Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 20 May 2019, 12:22
"Deontay Wilder is a crackhead" - Dillon Whyte
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Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 20 May 2019, 12:49
I’d be surprised if all the top HW’s or boxers aren’t doping to various degrees.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 04:47
Only a small percentage of fighters are ever tested by the WBC’s CBP program and it’s extremely rare that they’re tested out-of-competition.
This isn’t guesswork on my part, since the WBC publishes their testing figures on a quarterly basis.
Whenever fighters test positive for banned substances and are subsequently fined (i.e. Alexander Povetkin), the money isn’t reinvested into performing additional testing. The WBC confirmed this when they refused to disclose what they do with this revenue stream.
I guess you might also find situations whereby fighters employ unscrupulous doctors to request that their patient be allowed to consume prohibited medication under the pretence they’re treating a “legitimate” medical condition, by requesting a TUE exemption (i.e. Luis Ortiz). This is a legal form of cheating, but I'm not suggesting this situation applies to 'The Bronze Bomber'.
The bizarre thing is that the best people to prescribe a tailored program of performance enhancing drugs to athletes (out-of-competition) are doctors, with the same medical professionals also holding a position of authority to be allowed to request TUE exemptions. It’s an unfortunate drug cheating double-whammy!
Deontay Wilder will probably be tested, but only during his training camps. Like most CBP fighters, he is free to consume as many PED’s or recreational drugs as he deems fit between fights.
My opinion might seem harsh, but what I’ve written is simply a real-world fact (coupled with a very small element of hearsay).
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 05:50
You don't know what diuretics are, do you?HomicideHenry wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 14:22 I imagine he's clean. If he's guilty of anything it's diuretics.
People forget he was a basketball player. You want lean muscle mass and low body fat for that kind of sport anyways. He's always looked that way by and large, If the speculation is because of his kayo power, its because of leverage and speed. Thomas Hearns was a effing bean pole and hit like a ton of bricks. His body is not much different than someone like LeBron James.
I think he's clean, too.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 12:44
I think his slim waist suggests he is clean. AJ's waist heavily suggests HGH at some stage.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 13:28
How does a slim waist suggest that he is clean? Have you seen the waists on modern doped up bodybuilders? The extraordinarily low body fat percentage in fact suggests the opposite, as does Wilder's behavior.
"fighters employ unscrupulous doctors"
I think a lot, if not most, of the sports drug business involves unscrupulous doctors. Those who know about such things say that Miller's brew was not haphazard but was in medically correct proportions. He wasn't buying his drugs on the street on his own he was probably being supervised.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 16:26
To lose water weight.clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 05:50 You don't know what diuretics are, do you?
I think he's clean, too.
It's also a banned substance.
The man I fought, J'Leon Love, was stripped of the NABF title because he tested positive for a diuretic.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 16:34
there is really no body type for sportsmen that says no peds. you can be a total fat tub of goo like james toney and still on peds. plus different peds change the body in different ways
that said, there are some signs that certainly arowse suspcon. like the classic bodybuilder gut
that said, there are some signs that certainly arowse suspcon. like the classic bodybuilder gut
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 19:21
Dehydration is definitely an advantage any sensible heavyweight would be after. Thank god they have 24 hours after the weigh in to rehydrate before the fight and...
Hang on....
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 21 May 2019, 19:46
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 19:21 Dehydration is definitely an advantage any sensible heavyweight would be after. Thank god they have 24 hours after the weigh in to rehydrate before the fight and...
Hang on....
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 22 May 2019, 02:46
jamamb wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 16:34 there is really no body type for sportsmen that says no peds. you can be a total fat tub of goo like james toney and still on peds. plus different peds change the body in different ways
that said, there are some signs that certainly arowse suspcon . like the classic bodybuilder gut
Like aggressive behavior, "roid rage"
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 22 May 2019, 13:19
Add another subject to the long, long listclopixolacuphase wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 19:21 Dehydration is definitely an advantage any sensible heavyweight would be after. Thank god they have 24 hours after the weigh in to rehydrate before the fight and...
Hang on....
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 22 May 2019, 16:17
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 16:26 To lose water weight.
It's also a banned substance.
The man I fought, J'Leon Love, was stripped of the NABF title because he tested positive for a diuretic.
Then you should have been given the win retrospectively! Henry 1 and 0
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 22 May 2019, 16:26
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 13:28 How does a slim waist suggest that he is clean? Have you seen the waists on modern doped up bodybuilders? The extraordinarily low body fat percentage in fact suggests the opposite, as does Wilder's behavior.
"fighters employ unscrupulous doctors"
I think a lot, if not most, of the sports drug business involves unscrupulous doctors. Those who know about such things say that Miller's brew was not haphazard but was in medically correct proportions. He wasn't buying his drugs on the street on his own he was probably being supervised.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 22 May 2019, 16:27
I follow bodybuilding, and there waists only appear tiny during the pose they are performing, in-between poses their waists blow back out. The days of small waists are done in modern bodybuilding. Maybe in the classic division there still tight around the waist but in the pro open division the turtle bellies are fukin hinge, hidden through breathing exercises on stageIlya Muromets wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 13:28 How does a slim waist suggest that he is clean? Have you seen the waists on modern doped up bodybuilders? The extraordinarily low body fat percentage in fact suggests the opposite, as does Wilder's behavior.
"fighters employ unscrupulous doctors"
I think a lot, if not most, of the sports drug business involves unscrupulous doctors. Those who know about such things say that Miller's brew was not haphazard but was in medically correct proportions. He wasn't buying his drugs on the street on his own he was probably being supervised.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 22 May 2019, 18:16
I chuckled out loud at this one matewatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 16:17 Then you should have been given the win retrospectively! Henry 1 and 0
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 22 May 2019, 20:14
Wilder isn't juicing. He's very ordinary. He's a tall, thin HW whose rangy and fast.
His power comes from his speed. He's not as powerful as he seems. Today's HWs are so limited - and clearly intimidated as Brezeale was - that they leave themselves open to be hit.
Why do I say his power isn't that real? No trolling...he couldn't even KO Charlie Zelenoff who Wilder had real beef with....and Charlie Z is like 160-170 pounds...
His power comes from his speed. He's not as powerful as he seems. Today's HWs are so limited - and clearly intimidated as Brezeale was - that they leave themselves open to be hit.
Why do I say his power isn't that real? No trolling...he couldn't even KO Charlie Zelenoff who Wilder had real beef with....and Charlie Z is like 160-170 pounds...
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 23 May 2019, 03:51
Bjl12 wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 20:14 Wilder isn't juicing. He's very ordinary. He's a tall, thin HW whose rangy and fast.
His power comes from his speed. He's not as powerful as he seems. Today's HWs are so limited - and clearly intimidated as Brezeale was - that they leave themselves open to be hit.
Why do I say his power isn't that real? No trolling...he couldn't even KO Charlie Zelenoff who Wilder had real beef with....and Charlie Z is like 160-170 pounds...
Charley Z KO'd Wilder and then Wilder went crying and running to hide in the locker room. That's how Charley tells it anyway.
Re: Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested?
Posted: 23 May 2019, 04:02
Hahaha i watch that hahaha