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greg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:09

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:08

Ducker! (JK)

seriously, there's no way of knowing

Fair enough. I think you get my point though. BTW - Ali was stronger than he punched. Very strong man.

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:11

greg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:09

seriously, there's no way of knowing

Fair enough. I think you get my point though. BTW - Ali was stronger than he punched. Very strong man.

I guess I've done my bit of arguing for today..

Cent0089 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 15:48 Maybe Tim Bradley too ?

i was thinking about him too

greg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:14

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:11
Fair enough. I think you get my point though. BTW - Ali was stronger than he punched. Very strong man.

I guess I've done my bit of arguing for today..

And it was civil! Go figure!

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:17

greg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:14

I guess I've done my bit of arguing for today..

And it was civil! Go figure!

indeed

Kovalev.

Most of the HW division as for big guys with no explosiveness.

greg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 15:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 14:08 Vitali's punching power was way less than his strength. Mostly due to poor technique.

..don't know oogie if that's true...he had a very high KO ratio and many of those KOs were in the first couple of rounds..

Definitely true, ko% means nothing. He faced very poor opposition and was a huge man. Even his slappy arm punches had something behind them, just not a big puncher like his brother was.

Chisora is a very physical strong guy but not a big puncher.

Ward vs Kov was a match of each side of the example

Wlad could crack but would get pushed around if guys got inside

How are you guys gauging strength?

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 14:08 Vitali's punching power was way less than his strength. Mostly due to poor technique.

Delete that post, Oogyboogy, and I'll delete my quoting it here, OK? I don't like to see you embarrassing yourself like that.

Jennings is very strong but he's feather fisted.

Charles Shepherd looked like a bodybuilder but was a volume puncher with no power.

greg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:09

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:08

Ducker! (JK)

seriously, there's no way of knowing

Vitali was physically stronger; no doubt. Wlad hit harder (one shot). Vitali was the better all round boxer in complete terms.

Vitali’s injuries were a major factor in his reduction in power, he threw arm punches after the Byrd defeat. They were hard arm punches though.

Vitali was also kind of accurate with hes punches. He liked to throw lots directly to the chin. Same punches higher on the head would have less effect.

I would say that Wlad was the better boxer but Vitali was the better fighter

How do people feel about Pacmans strength?

I would say he has more punching power that Strength.

Tyson Fury is probably quite strong. Does not have much of punching power tho.

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:11

greg wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:09

seriously, there's no way of knowing

Fair enough. I think you get my point though. BTW - Ali was stronger than he punched. Very strong man.

Foreman said he was surprised just how big and physically strong Ali was when he fought him

Controversial wrote: ↑26 Aug 2019, 09:56

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 16:11
Fair enough. I think you get my point though. BTW - Ali was stronger than he punched. Very strong man.

Foreman said he was surprised just how big and physically strong Ali was when he fought him

Ali used his weight and size extremely effectively, he had good wrestling abilities which made it very tiring for his opponents in the clinch. He would pull them down and foreward, making it very difficult for them to get any leverage in their shots up close.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 14:16 Ward was very strong but relatively feather feasted.

Good shout there. I felt the same about Tim Bradley. Lesser fighter than Ward, but similar attributes in that sense.

Glen Johnson seemed to have a good ability to drive guys back when he wanted to, but wasn't the biggest puncher in the world.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Aug 2019, 13:03 Glen Johnson seemed to have a good ability to drive guys back when he wanted to, but wasn't the biggest puncher in the world.

Yeah he was like a little bull.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 15:48 Maybe Tim Bradley too ?

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 22:41

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2019, 14:08 Vitali's punching power was way less than his strength. Mostly due to poor technique.

Delete that post, Oogyboogy, and I'll delete my quoting it here, OK? I don't like to see you embarrassing yourself like that.

The truth is never an embarrassment.

Tyson Fury is a strong guy but doesn’t seem to punch his weight, could be more to do with not planting his feet

As you say, he doesn't really set his feet, plus he has quite loose punch technique. He doesn't ever really look to hurt his opponents certainly not since he stepped up his competition.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑26 Aug 2019, 14:29 As you say, he doesn't really set his feet, plus he has quite loose punch technique. He doesn't ever really look to hurt his opponents certainly not since he stepped up his competition.

Yes, when you see him pounding the heavy bag he obviously has power but he’s more about outpointing and making his opponent miss than trying to knock them out.