Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo

[Enlightened-One]

what size is bjs at mw, average or slightly big i guess?

He's only half an inch taller than Golovkin. And the Kazakh is much more muscular than the Brit. Yet bizarrely, no one claims that GGG is a "giant middleweight".

I think Ricky is talking out of his áss!

[Ricky]

Enlightened One talking about height further proves that Fergus is Clueless.

BJS was visibly bigger than Lemieux who is also too big to be a MW (evidenced by the fact he lost belts on the scales).

[Enlightened-One]

Enlightened One talking about height further proves that Fergus is Clueless.

BJS was visibly bigger than Lemieux who is also too big to be a MW (evidenced by the fact he lost belts on the scales).

I referred to height and physique, but you prefer to lie, by pretending I said otherwise, since it creates the illusion you've undermined a blatantly misrepresented version of my claim. You're employing dishonest debating tactics.

So I'll say it again...

Billy Joe isn't a "giant middleweight" and nor is David Lemieux.

Danny Jacobs and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. are/were "giant middleweights".

[Ricky]

Billy Joe isn't a "giant middleweight" and nor is David Lemieux.

Danny Jacobs and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. are/were giant middleweights.

Fergus: BJS isn't a giant middleweight because I know of 2 middleweights who are bigger.



Weak.

[Enlightened-One]

Fergus: BJS isn't a giant middleweight because I know of 2 middleweights who are bigger.



Weak.

No, I mentioned GGG. I also named Eubank Jr.

What's with all your persistent lies?

Why keep misrepresenting what I wrote?

Are you that feeble that you can't engage in honest debate, so you have to keep lying in order to save face?

[Ricky]

Here's Saunders scaling in as a Cruiserweight.

Now, back under your rock fergus/EO.

[Enlightened-One]

Here's Saunders scaling in as a Cruiserweight.

Now, back under your rock fergus/EO.

It was a one-off bout, taken at short notice, after a year of inactivity and without an official weight. He was also very fleshy and carrying a lot of flab.

A lot of middleweights reydrate to 175lbs+ by th time they enter the ring. Billy Joe didn't have to make an official weight for that bout either.

• Daniel Geale was 182lb for the Miguel Cotto bout
• Golovkin was 174lbs against Maritrosyan and 173lbs versus Rubio
• Matt Korobov was 174lbs against Andy Lee
• Marco Antonio Rubio was 182lbs against GGG
• Uzcategui was 175lbs versus Korobov
• Gabriel Rosado was 175lbs against Peter Quillin
• Chavez Jr. was 180lbs against Zbik
• Kelly Pavlik was 178lbs for the Sergio Martinez bout
• Lemieux was 179lbs versus O'Sullivan

Once again, you've not proven that Billy Joe Saunders is a "giant middleweight".

[Ricky]

It was a one-off bout, taken at short notice, after a year of inactivity and without an official weight. He was also very fleshy and carrying a lot of flab.

A lot of middleweights reydrate to 175lbs+ by th time they enter the ring. Billy Joe didn't have to make an official weight for that bout either.

• Daniel Geale was 182lb for the Miguel Cotto bout
• Golovkin was 174lbs against Maritrosyan and 173lbs versus Rubio
• Matt Korobov was 174lbs against Andy Lee
• Marco Antonio Rubio was 182lbs against GGG
• Uzcategui was 175lbs versus Korobov
• Gabriel Rosado was 175lbs against Peter Quillin
• Chavez Jr. was 180lbs against Zbik
• Kelly Pavlik was 178lbs for the Sergio Martinez bout
• Lemieux was 179lbs versus O'Sullivan

Once again, you've not proven that Billy Joe Saunders is a "giant middleweight".

I just did, it's in the picture. He scaled in - after a training camp, and with visible abdominal muscle - over 178lb. Now stfu you dickface pudendum, nobody likes you.

[Enlightened-One]

Now stfu you dickface pudendum, nobody likes you.

It’s great to see people conceding defeat by resorting to insults rather than attempting to address their opponents’ counter-arguments!



Billy Joe Saunders a “giant middleweight”? Gimme a break!

[Ricky]

It’s great to see people conceding defeat by resorting to insults rather than attempting to address their opponents’ counter-arguments!



Billy Joe Saunders a “giant middleweight”? Gimme a break!

Insulting you isn't conceding anything, it's just the truth, you're a total loser with no friends, and even less boxing knowledge. Foad

[DrDuke]

Different types of defences. BJS has a more outfighting style, while Canelo's style is more based on head and body movement and blocking. But overall I gotta vote for Canelo just because for the moment he has proved his skills at a higher level.

[oogiebe]

Enlightened One talking about height further proves that Fergus is Clueless.

BJS was visibly bigger than Lemieux who is also too big to be a MW (evidenced by the fact he lost belts on the scales).

Who's Fergus?

[Ricky]

Who's Fergus?

Fergus was EnlightenmentOnes previous account, he's a multi-banned troll.

[oogiebe]

Fergus was EnlightenmentOnes previous account, he's a multi-banned troll.

I knew he had aliases, but geez how many?

[Ricky]

I knew he had aliases, but geez how many?

His next one should be 'IDontKnowShitAboutBoxing'.

[oogiebe]

His next one should be 'IDontKnowShitAboutBoxing'.

He was also Verlicht and another one related to being "enlightened."

[Bjl12]

Canelo has fought far superior opposition and still looked pretty special defensively at times.

BJS has looked better than Canelo, but against lesser competition.

Canelo gets the nod for me