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Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:20
by Ilya Muromets
ewenhay wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 11:13 It was only a week ago that Ruiz proved that a better skilled small guy can topple a giant.

A week later you want the weights reclassified?

Fury beat a guy that shouldn't have been in the ring with him. No need to overreact and change all the weight divisions.

What are you talking about? Ruiz was the bigger of the two outweighing Joshua by almost twenty pounds.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:22
by ewenhay
Ilya Muromets wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 11:20 What are you talking about? Ruiz was the bigger of the two outweighing Joshua by almost twenty pounds.
Yeah because he's fat. He's the smaller guy by miles in all the classic measurables. Height, frame, reach you name it.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:26
by Ilya Muromets
ewenhay wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 11:22 Yeah because he's fat. He's the smaller guy by miles in all the classic measurables. Height, frame, reach you name it.


It goes by weight. That's how the classifications work, by weight. Ruiz isn't really "fat". He has fat on him all right but obviously a lot of muscle underneath and when he punches he has all his weight behind his punches.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:28
by ewenhay
Ilya Muromets wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 11:26 It goes by weight. That's how the classifications work, by weight. Ruiz isn't really "fat". He has fat on him all right but obviously a lot of muscle underneath and when he punches he has all his weight behind his punches.
Ruiz and Schwartz are probably around the same size I reckon.

But yes Ruiz is heavier

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:30
by Ilya Muromets
Ilya Muromets wrote: 16 Jun 2019, 11:26 It goes by weight. That's how the classifications work, by weight. Ruiz isn't really "fat". He has fat on him all right but obviously a lot of muscle underneath and when he punches he has all his weight behind his punches.
Plus his fat gives him cushioning from punches. I learned that when I was a little kid and was punching an annoying fat kid who lived nearby and he just laughed at me!

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 12:16
by Deleted_Scenes
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 05:25
by morm
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 09:06
by Jonny22Kupfer
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 16:27
by dagilechia
The voting is over.

🇬🇧 Tyson Fury stays at #1, 🇩🇪 Tom Schwarz remains unranked.

Current ranking:

1. 🇬🇧 Tyson Fury - 28(20) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. 🇺🇸 Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - next fight: 28.09.2019 vs 🇨🇺 Luiz Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

3. 🇲🇽 Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. 🇬🇧 Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. 🇬🇧 Dillian Whyte - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 20.07.2019 vs 🇨🇴 Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 0 0 - (#11)

6. 🇷🇺 Alexander Povetkin - 34(24) 2(1) 0 - next fight: 12.07.2019 vs 🇺🇸 Scott Alexander - 14(8) 3(0) 2 - (unranked, inactive)

7. 🇨🇺 Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 28.09.2019 vs 🇺🇸 Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - (#2)

8. 🇧🇬 Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. 🇳🇿 Joseph Parker - 25(19) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 29.06.2019 vs 🇦🇺 Alex Leapai - 32(26) 7(3) 4 - (unranked, BoxRec's #57)

10. 🇵🇱 Adam Kownacki - 19(15) 0 0 - next fight: 03.08.2019 vs 🇺🇸 Chris Arreola - 38(33) 5(3) 1 - (unranked, BoxRec's #40)

11. 🇨🇴 Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 0 0 - next fight: 20.07.2019 vs 🇬🇧 Dillian Whyte - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - (#5)

12. 🇭🇷 Filip Hrgović - 8(6) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. 🇬🇧 Dereck Chisora - 30(21) 9(3) 0 - next fight: 20.07.2019 vs 🇵🇱 Artur Szpilka - 22(15) 3(3) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #24)

14. 🇩🇪 Agit Kabayel - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. 🇺🇸 Dominic Breazeale - 20(18) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

Worth of mention fights and fighters:
🇵🇱 Łukasz Różański - 10(9) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #78) vs 🇵🇱 Izuagbe Ugonoh - 18(15) 1(1) 0 - (inactive) - 06.07.2019
🇺🇸 Bryant Jennings - 24(14) 3(2) 0 - (BoxRec's #26) vs 🇬🇧 Joe Joyce - 9(9) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #28) - 13.07.2019
🇬🇧 Nathan Gorman - 16(11) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #43) vs 🇬🇧 Daniel Dubois - 11(10) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #54) - 13.07.2019
🇫🇮 Robert Helenius - 28(17) 2(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #23) vs 🇺🇸 Gerald Washington - 19(12) 3(3) 1 - (BoxRec's #35) - 13.07.2019
🇩🇪 Alexander Dimitrenko - 41(26) 5(4) 0 - (BoxRec's #36) vs 🇫🇷 Tony Yoka - 5(4) 0 0 - (inactive) - 13.07.2019
🇹🇷 Ali Eren Demirezen - 11(10) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #33) vs 🇳🇬 Efe Ajagba - 10(9) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #50) - 20.07.2019
🇬🇧 David Allen - 17(14) 4(2) 2 - (BoxRec's #20) vs 🇬🇧 David Price - 24(19) 6(6) 0 - (BoxRec's #48) - 20.07.2019
🇷🇺 Murat Gassiev - 26(19) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #3 at CW) vs 🇺🇸 Joey Dawejko - 19(11) 7(1) 4 - (BoxRec's #56) - 27.07.2019
🇺🇸 Michael Hunter - 17(12) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #38) vs TBA
🇺🇸 Jarrell Miller - 23(20) 0 1 - (BoxRec's #7) vs TBA
🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk - 16(12) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #1 at CW) vs TBA

Important note: not all of those fights will deserve the voting topic. This is just a list of interesting HW fights, just to not to miss them.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 16:32
by oogiebe
Thanks for all the hard work!

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 16:36
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: 23 Jun 2019, 16:32 Thanks for all the hard work!
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz

Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 16:52
by greg
oogiebe wrote: 23 Jun 2019, 16:32 Thanks for all the hard work!
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