuiex was special - rod of a jab broke him down completely!

kbackup408 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 13:15 That GGG performance against Lemuiex was special - rod of a jab broke him down completely!

Yup. GGG showed his fine boxing skills. That was the real/natural style of GGG and not that forced 'mexican style'.

Lemieux isn't a very good fighter.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 13:25 Lemieux isn't a very good fighter.

He's a solid contender but nothing special.
He has a good fan base is the best thing about fighting him

tiny_acres wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 13:53 He's a solid contender but nothing special.
He has a good fan base is the best thing about fighting him

More fringe. I mean he was top 10-15. But shocking how many people rate him. Most overrated puncher in a long time.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 14:10 More fringe. I mean he was top 10-15. But shocking how many people rate him. Most overrated puncher in a long time.

Lemieux would beat Quillin.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 14:14 Lemieux would beat Quillin.

Maybe, your point?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 14:22 Maybe, your point?

Somebody mentioned Jacobs KO of Quillin. I think Golovkin's win was more impressive.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 14:24 Somebody mentioned Jacobs KO of Quillin. I think Golovkin's win was more impressive.

Oh, it wasn't me. They're same level. Jacobs was more surprising, I knew lemieux had nothing for GGG. They could fight 100 times and he wouldn't win a Rd.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 13:25 Lemieux isn't a very good fighter.

Can't stand the prick!

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 14:10 Lemieux isn't a very good fighter

More fringe. I mean he was top 10-15. But shocking how many people rate him. Most overrated puncher in a long time.

LOL With that win over N'Dam N'Jikam and that crazy KO of Curtis Stevens, Lemieux is above Jermall and Andrade at 160 lbs. Get your facts straight!

Stuarty wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 01:08 Can't stand the prick!

Me either, oozes frenchness. Not a good quality.

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 04:10 LOL With that win over N'Dam N'Jikam and that crazy KO of Curtis Stevens, Lemieux is above Jermall and Andrade at 160 lbs. Get your facts straight!

I had to set you straight on andrade, son. Lemieux wouldn't land a glove on either of them. Get your eyes straight.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 08:16 I had to set you straight on andrade, son. Lemieux wouldn't land a glove on either of them. Get your eyes straight.

You're talking out of your as.s based on nothing. What opponents Jermall and Andrade schooled at 160lbs that are better wins than Lemieux's wins over N'dam and Stevens to prove a glimpse of what you're fantasize ? Kautondokwa, Centeno Jr? lol

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 08:47 You're talking out of your as.s based on nothing. What opponents Jermall and Andrade schooled at 160lbs that are better wins than Lemieux's wins over N'dam and Stevens to prove a glimpse of what you're fantasize ? Kautondokwa, Centeno Jr? lol

Lemieux is fighting at 168. So why don't you start a thread about how nobody has ever seen him fight? not long ago andrade was part of your bizarre Charlo vendetta until I fixed you. Don't bite the hand that feeds!

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 04:10 LOL With that win over N'Dam N'Jikam and that crazy KO of Curtis Stevens, Lemieux is above Jermall and Andrade at 160 lbs. Get your facts straight!

Apologies for butting into someone else’s debate, but Lemieux’s victory over Hassan N'Dam took place almost four years ago and the Curtis Steven’s win happened more than two years ago, with the American never being classed amongst the top-ten 160lb-ers by The RING or ESPN. It's not a particularly impressive victory.

In my mind, time doesn’t stand still and all fighters inevitably reach a certain point during their career where they're on the decline. Also, David Lemieux now competes at 168lbs.

I do agree with those who believe that the current iteration of a weight-drained 160lbs version of the Canadian puncher would very likely suffer ones-sided defeats to the likes of Demetrius Andrade and Jermall Charlo.

By all means, take over. I won't indulge him with another post.

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 08:47 You're talking out of your as.s based on nothing. What opponents Jermall and Andrade schooled at 160lbs that are better wins than Lemieux's wins over N'dam and Stevens to prove a glimpse of what you're fantasize ? Kautondokwa, Centeno Jr? lol

Is there anybody that can give a straight factual answer to my question ?

???

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 08:15 Me either, oozes frenchness. Not a good quality.