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"Jumping" in and "lunging" in are two different things. "



What's the difference?

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 12:01 "Jumping" in and "lunging" in are two different things. "



What's the difference?

Lunging you tend to get your head over your knees. Your whole base gets out of whack and you leave yourself open and off balance.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 12:02 Lunging you tend to get your head over your knees. Your whole base gets out of whack and you leave yourself open and off balance.

Exhibit A: Synonym for lunge: jump. Your honor I rest my case.




lunge1
/lənj/
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verb
gerund or present participle: lunging
make a lunge.
"John lunged forward and grabbed him by the throat"
synonyms: thrust, pounce, dive, launch oneself, jump, spring, leap, rush, charge, move suddenly, make a grab
"McCulloch raised his cudgel and lunged at him"
make a sudden forward thrust with (a part of the body or a weapon).
"Billy lunged his spear at the fish"

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 10:32 I suspect The Fat King of Boxing prefers authentic tacos.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 20:24

Don’t make me go all RK_Y on your ass.

(Oops I did it again)

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 21:17 Don’t make me go all RK_Y on your ass.

(Oops I did it again)

Not sure what you did to Ricky's @ss, but leave my @ss alone you perv.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 21:20 Not sure what you did to Ricky's @ss, but leave my @ss alone you perv.

Are you accusing me of being Homise . . . never mind.

I honestly think that TFKoB takes Usyk.

Actually Usyk HAS competed at HEAVYWEIGHT, and MANY times.

What do I mean?

Usyk competed in the WSB at the Heavy class, AND, a Cruiserweight is just a Heavyweight that has to cut weight temporarily to compete at the 200 limit. Cruisers don't weigh 200 pounds, and they don't fight at 200 pounds, they simply cut weight for the Cruiser class and gain weight again for the fight. So, as a Heavy, Usyk doesn't have to cut any weight to fight and he'll be exactly the fighter we have seen already. If Usyk has been competing at 210-215lbs then that is what we've already seen.

Haye fought at Cruiser at 210-215. We saw the same fighter at Heavy.

We have seen Wilder fight at Heavy at a reported 209. Wilder is one fine Heavy at that weight.

Additionally, there is a tacit acknowledgement among many boxing writers that the undisputed Cruiser champion is automatically a top 10 Heavy even if that position is only #10. There is NO speculation, a Cruiser is a Heavy.

Usyk beats Ruiz by UD. Ruiz doesn't have the wheels and handling that Usyk has and will get turned and then consistently shot up.

If this last fight has taught us anything, we don't know unless it happens.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 22:10 Actually Usyk HAS competed at HEAVYWEIGHT, and MANY times.

What do I mean?

Usyk competed in the WSB at the Heavy class, AND, a Cruiserweight is just a Heavyweight that has to cut weight temporarily to compete at the 200 limit. Cruisers don't weigh 200 pounds, and they don't fight at 200 pounds, they simply cut weight for the Cruiser class and gain weight again for the fight. So, as a Heavy, Usyk doesn't have to cut any weight to fight and he'll be exactly the fighter we have seen already. If Usyk has been competing at 210-215lbs then that is what we've already seen.

Haye fought at Cruiser at 210-215. We saw the same fighter at Heavy.

We have seen Wilder fight at Heavy at a reported 209. Wilder is one fine Heavy at that weight.

Additionally, there is a tacit acknowledgement among many boxing writers that the undisputed Cruiser champion is automatically a top 10 Heavy even if that position is only #10. There is NO speculation, a Cruiser is a Heavy.

Usyk beats Ruiz by UD. Ruiz doesn't have the wheels and handling that Usyk has and will get turned and then consistently shot up.

In fact the original weight divisions in boxing classified anyone over 175 pounds as a heavyweight. When was that changed? In the 1960's or 70's?

"Ruiz vs. Usyk, who wins ? "

Usyk. He will run rings around him. Next question.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 22:26 In fact the original weight divisions in boxing classified anyone over 175 pounds as a heavyweight. When was that changed? In the 1960's or 70's?

The WBC was the first group to sanction the Cruiserweight division when it sanctioned a match between Marvin Camel and Mate Parlov on December 8, 1979,

sturm vogel wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 22:37 The WBC was the first group to sanction the Cruiserweight division when it sanctioned a match between Marvin Camel and Mate Parlov on December 8, 1979,

Marvin Camel was an American Indian from the Flathead tribe. I had an Apache friend who was a font of indian jokes. Sample: "Do you know why they call them the Flathead tribe?" Answer: Because the Flathead women are so fat and like to be on top.

If u want to hear more I'll tell them but you don't so the hell with it.

I need to see Usyk fight a couple of heavyweights first. I've seen tons of posts on various sites with hypothetical Usyk heavyweight matchups, but the guy has never fought in the division. Usyk could easily UD him, or he could get battered and concussed by a 268 pound monster. Too soon to tell.

Joshua didn't have the speed or ability to get out of the way of Ruiz' hard punching flurries that totally overpowered him. Usyk is FAR more elusive. He'd make Ruiz look like a stick in the mud and take potshots at him.