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Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 22:46
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 22:44
lazboy wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 19:55 I will say this about Joyce, to be nice. He’s come very far with heart, toughness and obviously genetics such as natural power and size. He’s also a hard worker. He however does not look ‘at home’ in the ring.

He takes a punch well too. He's strong - but he looks like he's fighting underwater! I don't recall ever seeing a fighter who threw punches in slow motion like that.
I still can't believe the success he has with his slo-motion movement. Somehow he gets it done on this level, but that's about all he'll be good for. Oh look!!! One of his second round punches just landed!!!

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 22:48
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 22:46
Ilya Muromets wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 22:44


He takes a punch well too. He's strong - but he looks like he's fighting underwater! I don't recall ever seeing a fighter who threw punches in slow motion like that.
I still can't believe the success he has with his slo-motion movement. Somehow he gets it done on this level, but that's about all he'll be good for. Oh look!!! One of his second round punches just landed!!!

Ha ha!

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 23:35
by Onetimeonly
lazboy wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 19:55 I will say this about Joyce, to be nice. He’s come very far with heart, toughness and obviously genetics such as natural power and size. He’s also a hard worker. He however does not look ‘at home’ in the ring.
He doesn't have big power, but he's accurate for as slow as he is. Spot on with the rest.

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 23:41
by sturm vogel
lazboy wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 21:24
sturm vogel wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 21:12

Is this an attempt at comedy? Won't criticize your poor English just poor observation. He just threw hundreds of punches for 12 rounds and didn't dent an aluminum can.
There’s a difference between power and delivery you sod. Just like there’s a different between punching a punching bag and a moving person. Joyce has power, natural power.

Please also criticise my English skills.
Not only are you lazy, but maybe slow? Power is hitting hard you English twit. If a fighter isn't hitting hard then we conclude he doesn't have power. Holy fack! As to your English skills, your English so that explains the efficiency.

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 23:42
by sturm vogel
Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 23:35
lazboy wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 19:55 I will say this about Joyce, to be nice. He’s come very far with heart, toughness and obviously genetics such as natural power and size. He’s also a hard worker. He however does not look ‘at home’ in the ring.
He doesn't have big power, but he's accurate for as slow as he is. Spot on with the rest.
Joyce is very accurate; accurate at hitting gloves.

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 23:47
by Onetimeonly
sturm vogel wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 23:42
Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 23:35

He doesn't have big power, but he's accurate for as slow as he is. Spot on with the rest.
Joyce is very accurate; accurate at hitting gloves.
He's just incredibly slow, his aim is good.

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 00:17
by lazboy
sturm vogel wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 23:41
lazboy wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 21:24

There’s a difference between power and delivery you sod. Just like there’s a different between punching a punching bag and a moving person. Joyce has power, natural power.

Please also criticise my English skills.
As to your English skills, your English so that explains the efficiency.
So you are complimenting me now or did you get efficiency and deficiency confused?

Perhaps learn definitional understandings of words before using them and before criticising someone about English language skills. Also, your boxing understanding needs improvement.

Many things to work on, you’ll have a busy year, no time for boxrec. Bye :wave:

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 00:48
by sturm vogel
lazboy wrote: 14 Jul 2019, 00:17
sturm vogel wrote: 13 Jul 2019, 23:41

As to your English skills, your English so that explains the efficiency.
So you are complimenting me now or did you get efficiency and deficiency confused?

Perhaps learn definitional understandings of words before using them and before criticising someone about English language skills. Also, your boxing understanding needs improvement.

Many things to work on, you’ll have a busy year, no time for boxrec. Bye :wave:
Why don't you go wash your hands? Your mind is well scrubbed enough.

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 00:59
by SportsRatings
Joe Joyce is the anti-Andy Ruiz. Just looking at him you would never guess he had molasses-level hand speed.

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 03:43
by DrDuke
Dubois will crush Joyce. Joyce is very hittable. For the moment Joyce was only bulling the lesser opposition. Dubois is a no less aggressive powerhouse, but furthermore he is a better boxer. Dubois will catch Joyce pretty early, in a Gorman bout fashion.

Re: Dubois > Joyce

Posted: 15 Jul 2019, 02:43
by Best Coast
DrDuke wrote: 14 Jul 2019, 03:43 Dubois will crush Joyce. Joyce is very hittable. For the moment Joyce was only bulling the lesser opposition. Dubois is a no less aggressive powerhouse, but furthermore he is a better boxer. Dubois will catch Joyce pretty early, in a Gorman bout fashion.
While I'm not convinced that Dubois is superior to Joyce right now I am convinced that because Daniel is so much younger than Joe he will eventually be far better and much more likely to be the future of the HW division.

DDD is more than a decade younger than Joyce so he can take the long, slow road to a HW title shot, maybe 4-6 bouts over a 2-year span. But Joe will be 34 in 2 months, so he needs to take the fast track in getting a world title shot, and he is more likely to get beaten by a top 10 HW like Whyte, Parker or Pulev in the next year or so.