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Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:21
by gilgamesh
apollo creed wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 12:20
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 11:56 After seeing his brother lose what was supposed to be an easy one. Maybe never.

Even though his brother didn't actually deserve to lose. Which made it all the more surprising.
That would be sad and poor for boxing.
Not really. If you're too much of a coward to ever step up and challenge yourself. You were always too much of a coward to win that challenge upon taking it. That's the way I'd look at a fighter like that.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:22
by diddy
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 11:58
diddy wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 11:55

Guys get old overnight. We saw it with Quillin. There was nothing in the JLeon Love fight to suggest it would happen, but it happened. Charlo is in his prime.
I don't know that Quillin "got old overnight" against Angulo, he just had no answer whatsoever to his pressure, and other than backing away and jabbing had virtually nothing in his tank all fight.

It was a stunningly poor performance.
That was a fighter getting old 1000%. He was made to be unstable every time he was hit cleanly and forced into retreat mode. He was getting hurt by wide looping shots he shouldve seen coming a mile away. His body just wouldnt allow him to get out of the way of them, and once they connected made his legs give way, over and over. If Angulo had anything left as a fighter he wouldve easily gotten a stoppage but he's so far gone himself he could never land the killshot. I wont be surprised if Quillin never fights again.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:24
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 12:22
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 11:58

I don't know that Quillin "got old overnight" against Angulo, he just had no answer whatsoever to his pressure, and other than backing away and jabbing had virtually nothing in his tank all fight.

It was a stunningly poor performance.
That was a fighter getting old 1000%. He was made to be unstable every time he was hit cleanly and forced into retreat mode. He was getting hurt by wide looping shots he shouldve seen coming a mile away. His body just wouldnt allow him to get out of the way of them, and once they connected made his legs give way, over and over. If Angulo had anything left as a fighter he wouldve easily gotten a stoppage but he's so far gone himself he could never land the killshot. I wont be surprised if Quillin never fights again.
Yeah I wouldn't if I was him.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:28
by apollo creed
margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 11:57 At the top of their games Mall is the better brother. He did have a bad night vs Koro, but I believe he is getting lacklustre in part because of the uninspiring opposition. Happens to a lot of guys.
What? Mall was hyped as one of the most feared guys at 160, the next big thing at mw. He should've crushed guys like washed up Korobov and a stiff like Adams. Just hype.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:30
by diddy
Charlo vs Jacobs is the fight to make. Andrade is also fine.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:35
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 12:30 Charlo vs Jacobs is the fight to make. Andrade is also fine.
Yeah there's always a bit of intrigue to grudge matches, and Boxing fans still remember their slight confrontation from before.

Pretty sure Danny would still be seen as the solid favorite there because he's only lost really to the boys at the top, and he's never lost in anything short of a close, competitive fight...save for maybe Pirog, but the Danny that lost to Pirog ain't the Danny we see today.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:36
by apollo creed
Ok guys. Let's clear the things out. Is Jacobs still with PBC? He is on their site as a PBC fighter. Don't get it. If Jacobs signed with DAZN then why he is still on the PBC site?

I'd like to see Jacobs vs Mall. That would be an intriguing fight imo.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:37
by apollo creed
diddy wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 12:30 Charlo vs Jacobs is the fight to make. Andrade is also fine.
Yup.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:42
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 12:03
margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 12:00 Lol that Quillin lose was gold just for that thread :lol:
Reminded me of how certain I was that Arreola was gonna beat Stiverne's ass in the 1st fight.

When that failed I posted a gif of this as a mockery of myself.

It was appropriate again for how I talked about Quillin-Angulo

Image
I picked stiverne.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 12:43
by gilgamesh
I remember

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 05:24
by apollo creed
So is there a chance to see Jacobs vs Jermall since both are listed as PBC fighters?

https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/daniel-jacobs ?

https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/jermall-charlo

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 08:09
by Onetimeonly
They fight in different divisions and on different networks highly unlikely

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 10:11
by apollo creed
Onetimeonly wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 08:09 They fight in different divisions and on different networks highly unlikely
Jermall should move up if he can't get good fights. But maybe he is happy with what he gets.

Anyway I don't get it why Jacobs is still listed on PBC site as their fighter if he signed with DAZN?

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Dennis Hogan on December 7. WTF? When this guy is gonna step up?

Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 11:11
by Onetimeonly
apollo creed wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 10:11
Onetimeonly wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 08:09 They fight in different divisions and on different networks highly unlikely
Jermall should move up if he can't get good fights. But maybe he is happy with what he gets.

Anyway I don't get it why Jacobs is still listed on PBC site as their fighter if he signed with DAZN?
Al may still be managing him.