Posted: 20 Dec 2004, 12:01
also with Markus Beyer for a fight in Summer (if he would beat Green)KOJOE90 wrote:I've also heard Tito's name linked with Tarvers!
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Posted: 20 Dec 2004, 12:56
I read the News of the World column too and Frank does say King approached him in Vegas and said he wants Calzaghe to fight Tito.
Sounds crazy but maybe the angle is based around a Hopkins rematch. Hopkins holds all the 160 belts, in any given matchup at 160 HE calls the shots, everyone is now a challenger and there are no bargaining chips left to pick up. Tito goes up to 168, picks up a belt and is pushed by King as the real (& 4 weight) champ there. Now the Hopkins/Tito rematch would be at 168, where King and Tito would hold the cards. Hopkins would have made his 20 D's, can dump the MW belts and sign out with another megafight for a bucketload of cash and the chance to become a 2-weight champ...
Sounds crazy but maybe the angle is based around a Hopkins rematch. Hopkins holds all the 160 belts, in any given matchup at 160 HE calls the shots, everyone is now a challenger and there are no bargaining chips left to pick up. Tito goes up to 168, picks up a belt and is pushed by King as the real (& 4 weight) champ there. Now the Hopkins/Tito rematch would be at 168, where King and Tito would hold the cards. Hopkins would have made his 20 D's, can dump the MW belts and sign out with another megafight for a bucketload of cash and the chance to become a 2-weight champ...
Posted: 20 Dec 2004, 12:57
I don't think it's a question of Tito being able to beat him...in that case the list of potential candidates would be a mile long.knockout artist wrote:Because Tito will beat him.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Why on earth would Tito want to fight Calzaghe?
One of the most incredible (in its literal sense) rumours this year.
Tito is a far better fighter than Calzaghe. Calzaghe being bigger will keep him in the fight, but Tito will walk away with the decision.
What I mean is - why fight Calzaghe when there are many more lucrative fights out there?
Posted: 20 Dec 2004, 13:42
I see what you mean.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I don't think it's a question of Tito being able to beat him...in that case the list of potential candidates would be a mile long.knockout artist wrote:Because Tito will beat him.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Why on earth would Tito want to fight Calzaghe?
One of the most incredible (in its literal sense) rumours this year.
Tito is a far better fighter than Calzaghe. Calzaghe being bigger will keep him in the fight, but Tito will walk away with the decision.
What I mean is - why fight Calzaghe when there are many more lucrative fights out there?
I wonder if Don was just kidding Frank along.
How many fights has Warren announced in the past 2 years that have failed to materialise?
Maybe we should have a Christmas sweepstake.
Posted: 20 Dec 2004, 15:21
i still can't believe that tito, a blown up welterweight, knocked william joppy into next week. i seriously doubt calzaghe could have done that, and calzaghe is a naturally much bigger guy.
its obvious but tito really is a hell of a puncher to carry that power up so far. to put and keep down a tough, world class middleweight with heart, that says to me that calzaghe could get the same treatment.
i actually think calzaghe would probably stop tito, but he wouldn't prove a thing if he did.
its obvious but tito really is a hell of a puncher to carry that power up so far. to put and keep down a tough, world class middleweight with heart, that says to me that calzaghe could get the same treatment.
i actually think calzaghe would probably stop tito, but he wouldn't prove a thing if he did.
Posted: 20 Dec 2004, 17:06
Tito is one of my favourite fighters, when he has finally retired possibly one of my all-time favourites. Fearless, never avoided an opponent and in fact actively sought them out, fights in a very simple style but does it with such venomous accuracy that it's almost unstoppable (unless you're Bernard Hopkins).
I would hate to see him concede all the advantages and give the likes of Joe Calzaghe an opportunity to get his name on their ledger. Calzaghe would have all the physical advantages, I just wouldn't want to see it, Joe isn't fit to sniff Trinidad's jockstrap.
If it were to happen it would deliver one rare occurance: Me screaming my head off for a foreign fighter to beat a Brit....
I would hate to see him concede all the advantages and give the likes of Joe Calzaghe an opportunity to get his name on their ledger. Calzaghe would have all the physical advantages, I just wouldn't want to see it, Joe isn't fit to sniff Trinidad's jockstrap.
If it were to happen it would deliver one rare occurance: Me screaming my head off for a foreign fighter to beat a Brit....
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 01:52
Tito is one of my favourite fighters too, the guy is a true warrior!Goz wrote:Tito is one of my favourite fighters, when he has finally retired possibly one of my all-time favourites. Fearless, never avoided an opponent and in fact actively sought them out, fights in a very simple style but does it with such venomous accuracy that it's almost unstoppable (unless you're Bernard Hopkins).
I would hate to see him concede all the advantages and give the likes of Joe Calzaghe an opportunity to get his name on their ledger. Calzaghe would have all the physical advantages, I just wouldn't want to see it, Joe isn't fit to sniff Trinidad's jockstrap.
If it were to happen it would deliver one rare occurance: Me screaming my head off for a foreign fighter to beat a Brit....
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 09:09
BBC teletext last night reported that allegedly is confident he can secure Glengoffe Johnson for Joe. ( 
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If it happens or not, it's typical of Warren to let Johnson do ALL the hard work in a very unprotected career and then slot Calzaghe in the backdoor having boxed a string of no-hopers and doing next to nothing to deserve a shot at the undisputed Light heavyweight king.
)If it happens or not, it's typical of Warren to let Johnson do ALL the hard work in a very unprotected career and then slot Calzaghe in the backdoor having boxed a string of no-hopers and doing next to nothing to deserve a shot at the undisputed Light heavyweight king.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 09:13
Doesn't sound like the Johnson fight will happen anytime soon -
Fightnews.com -
Light heavyweight ruler Glen Johnson should have no trouble lining up a big money fight. Promoter allegedly would like to match WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe with Johnson sometime in 2005. Calzaghe currently has a fight set for February 11 against Scott Pemberton or interim champ Mario Veit. Universum has not one but three fighters clamoring for a shot at Johnson. They are unbeaten current WBO light heavyweight champion Zsolt Erdei (who currently has no fights scheduled), former WBO champion Dariusz Michalczewski (who challenges WBA champ Fabrice Tiozzo on February 26) and European light heavy champ Thomas Ulrich, who suffered his only loss against Johnson. In any event, Johnson will likely have to get past Antonio Tarver again before taking those fights, as Tarver apparently plans to invoke a rematch clause.
Veit?....again?? What a nightmare, talk about hard sell. Has there EVER been a rematch where the challenger previously lost in one round?
Fightnews.com -
Light heavyweight ruler Glen Johnson should have no trouble lining up a big money fight. Promoter allegedly would like to match WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe with Johnson sometime in 2005. Calzaghe currently has a fight set for February 11 against Scott Pemberton or interim champ Mario Veit. Universum has not one but three fighters clamoring for a shot at Johnson. They are unbeaten current WBO light heavyweight champion Zsolt Erdei (who currently has no fights scheduled), former WBO champion Dariusz Michalczewski (who challenges WBA champ Fabrice Tiozzo on February 26) and European light heavy champ Thomas Ulrich, who suffered his only loss against Johnson. In any event, Johnson will likely have to get past Antonio Tarver again before taking those fights, as Tarver apparently plans to invoke a rematch clause.
Veit?....again?? What a nightmare, talk about hard sell. Has there EVER been a rematch where the challenger previously lost in one round?
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 09:23
lots probably, liston vs pattersonMightyWarrior wrote:
Veit?....again?? What a nightmare, talk about hard sell. Has there EVER been a rematch where the challenger previously lost in one round?
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 09:24
i would imagine Dariusz Michalczewski camp would offer johnson more money than calzaghe camp.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 09:28
That's the weird world of Boxing it seems...Scott Pemberton beat Omar Sheika twice and who gets the shot against Jeff Lacy?! Sheika
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 11:33
Sorry but I'd still pick Tito to beat Calzaghe despite the size difference. (not that the fight will ever happen)
We're talking about a guy (Tito) at the top of his game who has fought the best around for about a decade against a guy who has been pretty much fighting nobodies or has beens in his backyard over the same period.
We're talking about a guy (Tito) at the top of his game who has fought the best around for about a decade against a guy who has been pretty much fighting nobodies or has beens in his backyard over the same period.