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Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 03:30
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 21:05
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 21:02

Sam Soliman, Tureano Johnson and Jack Culcay are all guys I've heard of, and watched fight.

Soliman had seen better days, but was a solid contender at one time. Johnson and Culcay are lower echelon fringe contenders now. I mean they're not huge wins, but wins like that are the reason why he's ranked...and I'm sure an extensive amateur background.
It's the only reason he's ranked. None are really notable and one's am background shouldn't be considered when being ranked in the pros, unless it's off the charts, like Loma. His close loss to Jacobs is his only "notable" performance. Doesn't mean he's a bad fighter, just replying to the poster.
Johnson was a ranked contender not long ago. Losing to Derevyanchenko is probably why he's not still.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 03:31
by gilgamesh
Perseus wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 00:12 A faded version of Sam Soliman meets the standard for notable win these days?

I guess I'm going to have to upgrade wins over Johnson and Culcay to awe inspiring.
Unlike Soliman they actually walked to the ring on two good legs when they faced Derev, so that's something noteworthy.
Soliman had name value, but little else. Johnson and Culcay are definitely his best 2 wins. The loss to Jacobs is a more meaningful performance than either of them, but he's a legit fringe contender at least based off of what he's done.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 03:58
by geronimo
Golovkin decision, close.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 04:47
by apollo creed
It all depends on how the age and the 'new style' will affect G.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 09:02
by sturm vogel
GGG wins by decision in 12. Derevyan is too mobile and skilled to get plugged.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 09:04
by dagilechia
Golovkin by mid/late KO after an entertaining fight or UD by 116-112, 117-111 type decision.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 09:40
by Thomastearns
apollo creed wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 04:47 It all depends on how the age and the 'new style' will affect G.
Yes, both questions will be answered shortly.

Is GGG really talented enough to assimilate a radical change of style this late in his career? In any case I'm glad he ditched Sanchez and his predictable style. The top guys are so close
that nuances could make all the difference.

Got to also say Derevyanchenko looks confident and in great shape too.

But then so does Golovkin.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 15:20
by boxing_rocks
Gennady ‘GGG’ Golovkin needed two attempts to make the 170-pound limit for the IBF second day weigh-in this morning for his fight tonight on DAZN against Sergiy ‘The Technician’ Derevyanchenko. Golovkin (39-1-1, 35 KOs) weighed in at 170.2 lbs on his first weigh-in try, and he then stripped down and made the weight at 170 lbs. For his part, Derevyanchenko successfully made weight.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 16:08
by 493dart
Perseus wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 19:07 GGG by wide decision or late stoppage. There will be a few competitive rounds but not a competitive fight.
Derev has exactly zero notable wins, did not look good in his last fight, will be 34-years-old in a few weeks, had 400+ amatuer bouts and 24 fights in the world series of boxing which should count on his professional record. That would put him at 36-2 and he would still have zero notable wins.
People worry about GGG's age but Derev isn't much younger and has a lot of boxing miles on his body too.

tHis.

this guy has fought no one ...and lost to Jacobs.

G will eliminate him in 5

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 16:08
by diddy
GGG +160 by DEC feels like damn good value to me. If he gets a stoppage it will be very late IMO.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 16:10
by diddy
493dart wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 16:08
Perseus wrote: 04 Oct 2019, 19:07 GGG by wide decision or late stoppage. There will be a few competitive rounds but not a competitive fight.
Derev has exactly zero notable wins, did not look good in his last fight, will be 34-years-old in a few weeks, had 400+ amatuer bouts and 24 fights in the world series of boxing which should count on his professional record. That would put him at 36-2 and he would still have zero notable wins.
People worry about GGG's age but Derev isn't much younger and has a lot of boxing miles on his body too.

tHis.

this guy has fought no one ...and lost to Jacobs.

G will eliminate him in 5
Weird post. I think GGG wins but to insinuate he will lose early because Derevy lost to Jacobs in a competitive fight is odd considering GGG was life and death with Jacobs. I’ve seen nothing from Derevy that suggests he gets run over here. He’s built like a tank and quite technical. GGG is just better. I expect a competitive fight.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 16:16
by victor-romeo
38 or 37 is well past a fighters prime an I believe that is GGG that age, still my gut feeling is GGG KO's Dervyanchenko within 6 rounds. but who knows, I will watch this fight with interest. I think GGG should retire at a certain time it is time to quit.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 16:32
by boxing_rocks
diddy wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 16:10
493dart wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 16:08


tHis.

this guy has fought no one ...and lost to Jacobs.

G will eliminate him in 5
Weird post. I think GGG wins but to insinuate he will lose early because Derevy lost to Jacobs in a competitive fight is odd considering GGG was life and death with Jacobs. I’ve seen nothing from Derevy that suggests he gets run over here. He’s built like a tank and quite technical. GGG is just better. I expect a competitive fight.
There was no life and death in GGG vs Jacobs. Golovkin himself says that it was an easy fight. He dropped Jacobs early and was assuming that he will finish him sooner or later, but Danny lasted the distance. The problem is that Golovkin is 2.5 years older now and had two hard fights against Canelo.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 17:07
by diddy
boxing_rocks wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 16:32
diddy wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 16:10

Weird post. I think GGG wins but to insinuate he will lose early because Derevy lost to Jacobs in a competitive fight is odd considering GGG was life and death with Jacobs. I’ve seen nothing from Derevy that suggests he gets run over here. He’s built like a tank and quite technical. GGG is just better. I expect a competitive fight.
There was no life and death in GGG vs Jacobs. Golovkin himself says that it was an easy fight. He dropped Jacobs early and was assuming that he will finish him sooner or later, but Danny lasted the distance. The problem is that Golovkin is 2.5 years older now and had two hard fights against Canelo.
Easy fight?! Bro did you watch that fight? It was VERY close. And GGG is older now as you said. I had GGG-Jacobs 6 rds apiece. The knockdown won it.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 17:09
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 17:07
boxing_rocks wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 16:32
There was no life and death in GGG vs Jacobs. Golovkin himself says that it was an easy fight. He dropped Jacobs early and was assuming that he will finish him sooner or later, but Danny lasted the distance. The problem is that Golovkin is 2.5 years older now and had two hard fights against Canelo.
Easy fight?! Bro did you watch that fight? It was VERY close. And GGG is older now as you said. I had GGG-Jacobs 6 rds apiece. The knockdown won it.
Jacobs ain't an easy fight for anybody.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 17:26
by dagilechia
Golovkin-Jacobs was closer than GGG-Canelo I, imo.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 17:27
by gilgamesh
dagilechia wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 17:26 Golovkin-Jacobs was closer than GGG-Canelo I, imo.
Yeah I agree with that

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 17:35
by greg
I'll start appreciating Jacobs' qualities as a boxer once he stops playing games with his weight and moves up to Super MW or probably higher weight class where he belongs..

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 18:47
by boxing_rocks
diddy wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 17:07
boxing_rocks wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 16:32
There was no life and death in GGG vs Jacobs. Golovkin himself says that it was an easy fight. He dropped Jacobs early and was assuming that he will finish him sooner or later, but Danny lasted the distance. The problem is that Golovkin is 2.5 years older now and had two hard fights against Canelo.
Easy fight?! Bro did you watch that fight? It was VERY close. And GGG is older now as you said. I had GGG-Jacobs 6 rds apiece. The knockdown won it.
"Easy fight" came from Golovkin himself. Maybe he never used high gear. Having stopped his 20+ previous opponents, he was just rolling. ... and I had him winning 7-8 rounds.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 22:56
by tiny_acres
boxing_rocks wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 18:47
diddy wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 17:07

Easy fight?! Bro did you watch that fight? It was VERY close. And GGG is older now as you said. I had GGG-Jacobs 6 rds apiece. The knockdown won it.
"Easy fight" came from Golovkin himself. Maybe he never used high gear. Having stopped his 20+ previous opponents, he was just rolling. ... and I had him winning 7-8 rounds.
I had it 7-5 GGG
Good fight

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 23:12
by Neil Gee
Derevyanchenko cut

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 06 Oct 2019, 00:53
by ralph-nyc
Derevyanchenko won 9-3.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 06 Oct 2019, 01:47
by lazboy
I’d like to see this rematch more than a Canelo rematch.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 06 Oct 2019, 07:58
by DrDuke
I predicted a close win for GGG and it seems, I was right. However, objectively Golovkin even lost. He started good, but then he was having only separate moments. Derev started slow, but then began outfighting Golovkin. I had it 116-111 for Derev.

Re: Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko ?

Posted: 06 Oct 2019, 17:27
by oogiebe
The fact that the judges agreed on only four rounds tells the story.