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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 15:46 Helenius can be a decent fight for a lot of the guys at hw. Just wasn’t up to it against Whyte that’s all.

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 17:52 Helenius will get beaten down by Kownacki. So he beat Erkan Teper, so what. He had two tough fights with Yury Bykhautsou. One a scheduled six rounder! It's an easy win for Kownacki to pad his record before fed to Wilder sometime later this year.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 18:50 Helinus has never impressed me

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 17:52 Helenius will get beaten down by Kownacki. So he beat Erkan Teper, so what. He had two tough fights with Yury Bykhautsou. One a scheduled six rounder! It's an easy win for Kownacki to pad his record before fed to Wilder sometime later this year.

jamamb wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 20:07 i mean iago kildze and chuck wasnt easy fights for kownacki, i still dont rate him high enough to put him past having some trouble

dagilechia wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 17:42 he got brutally knocked out by Johann Duhaupas

Contendeh wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 15:15 I am not trying to be a smart aleck here or anything, but do you know him/his training regiment?

I find it hard to believe he does any kind of serious roadwork.

dagilechia wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 17:42 he got brutally knocked out by Johann Duhaupas

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑26 Apr 2019, 23:37 But his last fight was a good KO win over Taper. I don't really like to see this fight because I like them both, but at this point in H's career K should win it pretty easily I would say.

Lackeos wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 00:58 Helenius is better than Szpilka and Washington. Helenius would be among the best wins on Kownacki's resume. Also a productive fight, considering that Kownacki struggled with Martin, who is around the same caliber as Helenius.


He has some of the best stamina of any heavyweight. He threw 141 punches in 4:09 against Gerald Washington. It's pretty unlikely that he doesn't do cardio.


More recently, Helenius knocked out one of Duhaupas's conquerors.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:02 Helenius promising career was derailed by injuries, awful promotion, and lack of facilities/opportunity perpetuating apathy.

When Helenius is on he'd be a hard out for any current heavyweight. He quit caring for a while and his weight and results show. He'd been sparring no names out of some garage in Finland, and I'm sure that isn't the best situation for a top level fighter. Some of his social media posts are almost depressing when you see him posting about a great day of sparring and his partners look like investment bankers.

For this fight he will be coming off his best win in almost ten years, and has been sparring with Deontay Wilder.

It won't surprise me one bit to see 19-1 on Kownacki's resume after this fight.

jamamb wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:10 he should win but hes just not good enough to where i think its defo easy work, as i said he got sent to the hospital by kiladze and just barely got over the line vs martin. helenius was at least hurting whyte early and may be a lot more durable then the loss to duhaupas shows (whyte never came close to stopping him for example)

if helly is motivated he can cause kownacki some issues, this is becaus kownacki himself isnt really that good, not because i rate helly

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:06 I'd be shocked if Kow lost this one.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:11 Boxing math rarely works, but the closest opponents to Helenius size wise that Kow has faced are Martin and Washington. Both are absolutely terrible and Kow still struggled with Martin. Helenius has a better jab and more power than anyone Kow has faced so far. He also has heart and a good chin. I think this is a terrible "keep busy" fight for Kow and am still very doubtful it happens. There are much easier guys to keep busy for Wilder on.

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:16 Maybe so but I'd still be shocked. He went 14 tough rounds with Yury Bykhautsou. Kow could fight someone easier, but I doubt he'd have much trouble with The Nordic Nightmare at this point.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:19 Seven of those rounds fought with a broken right hand.*

*allegedly

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:22 LOL! Even still. I love that the rematch was scheduled for six.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:26 I'm admittedly a Helenius fan who has followed his entire pro career...for whatever that's worth!

jamamb wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:10 he should win but hes just not good enough to where i think its defo easy work, as i said he got sent to the hospital by kiladze and just barely got over the line vs martin. helenius was at least hurting whyte early and may be a lot more durable then the loss to duhaupas shows (whyte never came close to stopping him for example)

if helly is motivated he can cause kownacki some issues, this is becaus kownacki himself isnt really that good, not because i rate helly

punchoutsb wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:11 Boxing math rarely works, but the closest opponents to Helenius size wise that Kow has faced are Martin and Washington. Both are absolutely terrible and Kow still struggled with Martin. Helenius has a better jab and more power than anyone Kow has faced so far. He also has heart and a good chin. I think this is a terrible "keep busy" fight for Kow and am still very doubtful it happens. There are much easier guys to keep busy for Wilder on.

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Apr 2019, 14:16 Maybe so but I'd still be shocked. He went 14 tough rounds with Yury Bykhautsou. Kow could fight someone easier, but I doubt he'd have much trouble with The Nordic Nightmare at this point.