Peter Quillin vs. Alfredo Angulo - September 21, 2019

Who wins?

Poll ended at 22 Sep 2019, 06:40

Quillin - Decision
5
29%
Quillin - T/KO
8
47%
DRAW
2
12%
Angulo - T/KO
1
6%
Angulo - Decision
1
6%
 
Total votes: 17

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Re: Peter Quillin vs. Alfredo Angulo - September 21, 2019

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He doesn't exactly have any marquee wins, but he's just got more of that fast twitch kinda thing going on where he's a cut above Angulo.

Angulo for instance I don't imagine would've managed a draw vs Andy Lee. He would've lost. Probably by KO.
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Yeah, I never saw that in him. More so than Angulo obviously but prone to being lazy and outworked. Best I ever saw out if the two was Lara.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 27 Aug 2019, 15:46 Yeah, I never saw that in him. More so than Angulo obviously but prone to being lazy and outworked. Best I ever saw out if the two was Lara.
Which is probably more of a comment on Lara than it is on Angulo.
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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 10:56
Onetimeonly wrote: 27 Aug 2019, 15:46 Yeah, I never saw that in him. More so than Angulo obviously but prone to being lazy and outworked. Best I ever saw out if the two was Lara.
Which is probably more of a comment on Lara than it is on Angulo.
Not from me, I think Lara would box circles around quillin at their best.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs. Alfredo Angulo - September 21, 2019

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Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 13:32
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 10:56

Which is probably more of a comment on Lara than it is on Angulo.
Not from me, I think Lara would box circles around quillin at their best.
He wouldn't stop him though. He stopped Angulo. Seemed like a particularly bad night for Lara combined with the best performance Angulo ever managed.

All this is irrelevant anyway really.

Quillin is gonna kick Angulo's ass on September 21st. You can take that to the bank.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs. Alfredo Angulo - September 21, 2019

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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 20:09
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 13:32
Not from me, I think Lara would box circles around quillin at their best.
He wouldn't stop him though. He stopped Angulo. Seemed like a particularly bad night for Lara combined with the best performance Angulo ever managed.

All this is irrelevant anyway really.

Quillin is gonna kick Angulo's ass on September 21st. You can take that to the bank.
I never said he wouldn't.
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Alright then
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Good to see you back to normal.
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I'm rarely anything but Normal

The night of Pac/Thurman I was pretty out there, but other than that I'm pretty steady these days :lol:
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Almost always, this thread is the most bizarre interaction I've ever had with you.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 22:28 Almost always, this thread is the most bizarre interaction I've ever had with you.
That can't be true. I've said WAY crazier things than anything I've said in this thread :lol:
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Re: Peter Quillin vs. Alfredo Angulo - September 21, 2019

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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 22:39
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 22:28 Almost always, this thread is the most bizarre interaction I've ever had with you.
That can't be true. I've said WAY crazier things than anything I've said in this thread :lol:
I didn't say you said anything crazy, you just kept responding as if you didn't read what I said. Anyway, I'm waaay over talking about a fight I'm very likely not to watch.
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Fight week
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Fight week. :bag:
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This is one of the trashiest PBC cards in recent memory, and that's saying something. Angulo is 9 years and 2 weight classes removed from his last decent win.
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Undercard Information

Unbeaten prospects will enter the ring as lightweight Michel Rivera competes in an eight-round bout against Jose Luis Gallegos[/b], middleweight Jonathan Esquivel steps in for an eight-round fight against Justin Steave and middleweight Petr Khamukov duels Randy Fuentes in a four or six round showdown on Saturday, September 21 as part of FS2 PBC Fight Night and on FOX Deportes beginning at 8:30 p.m. ET/5:30 p.m. PT from Rabobank Arena in Bakersfield, California.

Jeison Rosario was originally scheduled to face Bakhram Murtazaliev in Prelims action, but was forced to withdraw due to a shoulder injury.

The event is headlined by former world champion Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillin dueling hard-hitting Alfredo Angulo in a 12-round super middleweight showdown in the main event of FS1 PBC Fight Night and on FOX Deportes beginning at 10:30 p.m. ET/7:30 p.m. PT.

Tickets for the event, which is promoted by TGB Promotions, are on sale now and can be purchased at www.rabobankarena.com and AXS.com.

Undercard attractions are highlighted by undefeated bantamweight Antonio Russell (15-0, 11 KOs) battling former title challenger David Carmona (21-6-5, 9 KOs) in a 10-round bout and 2016 U.S. Olympian Gary Antuanne Russell (10-0, 10 KOs) in an eight round super lightweight attraction against Mexico's Mario Alberto Perez Navarro (5-4-2, 2 KOs). Plus, unbeaten lightweight Jerry Perez (11-0, 8 KOs) takes on Colombia's Marlon Olea (14-5, 12 KOs) in an eight-round fight, Mexican prospect Francisco Ochoa (15-0, 9 KOs) faces Clay Burns (8-5-2, 4 KOs) in an eight-round super featherweight tussle and Oklahoma City's Aaron Morales (7-0, 3 KOs) duels Los Angeles-native Sergio Quiroz (6-2, 1 KO) for an eight-round bantamweight match.

Additional fights include unbeaten Viktor Slavinskyi in an eight round super featherweight attraction against Phoenix's Jesus Aguinaga, undefeated bantamweight Robert Rodriguez battling Mexico's Hugo Rodriguez in a six-round fight. Rounding out the fights are bouts featuring unbeaten bantamweight Jose Balderas stepping into the ring for a six-round bantamweight battle against Houston's Josue Morales and a six-round super bantamweight showdown featuring Los Angeles-native Daniel Guzman taking on Mexico's Roberto Pucheta.

The 21-year-old Rivera (16-0, 10 KOs) turned pro in 2016 and is unbeaten, including a 10-round decision victory over then undefeated Marco Acevedo in 2017. Fighting out of his native Dominican Republic, Rivera made his U.S. debut in June with a victory over previously unbeaten Rene Tellez Giron. He will be opposed by the 24-year-old Gallegos (16-7, 12 KOs) who fights out of Chicago

Representing Anaheim, California, Esquivel (11-0, 10 KOs) most recently delivered a first round knockout over Gregory Clark in July and has knocked out his last three opponents. A pro since 2017, the 24-year-old will take on the 33-year-old Steave (10-2, 4 KOs) who fights out of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and has won four of his last five fights entering September 21.

A 2016 Russian Olympian, Khamukov (3-0) turned pro in 2018 and has picked up three victories, including most recently defeating Nodar Tskhovrebadze in February. The 28-year-old will be opposed by the 31-year-old Fuentes (9-8-1, 2 KOs), who fights out of McAllen, Texas and is coming off a decision victory in July.

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Peter Quillin still competing at 168, but fighting for something different

In August 2014, "Kid Chocolate" Peter Quillin was the WBO middleweight titlist and a rising star in the world of boxing. Roc Nation Sports, then a boxing promotional outfit, surprisingly won the purse bid for Quillin's mandatory title defense against Matt Korobov with what seemed to be an exorbitant figure of more than $1.9 million.

Quillin, as the defending champion, would receive more than $1.4 million for the bout. He turned it down.

"I thought [the Roc Nation offer] was the opportunity to sell my soul," Quillin says of his dilemma at the time. "So I don't regret making a decision that many people aren't in a position to say no to."

Quillin prioritized his family and life outside of the ring. He bypassed that opportunity and the quick payday by vacating his title and leaving Korobov to face Andy Lee for the WBO belt. Not only would it have been a financial windfall, but it left Quillin titleless for the first time since 2012.

That particular decision didn't negatively impact his career immediately. In April 2015, Quillin still landed fights against Lee (which turned out to be a disputed split draw), and then, after stopping Michael Zerafa in five rounds, he faced Daniel Jacobs for a version of the WBA middleweight title. The Brooklyn showdown ended up being a blowout as Quillin was stopped in controversial fashion in the first round by referee Harvey Dock.

"It just taught me a lot about myself," Quillin says about his loss against Jacobs. "In boxing you see all these kinda things happen all the time, woulda been, coulda been, shoulda been. So I don't dwell on those things because that defeat that night, in a lot of ways I won, certain things about my morality, my relationship with God."

Eric Brown, who trained Quillin for the Jacobs' fight, believes Quillin was having a tough time ahead of the bout.

"I just think it was a tough time for Kid, he was going through [some] changes as far as his family, coming to terms with his spirituality, a new child, everything," Brown says.

That loss may have sent him on a spiritual path, but also put a screeching halt to his career.

So what happened?

Quillin says life.

"I had a lot of personal family issues. ... I got married, I had kids with the wife. I had to see what happens in the boxing game,'' he says. "I was taking time off to find out who I should be working with."

The respite led Quillin to further embrace religion and gain an understanding for how his career and beliefs intersected.

"I read the Bible every day, to the point where I'm considering, after I retire from the sport of boxing, going back to college and get a degree in theology and business," he says.

Quillin's trainer for the past two fights, Aureliano Sosa, believes Quillin has a reinvigorated focus and determination to not only fight, but to help others in the sport and support his family.

"Definitely. Since he came with me, he seems more motivated, I guess, because he's closer to his family [training in Brooklyn]," Sosa says. "Also in the gym there's some young guys, hungry fighters and he gets into it."

Sosa, who works with Quillin on a daily basis at the NYC Cops and Kids Boxing Gym in Brooklyn, says that despite being 36 years old, Quillin is young in spirit.

"The thing with Kid is he's a veteran, but he has a young mind," Sosa says. "And when you have a young mind, you learn what you're being taught much faster than some of the older ones that take forever."

Sosa says he has a great time training Quillin, lauding him for his work ethic and how humorous and light he makes things in the gym.

"I don't mind spending an extra hour, hour-and-a-half, two hours to get the work done with him because he is a fun person to work with," he says.

"When people see him for this fight, they're going to see a brand new Peter Quilln. A Peter Quillin that is going to use his jab way more. He's going to put the jab in different locations, [be] smarter with the feet, smarter in moving the shoulders. He's definitely going to look like a younger 'Kid Chocolate.'"

Sooner or later Quillin (34-1-1, 23 KOs) will be fighting for a 168 pounds title, but that's not necessarily what he's aiming for in the twilight of his career.

"My remaining goal is to make sure I came in the game with my dignity and leave with my gratitude,"
he says. "I just want to leave with all those things. I didn't sell my soul, there was no way they could buy me, I stayed the same from the beginning and I'm going to stay the same till the end.

"[My son Joaquin is] 5 years old now, and I look at him and I'm very blessed that I've never put money before him. Look, I'm OK, I'm still good. We own our house, everything is lovely."
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Re: Peter Quillin vs. Alfredo Angulo - September 21, 2019

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Angulo is a CORPSE. Will get crushed here.
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I’m not entirely sure about the sporting justification for a bout between Quillin and Angulo. :o
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People are "down" on Quillin because he got sparked out by Daniel Jacobs, one of the best fighters in boxing. It's laughable. Quillin has never had any trouble with corpses like Angulo who was shot to hell 4-5 yrs ago.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs. Alfredo Angulo - September 21, 2019

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Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 17:43 I’m not entirely sure about the sporting justification for a bout between Quillin and Angulo. :o
They're both has beens trying to be relevant again. That's the sporting justification.
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gilgamesh wrote: 20 Sep 2019, 17:39
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Sep 2019, 17:43 I’m not entirely sure about the sporting justification for a bout between Quillin and Angulo. :o
They're both has beens trying to be relevant again. That's the sporting justification.
There is no justification. Angulo was a has been 5 years ago, and has gotten even worse since then. Quillin is still a credible B-level contender and his only loss in the last 5 years was to an elite fighter.
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jujigatame wrote: 21 Sep 2019, 01:08
gilgamesh wrote: 20 Sep 2019, 17:39

They're both has beens trying to be relevant again. That's the sporting justification.
There is no justification. Angulo was a has been 5 years ago, and has gotten even worse since then. Quillin is still a credible B-level contender and his only loss in the last 5 years was to an elite fighter.
He's fought 7 times in the last 5 years and won 4 fights. Peter is certainly the favorite but he is no contender.
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