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boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:21

Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:03 Alvarez really should collect a belt at 168 before he gains too much weight and permanently moves to 175. So I mean, fighting BJS or another SMW titlist right now would make sense.

That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 19:31

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:21
That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

Doesn't matter in the context of the trivial question: "How many weight divisions has Alvarez held a belt in?" Also related: Pacquiao should've made a pit stop at 140 to collect a belt there.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 20:57

Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 19:31
Doesn't matter in the context of the trivial question: "How many weight divisions has Alvarez held a belt in?" Also related: Pacquiao should've made a pit stop at 140 to collect a belt there.

He had Fielding's trinket.

Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 19:31

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:21
That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

Doesn't matter in the context of the trivial question: "How many weight divisions has Alvarez held a belt in?" Also related: Pacquiao should've made a pit stop at 140 to collect a belt there.

bigjack wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 16:24

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:56

You don't know the inside discussions between the parties involved and how serious they were. So stop speculating based on some very subjective videos. Bottom line is GGG, Canelo and Jacobs fought each other showing their will to fight the best meanwhile Saunders was playing safe to keep his 0 intact for the time he would want to cash in. He fought a bunch of stiffs after Lemieux.

x2 good post

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 17:25 X3

... And yeah, video posted by EO troll don't count.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 17:27

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:56

You don't know the inside discussions between the parties involved and how serious they were.

Tom Loeffler and Fräñk Wärrën do... or does their opinions (captured on video) not count?

You’re pretending that you’ve not seen them, but we’ve discussed this topic multiple times on numerous threads. And you’ve even commented on some of the videos I posted.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 17:29

KiwiRider wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:37
That is possible. I still stand by my statement. Canelo has built his fan base by being entertaining. His Mexican or Mexamerican fans are probably not the right audience for a BJS fight. Canelo has dropped belts in the past. It's more about the business and $$$ than the plaudits. So it makes good business sense to avoid BJS. Keep his fans on side. Let's face it, he can cherry pick anyone from MW to LHW and put on a show. He does not need to piss off his fans for whatever BJS brings.

Agree. And the same applies to Andrade. Snooze fest performances don't get you Canelo fight.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:21

Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:03 Alvarez really should collect a belt at 168 before he gains too much weight and permanently moves to 175. So I mean, fighting BJS or another SMW titlist right now would make sense.

That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 20:49

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:21
That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

What do you think about GGG’s title winning efforts to capture the WBA regular, WBA super and WBC world championships?

Apart from the IBF strap gained during the David Lemieux bout, what belts has GGG captured inside the ring against champions that actually held a legitimate version of a world middleweight championship at the time of their fight?

Lairdy wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:57 I don't think there's anyone at M or SMW that'd beat a fit and focused BJS.

All the tall poppies on here trashing BJS with the usual garbage about not fighting "top opponents" and the like. Eubank Jnr, Ryder, Munroe Jnr, Lemieux, Lee. All quality opponents. If Canelo was to fight the same BJS that made Lemieux look like a novice, he wouldn't get a glove on him!

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:30

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 20:49
What do you think about GGG’s title winning efforts to capture the WBA regular, WBA super and WBC world championships?

Apart from the IBF strap gained during the David Lemieux bout, what belts has GGG captured inside the ring against champions that actually held a legitimate version of a world middleweight championship at the time of their fight?

Canelo gave up/vacated his mw WBC title to not fight GGG when G was still strong and very dangerous as everybody knows very well that.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 12:04 If you arent fighting boring Andrade you are fighting saunders

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 12:28

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 12:04 If you arent fighting boring Andrade you are fighting saunders

I don't know why they don't fight each other?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 12:01

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:30

Canelo gave up/vacated his mw WBC title to not fight GGG when G was still strong and very dangerous as everybody knows very well that.

Have you forgotten the circumstances surrounding Canelo being forced to vacate his WBC title and the resulting feud that ensued between both parties?

Do you need reminding or are you going to come clean and be honest?

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 06:41

Lairdy wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:57 I don't think there's anyone at M or SMW that'd beat a fit and focused BJS.

All the tall poppies on here trashing BJS with the usual garbage about not fighting "top opponents" and the like. Eubank Jnr, Ryder, Munroe Jnr, Lemieux, Lee. All quality opponents. If Canelo was to fight the same BJS that made Lemieux look like a novice, he wouldn't get a glove on him!

The thing is Billy ain't fit and focused nowadays as he used to be, especially if he can't use anymore his favorite nasal spray. Now he's coasting through 'bums' hoping he'd land a big fight vs Canelo. Since the Lemieux fight, BJS didn't show no will to step up to even better opponents. Also he was caught testing positive for oxilofrine.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oxilofrine (also known as methylsynephrine, hydroxyephrine, oxyephrine, and 4-HMP) is a stimulant drug[1] and is an amphetamine chemically related to ephedrine and to synephrine.

Oxilofrine is currently a World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) prohibited substance when used in competition.[2] It has been found as an adulterant in some dietary supplements.[3][4] Even after receiving warning letters from the FDA,[5] some sports and weight loss supplement companies continue to use oxilofrine as an undeclared ingredient in their products despite it being prohibited.[6]

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 15:40

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 12:01
Have you forgotten the circumstances surrounding Canelo being forced to vacate his WBC title and the resulting feud that ensued between both parties?

Do you need reminding or are you going to come clean and be honest?

Tell us all about it EO

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 19:47

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 15:40

Tell us all about it EO

Let me know what your thoughts are about the situation? I just want to make sure you’re not wasting my time and you’ve shown enough initiative to research the subject matter yourself.

It ain’t difficult.