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Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 09:22
by Enlightened-One
jamamb wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 09:19
what size is bjs at mw, average or slightly big i guess?
He's only half an inch taller than Golovkin. And the Kazakh is much more muscular than the Brit. Yet bizarrely, no one claims that GGG is a "giant middleweight".
I think Ricky is talking out of his áss!
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 09:45
by Ricky
Enlightened One talking about height further proves that Fergus is Clueless.
BJS was visibly bigger than Lemieux who is also too big to be a MW (evidenced by the fact he lost belts on the scales).
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 09:48
by Enlightened-One
Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 09:45
Enlightened One talking about height further proves that Fergus is Clueless.
BJS was visibly bigger than Lemieux who is also too big to be a MW (evidenced by the fact he lost belts on the scales).
I referred to height and physique, but you prefer to lie, by pretending I said otherwise, since it creates the illusion you've undermined a blatantly misrepresented version of my claim. You're employing dishonest debating tactics.
So I'll say it again...
Billy Joe isn't a "giant middleweight" and nor is David Lemieux.
Danny Jacobs and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. are/were "giant middleweights".
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 09:49
by Ricky
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 09:48
Billy Joe isn't a "giant middleweight" and nor is David Lemieux.
Danny Jacobs and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. are/were giant middleweights.
Fergus: BJS isn't a giant middleweight because I know of 2 middleweights who are bigger.
Weak.
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 09:53
by Enlightened-One
Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 09:49
Fergus: BJS isn't a giant middleweight because I know of 2 middleweights who are bigger.
Weak.
No, I mentioned GGG. I also named Eubank Jr.
What's with all your persistent lies?
Why keep misrepresenting what I wrote?
Are you that feeble that you can't engage in honest debate, so you have to keep lying in order to save face?
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 09:53
by Ricky
Here's Saunders scaling in as a Cruiserweight.
Now, back under your rock fergus/EO.
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 10:03
by Enlightened-One
Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 09:53
Here's Saunders scaling in as a Cruiserweight.
Now, back under your rock fergus/EO.
It was a one-off bout, taken at short notice, after a year of inactivity and without an official weight. He was also very fleshy and carrying a lot of flab.
A lot of middleweights reydrate to 175lbs+ by th time they enter the ring. Billy Joe didn't have to make an official weight for that bout either.
• Daniel Geale was 182lb for the Miguel Cotto bout
• Golovkin was 174lbs against Maritrosyan and 173lbs versus Rubio
• Matt Korobov was 174lbs against Andy Lee
• Marco Antonio Rubio was 182lbs against GGG
• Uzcategui was 175lbs versus Korobov
• Gabriel Rosado was 175lbs against Peter Quillin
• Chavez Jr. was 180lbs against Zbik
• Kelly Pavlik was 178lbs for the Sergio Martinez bout
• Lemieux was 179lbs versus O'Sullivan
Once again, you've not proven that Billy Joe Saunders is a "giant middleweight".
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 10:14
by Ricky
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 10:03
It was a one-off bout, taken at short notice, after a year of inactivity and without an official weight. He was also very fleshy and carrying a lot of flab.
A lot of middleweights reydrate to 175lbs+ by th time they enter the ring. Billy Joe didn't have to make an official weight for that bout either.
• Daniel Geale was 182lb for the Miguel Cotto bout
• Golovkin was 174lbs against Maritrosyan and 173lbs versus Rubio
• Matt Korobov was 174lbs against Andy Lee
• Marco Antonio Rubio was 182lbs against GGG
• Uzcategui was 175lbs versus Korobov
• Gabriel Rosado was 175lbs against Peter Quillin
• Chavez Jr. was 180lbs against Zbik
• Kelly Pavlik was 178lbs for the Sergio Martinez bout
• Lemieux was 179lbs versus O'Sullivan
Once again, you've not proven that Billy Joe Saunders is a "giant middleweight".
I just did, it's in the picture. He scaled in - after a training camp, and with visible abdominal muscle - over 178lb. Now stfu you dickface pudendum, nobody likes you.
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 10:20
by Enlightened-One
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 10:24
by Ricky
Insulting you isn't conceding anything, it's just the truth, you're a total loser with no friends, and even less boxing knowledge. Foad
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 11:01
by DrDuke
Different types of defences. BJS has a more outfighting style, while Canelo's style is more based on head and body movement and blocking. But overall I gotta vote for Canelo just because for the moment he has proved his skills at a higher level.
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 11:06
by oogiebe
Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 09:45
Enlightened One talking about height further proves that Fergus is Clueless.
BJS was visibly bigger than Lemieux who is also too big to be a MW (evidenced by the fact he lost belts on the scales).
Who's Fergus?
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 11:15
by Ricky
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 11:06
Who's Fergus?
Fergus was EnlightenmentOnes previous account, he's a multi-banned troll.
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 11:18
by oogiebe
Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 11:15
Fergus was EnlightenmentOnes previous account, he's a multi-banned troll.
I knew he had aliases, but geez how many?
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 11:20
by Ricky
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 11:18
I knew he had aliases, but geez how many?
His next one should be 'IDontKnowShitAboutBoxing'.
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 21 May 2019, 11:24
by oogiebe
Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 11:20
His next one should be 'IDontKnowShitAboutBoxing'.
He was also Verlicht and another one related to being "enlightened."
Re: Who's better defensively? BJS or Canelo
Posted: 22 May 2019, 20:00
by Bjl12
Canelo has fought far superior opposition and still looked pretty special defensively at times.
BJS has looked better than Canelo, but against lesser competition.
Canelo gets the nod for me
