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KiwiRider wrote: ↑25 Nov 2019, 13:56

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Nov 2019, 20:41 Where's Dag?? Hasn't been here in a couple of weeks it seems. We need a vote on Ortiz and Wilder no?

Think he copped a ban for his posts in politics, race, religion.
Which should be the place where it is harder to cop a ban. But anyway.
We need him here. He should have just been banned from the OT, as his posts in CS are fine.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Nov 2019, 15:01 I would vote Wilder to 1

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Nov 2019, 15:01 I would vote Wilder to 1

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Nov 2019, 15:52 Some call me a Wilder hater and say that I'll never give him any credit, and then yet I'm too generous to him

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Nov 2019, 16:00

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Nov 2019, 15:52 Some call me a Wilder hater and say that I'll never give him any credit, and then yet I'm too generous to him

You just can't win. I'd put him at number one now. But if Ruiz beats AJ again, I'll put Ruiz back on top based on beating AJ two times. I think AJ is better than Ortiz. (hmmm...that would be a good matchup).

KiwiRider wrote: ↑25 Nov 2019, 16:19 Is this the same Ortiz who's best win came against Jennings almost 4 years ago, when he was 36(ish) and was eventually dropped off the books at Matchroom for poor performance, and was deemed unsuitable for AJ because of it?
Sure Ortiz came in better this time for Wilder, and I think we all knew he was the one to make adjustments the second time around, but he is old and quite slow. Hence I don't think he will do that well against most of the top ten guys. Just because Wilder makes him look good, doesn't mean he actually is. Think back over his other fights, all the guys he has beaten, would likely get beaten by most of the current top ten.
Ortiz against AJ? I doubt he would put on a better showing than Takem, and that was a little hard to watch in places.