BoxRec

handsofstone wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019, 09:29 Its as if that failed test never happened, I genuinely believe Joshua's rise to stardom has played a crucial part in the rise of popularity in Fury, I'm not disregarding the fact of his performance against Wilder earned a lot of praise and the depression saga tugged on the heartstrings but Brits love nothing more than bashing the top dog(for want of a better word) and Joshua is the biggest star, make no mistake if Anthony Joshua didn't exist then I'm in no doubt that Tyson Fury would be ridiculed the way Joshua is right now but since AJs rise Fury's became a cult hero

I'm not stating my opinion as fact but I personally don't buy into the whole depression angle from Fury, don't get me wrong ive no doubt losing his belts and ballooning up in weight would've made him unhappy but ive got family and friends like him, makes a pudendum of things all on his own making then play the depression card, I may be well out of line but ive got first hand experience of behaviour like his, it may sound harsh and if theres people on here who suffer from depression then I mean no offence but IMO Fury's unhappiness was more or less all alcohol related and probably a nice little smokescreen for PED use

keirw wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019, 10:39 I know the IBF stripped Fury, but I don't think that was 2 weeks after he won the belt.

Pretty sure they instilled a mandatory first, at least.

I do think they will strip Ruiz and Fury will fight for the vacant strap, just not on Saturday, it will happen later in the year.

As good as Frank and Bob are with the WBO, I don't think even they can work their dark magic this quickly.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019, 12:44 I don’t think he will be stripped.
A few people have mentioned that he has only been displaying two belts but I saw a video today outside Aztec stadium of him holding WBA, WBO and IBO.
I think it’s as simple as his own belt hadn’t arrived. The WBO belt he has now is the ‘standard’ one without the banner across the bottom that Joshua’s had.

keirw wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019, 10:39 I know the IBF stripped Fury, but I don't think that was 2 weeks after he won the belt.

Pretty sure they instilled a mandatory first, at least.

I do think they will strip Ruiz and Fury will fight for the vacant strap, just not on Saturday, it will happen later in the year.

As good as Frank and Bob are with the WBO, I don't think even they can work their dark magic this quickly.

jameswilson wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019, 11:21 I think I remember it being very very soon after Fury won in Germany that the IBF announced it was fight the mando or lose the belt.


On the WBO subject. Usyk is gonna be in that mix. I expect him to be very well avoided by the top dogs.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019, 13:28 I believe the ibf mandated the winner fight glazkov before wlad fought fury.

keirw wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019, 17:07 OK, so the IBF stripped Fury much sooner than I thought they did.

But if the mandatory was alresdy set prior to the Wlad fight, then that makes sense. Wlad probably had an agreement in place with Glazkov and would have fought him next had he won.

Without a mandatory in place I can't see how the WBO could possibly strip Ruiz for not fighting one. Not that it matters, Fury will be made mandatory after beating Schwartz, with Ruiz tied up with Joshua and Whyte and Rivas due to fight each other.

That will leave the likes of Zheng, Sprong and Fa to face Fury. We all should have expected nothing less the moment Fury signed with Warren.

Coco wrote: ↑13 Jun 2019, 18:35 Welcome to heavyweight boxing!

coneye wrote: ↑13 Jun 2019, 18:52 Wilder is set to fight Ortiz , AJ has the rematch , don't hear Fury demanding or asking for the winner of the AJ-Ruiz , rematch , and a chance at the belts ,, Got a feeling He'll use the everyone is busy excuse , fight a couple more unknowns and disapear with a lot of money back to Lancashire , booze , and steak and kidney pudding and chips .

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2019, 18:33 What doesn't make sense though is that Klitschko insisted on a rematch clause for Fury to get a shot then Fury got stripped. The two practices are contradictory and there's no place for both

keirw wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 01:41 Yeah I remember at the time thinking that the IBF were being very harsh, even by their standards.
Had Fury had a bigger promoter at the time he may have held on to all his belts. Big Mick is a good character, but relatively small time and it showed in this scenario.

Not that it mattered in hindsight.

keirw wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 01:41 Yeah I remember at the time thinking that the IBF were being very harsh, even by their standards.
Had Fury had a bigger promoter at the time he may have held on to all his belts. Big Mick is a good character, but relatively small time and it showed in this scenario.

Not that it mattered in hindsight.

coneye wrote: ↑13 Jun 2019, 18:52 Wilder is set to fight Ortiz , AJ has the rematch , don't hear Fury demanding or asking for the winner of the AJ-Ruiz , rematch , and a chance at the belts ,, Got a feeling He'll use the everyone is busy excuse , fight a couple more unknowns and disapear with a lot of money back to Lancashire , booze , and steak and kidney pudding and chips .

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑15 Jun 2019, 02:50 The ibf would strip anyone. Their rankings are poo, but they enforce their rules without bias.