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Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:37
by Onetimeonly
apollo creed wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 12:51 "a better 160lbs fighter", NOT a better 154-160lbs fighter. :TU:
:zzz:

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:41
by Onetimeonly
jamamb wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 12:28 hard to say, theyve both been fighting lacklustre opponents. andrade seems more fluid and better defensively to me, but charlo more powerful and more willing to step on the gas
No chance in hell andrade beats charlo 12-0

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:43
by jamamb
Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:41 No chance in hell andrade beats charlo 12-0
i agree, to me its a 50-50 ish type of match up. they both do certain things better then the other

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:45
by boxing_rocks
dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 he would make Charlo look hopeless
No, Charlo is no Sulecki. He would get inside and hurt Andrade.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:47
by boxing_rocks
Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:06 I'm not gonna defend Andrade against Sulecki as it was a terrible fight to watch.

That said though, I think Sulecki is a better all around fighter than lemieux. He doesn't possess the lights out power that David does, but if you look at his Sulecki's fight with Jacobs, he actually pushed Jacobs more than he did Andrade, and Jacobs is a proven top level fighter.
Exactly, Sulecki doesn't have lights out power, and Andrade was still not attacking him. BJS has balls, while Andrade doesn't.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:48
by apollo creed
Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 Haha.

Me and Datsue haven't always seen eye to eye over the years, but he's a smart guy and that's a pretty spot on assessment.
Yeah he nailed it pretty damn well.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:49
by Nondescript
boxing_rocks wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:47 Exactly, Sulecki doesn't have lights out power, and Andrade was still not attacking him. BJS has balls, while Andrade doesn't.
Well I see what you're saying there. I just think that Lemieux is such a terrible boxer though, that quite often his foot work isn't good enough to get him in position to land the huge shots.

Plus he has like t-rex arms.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:49
by Onetimeonly
jamamb wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:43 i agree, to me its a 50-50 ish type of match up. they both do certain things better then the other
Same, I could see a Charlo kd being the difference. Da really loops that left wide.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:50
by Nondescript
Is Korobov really better than Andrade though?!

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:51
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 he would make Charlo look hopeless
:lol:

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:51
by apollo creed
dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 he would make Charlo look hopeless
I think Andrade would be a stylistically nightmare for Charlo. Ugly match up style.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 13:56
by jamamb
is jack culcay really better then charlo?

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 14:00
by Onetimeonly
Is vanes martirosyan a bigger puncher than charlo? Talk about an overreaction. Last week sulecki was better than andrade and now charlo couldn't land a punch? I got news for ya, charlo would knock sulecki out cold.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 14:39
by dagilechia
apollo creed wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:51 I think Andrade would be a stylistically nightmare for Charlo. Ugly match up style.
yeah same as he was a stylistical nightmare for Sulęcki. Andrade would win by wide decision after a snoozefest. it would look similar to all 3 of his MW bouts.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 14:40
by dagilechia
Sulęcki would be competetive against Charlo, just like vs Jacobs. Andrade's style was a nightmare for Maciej, Charlo's style wouldn't though.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 14:41
by dagilechia
Andrade would be a very difficult opponent for Golovkin while i think that Canelo should defeat him much more easily. styles make fights.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 14:47
by boxing_rocks
Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:50 Is Korobov really better than Andrade though?!
He definitely is, which is why Andrade ducked him.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 14:48
by Nondescript
boxing_rocks wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:47 He definitely is, which is why Andrade ducked him.
Is Korobov better than BJS do you think?

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 14:59
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:40 Sulęcki would be competetive against Charlo, just like vs Jacobs. Andrade's style was a nightmare for Maciej, Charlo's style wouldn't though.
You thought sulecki should be favored over andrade a few days ago. He has nothing to offer charlo either. Lol, pump the sulecki brakes. He's bang average.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 15:03
by boxing_rocks
Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:48 Is Korobov better than BJS do you think?
Not sure. Korobov is getting old.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 15:11
by dagilechia
Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:59 You thought sulecki should be favored over andrade a few days ago. He has nothing to offer charlo either. Lol, pump the sulecki brakes. He's bang average.
yeah and i was wrong. I have underestimated Andrade, probably because he fought so mediocre opposition recently. Andrade beats Charlo with ease, Charlo-Sulęcki would be close. Also, I'd favour Andrade over Jacobs.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 15:13
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 15:03 Not sure. Korobov is getting old.
Saunders is a cheater though, he arguably lost to Akavov, he looked very mediocre vs Monroe too, then he suddenly outclassed Lemieux and got caught before Andrade fight. i think that he's not the same without peds.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 15:14
by jamamb
charlo would bomb out sulecki

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 15:20
by dagilechia
maybe, Jacobs didn't though so i wouldn't be so sure.

Re: Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 15:20
by boxing_rocks
dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 15:13 Saunders is a cheater though, he arguably lost to Akavov, he looked very mediocre vs Monroe too, then he suddenly outclassed Lemieux and got caught before Andrade fight. i think that he's not the same without peds.
As many fighters, Saunders severely lacks motivation when he fights weak opposition. That is why he looked bad in some of his fights.

I think that almost all fighters on top level use some kinds of PEDs. BJS was just careless, because what he used was allowed by Britich boxing authorities.