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gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 16:11 It's good that it's getting viewers really. It means Wilder is starting to be a name that matters more to the general public. The numbers will double or triple when he's fighting an opponent that people actually think is dangerous.

He had like 2 times that against duhaupas. His views are decreasing.

Hmm...that seems odd. I would think he's as over now as ever, but I guess not.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 16:11 It's good that it's getting viewers really. It means Wilder is starting to be a name that matters more to the general public. The numbers will double or triple when he's fighting an opponent that people actually think is dangerous.

I guess your right. Anything that gives boxing a boost in the US is not a bad thing.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 16:43 Hmm...that seems odd. I would think he's as over now as ever, but I guess not.

Pretty sure the Duhaupas fight was on NBC which is available in over 100m homes?

That peaked 3m viewers.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:04 Pretty sure the Duhaupas fight was on NBC which is available in over 100m homes?

That peaked 3m viewers.

Even on Showtime this isn't a big number for him.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 16:43 Hmm...that seems odd. I would think he's as edh now as ever, but I guess not.

He might be, I just dropped HBO and Showtime today. I'm sure a lot of fans did. Quite easy to stream, rarely good cards and boxing does suck right now.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:07 Even on Showtime this isn't a big number for him.

The only other person doing similar or better numbers on Showtime is Mikey Garcia.

Even Spence ain’t avg that much.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:11 The only other person doing similar or better numbers on Showtime is Mikey Garcia.

Even Spence ain’t avg that much.

I was talking about wilder. This isn't his highest rating on Showtime.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 16:32 He had like 2 times that against duhaupas. His views are decreasing.

Wasn't the Duhaupus fight on over the air network television, and not premium cable?

That would account for the greater viewership.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:04 Pretty sure the Duhaupas fight was on NBC which is available in over 100m homes?

That peaked 3m viewers.

Yeah, that's what I think.

Either NBC or FOX network. Their viewership greatly exceeds SHOWTIME's.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:25 Yeah, that's what I think.

Either NBC or FOX network. Their viewership greatly exceeds SHOWTIME's.

Of course. It was free TV.

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:26 Of course. It was free TV.

Yes. Free boxing is better!

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:16 I was talking about wilder. This isn't his highest rating on Showtime.

It’s his 3rd highest on Showtime after

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Let’s not forget those about went more than 1 round.

So 990k tuned in to round 1, do you not reckon it would have picked up had it gone a few more rounds?

SenorPipino wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 17:33 Yes. Free boxing is better!

No such thing, but yes being on a basic package would account for more views, but how many years ago against a less known fighter? He's no more popular now than he was then. Boxing is to such a low now that is diehard fans know it sucks.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 18:07 It’s his 3rd highest on Showtime after

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Let’s not forget those about went more than 1 round.

So 990k tuned in to round 1, do you not reckon it would have picked up had it gone a few more rounds?

Maybe a little, nothing substantial unless it's a war.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 18:29 Maybe a little, nothing substantial unless it's a war.

Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to find figures for Russell-Martínez yet.

Is 900k on cable considered good on that side of the pond then? My first reaction on seeing the numbers, with 6k less than capacity in the venue (after freebies as well, apparently), and employing a company to move people forwards to make it look more full on TV, was that the event was a bit of a flop in corporate terms.

Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 21:26 Is 900k on cable considered good on that side of the pond then? My first reaction on seeing the numbers, with 6k less than capacity in the venue (after freebies as well, apparently), and employing a company to move people forwards to make it look more full on TV, was that the event was a bit of a flop in corporate terms.

Boxing isn't doing very well in the states.

Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 21:26 Is 900k on cable considered good on that side of the pond then? My first reaction on seeing the numbers, with 6k less than capacity in the venue (after freebies as well, apparently), and employing a company to move people forwards to make it look more full on TV, was that the event was a bit of a flop in corporate terms.

Showtime very rarely are hitting 1m. I think it’s a good number. Thing is, a lot of people steam Showtime as well. That including, I believe it did hit over 1m.

I just don’t think many people still have Showtime, let’s say compared to a year ago. Some of the same fighters on Showtime are appearing on Fox and all doing nearly or above 2m viewers.

It’s not the boxers, it’s the channel.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 21:29 Showtime very rarely are hitting 1m. I think it’s a good number. Thing is, a lot of people steam Showtime as well. That including, I believe it did hit over 1m.

I just don’t think many people still have Showtime, let’s say compared to a year ago. Some of the same fighters on Showtime are appearing on Fox and all doing nearly or above 2m viewers.

It’s not the boxers, it’s the channel.

That's still shit. When I was a kid Larry Holmes wasn't popular, he pulled 46 million against Ernie shavers.

And a popular guy, Muhammad Ali, attracted an estimated 90 million US viewers the night he became the first 3 time heavyweight champion by defeating Leon Spinks.

That fight was televised live on ABC.

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 21:27 Boxing isn't doing very well in the states.

Out with super fights - it’s hard shift to flog tickets.

Even AJ card at Madison as some left - that would sell in 15-20 minutes in UK.

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 May 2019, 16:25 Best way to become a crap opponent is to be beaten by Wilder. While I rate AJ over Wilder, if Deontay won, I'm sure we'd be seeing all sorts of reasons why it wasn't legit.

Good one amigo!!

Wilder-bashing will never stop...no matter what he does.

3132DW wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 02:09 Out with super fights - it’s hard shift to flog tickets.

Even AJ card at Madison as some left - that would sell in 15-20 minutes in UK.

Why would you expect that AJ's national hero status would transfer to another country?

Even in Europe, Joshua will never be close to being as popular as he is in the UK. One of the few recent fighters whose popularity has transcended national borders has been Manny Pacquiao, whose global draw is rare among today's fighters..

i think a lot of ppl have said breazeale is crappy for a while, not just suddenly after the weekend. i recall seeing it on forums for a long time, since he arguably got a lucky decision vs kassi at least. the reality is though he was a legit top 10 fighter still