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Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 11:27
by handsofstone
Ricky wrote: 25 Jul 2019, 19:32
jameswilson wrote: 25 Jul 2019, 17:27 One I'd encourage everyone to watch. I thought this was an excellent documentary.



one of best pieces of TV i ever seen. Been trying to get a hold of HBOs Tapia documentary.
Tapia is amazing mate, it's on YouTube

Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 14:38
by chinarich
Boxing Prospect wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 12:52 Zab Judah was left with a brain bleed after fighting Cletus Seldin...Seldin had PREVIOUSLY had a... Bad test
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/i ... stosterone
Judah is trying to get access to Seldin’s pre-fight test results, though surely a positive would have come up by now?

Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 15:19
by Boxing Prospect
chinarich wrote: 27 Jul 2019, 14:38
Boxing Prospect wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 12:52 Zab Judah was left with a brain bleed after fighting Cletus Seldin...Seldin had PREVIOUSLY had a... Bad test
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/i ... stosterone
Judah is trying to get access to Seldin’s pre-fight test results, though surely a positive would have come up by now?
Seldin had failed previous tests, and there is a very strong argument that having things in your system could provide long term advantages, not just an advantage for that event/fight. So even if clean for the Judah fighter he's certainly someone with a fail.

Was as close as I could find to answering the original question

Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 18:41
by jameswilson
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 12:06
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Jul 2019, 11:27 But not everyone is tested. Some say undercard fighters are not always tested.
When was the last time where a boxer in a main event died?

Obviously we had Adonis who was badly injured.
Boxing testing is laughable compared to the UFC. Though it has improved from nonexistent.
UFC for long periods did no testing and not that long ago authorised TRT as long as it was disclosed, That’s a sport where it’s clear they aren’t trying to catch anyone. Brock Lesnar, Overeem, Vitor, Sonnen are just a few names who have always been on gear.

Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 18:51
by Onetimeonly
jameswilson wrote: 27 Jul 2019, 18:41
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 12:06

Boxing testing is laughable compared to the UFC. Though it has improved from nonexistent.
UFC for long periods did no testing and not that long ago authorised TRT as long as it was disclosed, That’s a sport where it’s clear they aren’t trying to catch anyone. Brock Lesnar, Overeem, Vitor, Sonnen are just a few names who have always been on gear.
Those guys were all busted. Jones, tj, etc..They pop stars. It wasn't always like that, has been for a few years now.

Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 19:03
by jameswilson
Onetimeonly wrote: 27 Jul 2019, 18:51
jameswilson wrote: 27 Jul 2019, 18:41

UFC for long periods did no testing and not that long ago authorised TRT as long as it was disclosed, That’s a sport where it’s clear they aren’t trying to catch anyone. Brock Lesnar, Overeem, Vitor, Sonnen are just a few names who have always been on gear.
Those guys were all busted. Jones, tj, etc..They pop stars. It wasn't always like that, has been for a few years now.
There are tons of guys and women who are blatantly on gear who haven’t been popped.

Jones and Lesnar are on gear for all his fights. You’re an idiot if you think otherwise (not saying that you think otherwise) and yet he keeps getting fights with the UFC.

How many times has Jones been popped? I believe twice? How long were his bans each time?

Yeah superb drug testing a punishment within ufc isn’t it.

Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 19:52
by Boxing Prospect
Jones pops every time now and they explain it as pulsing...

Re: anyone ever been killed/permanantly injured by ped opponent?

Posted: 28 Jul 2019, 01:03
by Onetimeonly
jameswilson wrote: 27 Jul 2019, 19:03
Onetimeonly wrote: 27 Jul 2019, 18:51

Those guys were all busted. Jones, tj, etc..They pop stars. It wasn't always like that, has been for a few years now.
There are tons of guys and women who are blatantly on gear who haven’t been popped.

Jones and Lesnar are on gear for all his fights. You’re an idiot if you think otherwise (not saying that you think otherwise) and yet he keeps getting fights with the UFC.

How many times has Jones been popped? I believe twice? How long were his bans each time?

Yeah superb drug testing a punishment within ufc isn’t it.
:lol: