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Coco wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 14:51

Gnome wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 14:48 If hypothetically my employers paid me to train full time instead of working (and it didn't count as leave), I'd do it for £5k.

To change the question slightly: imagine if Dubois' next opponent got injured just before the fight, and they ask you that the night before? Then we're talking more like £15k.

D worry about getting hurt permanent against a big hitting heavy

I figure he'd take me out quickly enough. All of his opponents would be taking more licks than I would. To be honest, I think fighting someone like Lomachenko would be worse - you would probably take a long, sustained beating before going down. One massive punch would probably do less damage.

It seems a lot of the posters are heavyweights!

25 grand + medical bills.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:50 25 grand + medical bills.

Throw in long term care for me!

When I was younger I'd of done it cheap.
Like Tex Cobb saying he'd of fought Cooney for 25 cents and a loose woman.

Now since I'm older and in poor health a million and a tight woman

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:51

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:50 25 grand + medical bills.

Throw in long term care for me!

The fact that I can't take a dive is the problem. Even at my advanced age I'm sure I still have a world class chin. Lol

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:55

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:51

Throw in long term care for me!

The fact that I can't take a dive is the problem. Even at my advanced age I'm sure I still have a world class chin. Lol

Sometimes our competitive nature can be a detriment. Stay down Saad!

Coco wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:23 It seems a lot of the posters are heavyweights!

We’ll probably all be super-middles after the 12 weeks of training though

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:56

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:55

The fact that I can't take a dive is the problem. Even at my advanced age I'm sure I still have a world class chin. Lol

Sometimes our competitive nature can be a detriment. Stay down Saad!

I'm sure the ref will pull me out before I'm down and if not exhaustion. Isn't a dive!

I’d like to think I’d hold out for £25k but if the money was laid out in front of you I’d guess I’d likely take £15k.

I had a very limited number of amateur fights and got a proper whipping off a Romanian lad working up here - that was over 4 x 2’s and I can’t imagine being that badly outclassed and possibly imagine going any longer - which makes it a dead cert I’d be getting stopped early doors irrespective of my own pride!

I’d probably do it in a gym behind closed doors for very little but in front of a decent crowd I’d want to be well paid for being clowned!

What would people’s tactics be? Try to tuck up like a journeyman? Swing for the fences? Try to stay elusive, Mayweather-style?

Personally I like to think I’d go in cocky as fvck, taunting and dancing, doing the Ali-shuffle constantly - if nothing else, I’d probably get the opponent so angry that they’d spark me immediately so I’d hopefully avoid a prolonged beating

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 18:26 What would people’s tactics be? Try to tuck up like a journeyman? Swing for the fences? Try to stay elusive, Mayweather-style?

Personally I like to think I’d go in cocky as fvck, taunting and dancing, doing the Ali-shuffle constantly - if nothing else, I’d probably get the opponent so angry that they’d spark me immediately so I’d hopefully avoid a prolonged beating

Realizing I'd be in over my head, I go out guns blazing!

I had 4 amateur fights and sparred pros. That's not going to help me here but I was always a good counter puncher so that's my wing and a prayer

I’d want to walk away with £200k, people willing to do this for £5k need their heads checking

Go on then, give us a fiver and it’s on. It must be over ten years since I laced them up. It’s about time I got back into it!

Surely a British title fight would be on telly. Even IFL youtube. Lol

£50k should do it.

25G's and id better than sone of the fighters Eddie Hearn and Mr w@rren bring over for commonwealth title fights.

Coco wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:23 It seems a lot of the posters are heavyweights!

Loads of fatties and manlets about who will weigh in as heavyweights day to day and probably believe they are in decent shape. Most are probably three or more stone over what they'd fight at for real, they just don't know it.

JimStone wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 03:07

Coco wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:23 It seems a lot of the posters are heavyweights!

Loads of fatties and manlets about who will weigh in as heavyweights day to day and probably believe they are in decent shape. Most are probably three or more stone over what they'd fight at for real, they just don't know it.

I certainly know it and that’s why for me it’s a nuts idea, in my mid 20’s I’d be middleweight when I was really fit, light middle and now I’d be fighting Daniel Dubois, fcuk that for a game of soldiers!

Right, I'm a heavyweight so I'm taking on Daniel Dubois.

I'm in good shape but I'm 45 so I'm not a young kid anymore. I'd want a full time 12 week camp, including a decent coach, nutritionist and my own chef.
I'd want to come in to the ring second and have David Diamante as the announcer (milpool...milpool). I'm not into rap music but I'd like some rapper rapping me in and I'd act like a right smug pudendum during the ringwalk.

I'd need twelve weeks off work so I'd want to be compensated for that, I'd want full medical insurance and then I'd want £50k after tax and expenses.
I'd get absolutely smashed but I'd go out on my shield windmilling like fornicate!

It's basically the price to get pasted on live TV and risk serious injury.
The risk SHOULD be fairly small. You'd go out swinging - anything else would be madness - so, with a bit of luck you'd get taken out clean, from a relatively light punch you hadn't seen coming and within less than a minute.
Of course you might disastrously last TWO minutes - yikes !
Then you're getting a brutal beating-up type KO. This would almost guarantee a 'damaging but survivable injury - multi-broken face bones, ribs and whatnot, but also a small, but significant, chance of lasting brain damage or death.

I should be able to make LHW comfortably with 12 weeks and Buatsi is probably the Brit Champ I'd choose to get the best chance of being category 1 - he can take out pros with his first shot ! Much more dangerous imo to face the lesser punchers and at the lower weights. Andrew Selby for instance. He'd be a slow torturous death in Dexter's Kill Room, to Buatsi's guillotine.

The answer has to be "not at any price" or, "everything I ever wanted". Then you have to choose an arbitrary minimum and stick to it - otherwise you'd get bargained down and down and start compromising...

So.., for me, the tipping point where, "yeah I'll do it" is £5m and not a penny less, plus Peace on Earth and solving The Climate Crisis - That's my price to face Buatsi. I suppose I could get less on the money front if I got the 2nd two and saved humanity, but not by much - I'm not Jesus.

I think it just illustrates why we admire boxers so much - to think guys fight the likes of Buatsi for..what ? £5k ? Would Carlos Moreno have even got that ? or £2.5k plus flights ? Crazy people

I think I would be CW if I was really really fit. Now I am fat so Dubois it is...

My limited experience in Kickboxing would not help me much against beast like him. I guess my best bet would be to try to cover up take few shots and crumble. I think with my limited experience and not being used to be hit with horse kick powered shots I would genuinely fold really fast. No acting needed for that flop.

There is still chance that I would be caught clean with something real nasty that I could not ride in any way. So the chance to get badly hurt would be very real one.

Because of the risk I would not take the fight cheaply. Would need to be financially secured by the bout. I think 1 million would do it.

So yes there is price for everything and seems like mine would be that one million

I'd be in ring with Dubois so I'd want 100k minimum, protect the head and just get my ribs barbecued

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 03:22

JimStone wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 03:07

Loads of fatties and manlets about who will weigh in as heavyweights day to day and probably believe they are in decent shape. Most are probably three or more stone over what they'd fight at for real, they just don't know it.

I certainly know it and that’s why for me it’s a nuts idea, in my mid 20’s I’d be middleweight when I was really fit, light middle and now I’d be fighting Daniel Dubois, fcuk that for a game of soldiers!

That’s the thing - the cruiser limit really isn’t that ‘heavy’ in this day and age. Without a regular training regime, I reckon pretty much everyone who is 6’ and over will be above it, and therefore put into heavyweight territory.

So really I guess you need to consider which weight division you’d be in after the 12 weeks of training. No point draining like a beast and then still having to face Dubois

Depending on how much money you have, if you you are confident of getting away with a bust nose, a concussion and a bust rib, 5-10k is a good payday.
Of course you would want a lot more if you feel you are risking permanent damage.
For me after seeing some comments calling British level fighters sh#t after being exposed at a higher level, it's refreshing to see comments which demonstrate how dangerous British level fighters are in real life!
Also the question I put was that it was a non televised fight, you only have to worry about getting hurt, not the embarrassment!