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sturm vogel wrote: ↑27 Oct 2019, 21:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Oct 2019, 16:18
Thanks. The kid's been boxing since he was 8 years old. He'll turn 20 soon, so really he's only 19. the USA hasn't had a true young HW with good amateur pedigree in forever.

What??? He was only 18-4 as an amateur. That's the equivalent to nothing. There is not much time to learn in the pros, and he has hardly learned much in those few contests. He most certainly will finish as a flop. I'll give him this: he has a fresh chin for which the pros can bang on. Good luck, he's going to need plenty of it.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 04:28 Beautiful jab, fights with a low guard, a little bit square on for my liking, but that jab alone is going to win him many fights, don't see too many fighters utilize the jab like that any more, that was more a straight left than a flicking jab, a lot of power in the shot. Looks to have decent hand speed too, nice work downstairs.

Need to see him in a bit more of a test.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 14:17

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 04:28 Beautiful jab, fights with a low guard, a little bit square on for my liking, but that jab alone is going to win him many fights, don't see too many fighters utilize the jab like that any more, that was more a straight left than a flicking jab, a lot of power in the shot. Looks to have decent hand speed too, nice work downstairs.

Need to see him in a bit more of a test.

Lol, just a 'bit' more of a test? The guy was a total heavybag, typcial pro debut trash can. A reflex bag would've given JA more issues.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 04:28 Beautiful jab, fights with a low guard, a little bit square on for my liking, but that jab alone is going to win him many fights, don't see too many fighters utilize the jab like that any more, that was more a straight left than a flicking jab, a lot of power in the shot. Looks to have decent hand speed too, nice work downstairs.

Need to see him in a bit more of a test.

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 14:15

sturm vogel wrote: ↑27 Oct 2019, 21:22


What??? He was only 18-4 as an amateur. That's the equivalent to nothing. There is not much time to learn in the pros, and he has hardly learned much in those few contests. He most certainly will finish as a flop. I'll give him this: he has a fresh chin for which the pros can bang on. Good luck, he's going to need plenty of it.

Oops. Someone has their facts screwed up. (again).

stevekrazy wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 02:19

sturm vogel wrote: ↑27 Oct 2019, 21:22


What??? He was only 18-4 as an amateur. That's the equivalent to nothing. There is not much time to learn in the pros, and he has hardly learned much in those few contests. He most certainly will finish as a flop. I'll give him this: he has a fresh chin for which the pros can bang on. Good luck, he's going to need plenty of it.

Boxrec only noted some of the major National & International competitions from the last 5-6 years or so, that’s a mere fraction of his overall experience, Boxrec only has 10 of my 60, 70 plus amateur fights on my profile

sturm vogel wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:12

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 14:15
Oops. Someone has their facts screwed up. (again).

Boxrec statistics. "Oops" is something the rainbow boys say and write (again).

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:35 Can we tell just by watching a guy on the bag in the gym if he's got a beautiful jab

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:40

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:35 Can we tell just by watching a guy on the bag in the gym if he's got a beautiful jab

We get it. You're not impressed. Don't follow the guy. Why must you go on and on when other posters are sharing their opinions. Geez, sometimes you are like an annoying grade school lass.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:42

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:40
We get it. You're not impressed. Don't follow the guy. Why must you go on and on when other posters are sharing their opinions. Geez, sometimes you are like an annoying grade school lass.

Honest question. You yourself posted recently about other fighter that you can only tell so much when the opposition is a certain level.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:44 How does any boxer, who has accomplished nothing as an amateur, be regarded as anything after one (1) professional fight?

By the way, a prospect is something within one eye's view, and, in that sight, we may express that nearly all, if not all, posters here cannot see this Jared Anderson .

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:49

sturm vogel wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:44 How does any boxer, who has accomplished nothing as an amateur, be regarded as anything after one (1) professional fight?

By the way, a prospect is something within one eye's view, and, in that sight, we may express that nearly all, if not all, posters here cannot see this Jared Anderson .

Go look beyond BoxRec and see what the kid's done in the last 4/5 years.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 21:05

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:49
Go look beyond BoxRec and see what the kid's done in the last 4/5 years.

In the amateurs only International accomplishments are worthy of much praise. Jared's international accomplishment: 2015 Junior World Championships - 5th.

I have watched some videos of him. If he truly has been boxing since he was 8, he has learned to be flat footed and square up to his opponents. Great apprenticeship. Most certainly will not be a heavyweight sensation. Mark that!

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 21:07

sturm vogel wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 21:05

In the amateurs only International accomplishments are worthy of much praise. Jared's international accomplishment: 2015 Junior World Championships - 5th.

I have watched some videos of him. If he truly has been boxing since he was 8, he has learned to be flat footed and square up to his opponents. Great apprenticeship. Most certainly will not be a heavyweight sensation. Mark that!

putz.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:15

stevekrazy wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 02:19

Boxrec only noted some of the major National & International competitions from the last 5-6 years or so, that’s a mere fraction of his overall experience, Boxrec only has 10 of my 60, 70 plus amateur fights on my profile

Oh well. When I quote boxrec records I don't search their veracity.

Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Oct 2019, 23:46The talent pool of young US heavyweight prospects is very shallow. I think Jared has a lot more promise than 7-0 Roney Hines. The scrub Infante in the video above that Jared just stopped in a minute lasted 4 rounds when he lost a 4-round UD to Hines in May of this year.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:42

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:40
We get it. You're not impressed. Don't follow the guy. Why must you go on and on when other posters are sharing their opinions. Geez, sometimes you are like an annoying grade school lass.

Honest question. You yourself posted recently about other fighter that you can only tell so much when the opposition is a certain level.

Best Coast wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 00:26

sturm vogel wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019, 20:15

Oh well. When I quote boxrec records I don't search their veracity.

Sturm, it seems like searching for veracity is not one of your strong points. It's easy to bash a young prospect like Anderson & I respect/admire Oogie for coming up with threads about prospects like him. Naysayers/skeptics like you can pontificate all day about how Anderson will be a bust and make no impact in the pro ranks but the fact is that only time & experience will tell how his career will play out. He's got promise & several other commenters have already given him some credit.

You would be better served to find some HW prospects of similar experience level & tell us how you think they compare to Jared Anderson. I already did something like that by pointing out that the same scrub that Anderson demolished in 54 seconds lasted 4 rounds in losing a decision to 7-0 Roney Hines. By comparison, Jared's demolition doesnt look too bad/

Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Oct 2019, 23:46The talent pool of young US heavyweight prospects is very shallow. I think Jared has a lot more promise than 7-0 Roney Hines. The scrub Infante in the video above that Jared just stopped in a minute lasted 4 rounds when he lost a 4-round UD to Hines in May of this year.

As for Stevekrazy, what he says is definitely true about BoxRec's incomplete database of amateur fights. The folks there have done a good job of adding amateur records to the mix, but there are still lots of fights missing so far.